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viperfdl: I don't think I ever met any autistic person so I don't have any opinion about them.
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TARFU: You have to meet someone in order to have an opinion about them? Is that a personal stance of yours or do you think others should be that way also? For instance, I've never met Alexander The Great, but I have an opinion about him.
It simply means that I do not know enough about autism or people suffering it to form an opinion.
Just a quick skim of the thread and I am pleasantly surprised to see that this hasn’t yet devolved into a crazy flame war about vaccines being bad for you like these conversations tend to become on most forums.
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Wolfy777: What does "HCI" stand for?

And as someone that's capable of drilling into people for hours over a tiny piece of information that I just can't seem to piece together, I can see how it can be taxing. XD

Still, if I didn't have the right people to talk me through countless confusing moments, I imagine it'd be Hell for me to adjust.

I'm sure they appreciated your help all the same.

Since you meantioned findings, may I ask what were you researching?

P.S. A big thank you for sticking to the rules. :)
HCI stands for "Human Computer Interaction". As a very incomplete overview, It's basically the field of study relating to how people interact with computers. It involves investigating the computer side of stuff- user interfaces, input controllers (mouse, keyboard, touchscreens, voice, motion controllers, etc.), outputs (screens, voice output, how robots react to input); as well as the human side of things- human psychology and how they react to certain stimuli, what motivates them to complete some task, what motivates them to learn, etc.

My work involved setting up a framework that could help people with social learning (what it mean when a person does a specific thing, how to respond to specific situations, etc.), and my use-case was children with autism. My research, therefore, was how children with autism would benefit from such a system.
The results were largely inconclusive, and considering the difficulty relating to having autistic kids use such a system at all, kinda tended towards it not being helpful.

In retrospect, although I learnt a lot about ASDs, and began to suspect I may have some, I kinda wish I hadn't been taken in by my professor's zeal to work in social development :P.
Interesting Topic. Thank you for that. I'll read the whole thread once I have more free time.

For now, I can share my experience. My nephew is 3 years old and he is my whole world. He seemed to be obsessed with the order of items and some objects and loved staring washing machine for "hours". After a few talks with my sister, I decided to search for it and bought a book and read online articles.

I can't remember everything but it gave me the conclusion that he is not autistic. Autism is not directly about intelligence (some autistic people can a lot smarter than the common folk) and it has a very wide spectrum as you mentioned. It is sometimes not even recognizable until very old phases of life as in yours.

From what I remember, autistic people usually;
* Can't look at you in the eye when talking or listening. Especially talking.
* They can form a special connection and focus on certain items.
* They love doing the same thing over and over again. God how many times my nephew killed my back because we played the same game repeatedly for 8-9 hours. :))

As you can see, we ALL have and do those things so I do not see autistics any different than who are not. Just slightly different which is a good thing.
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Sachys: Have you ever tried to defend yourself against a gang of people all trying to kick your head in?
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Wolfy777: I hope I answered the question, though I'm not sure how "internal" that was. :)
Thank you for the responses. Very interesting. And don't worry about the spelling.
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firstpastthepost: Just a quick skim of the thread and I am pleasantly surprised to see that this hasn’t yet devolved into a crazy flame war about vaccines being bad for you like these conversations tend to become on most forums.
Because we're not allowed to. God forbid anyone talk about anything on this forum except demanding refunds or a Linux release for every single game ever made.

Now stay silent and get in line for your flu shot, pleb.
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firstpastthepost: Just a quick skim of the thread and I am pleasantly surprised to see that this hasn’t yet devolved into a crazy flame war about vaccines being bad for you like these conversations tend to become on most forums.
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Emob78: Because we're not allowed to. God forbid anyone talk about anything on this forum except demanding refunds or a Linux release for every single game ever made.

Now stay silent and get in line for your flu shot, pleb.
Should be a human right to receive a linux port of all games
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Wolfy777: What does "HCI" stand for?

And as someone that's capable of drilling into people for hours over a tiny piece of information that I just can't seem to piece together, I can see how it can be taxing. XD

Still, if I didn't have the right people to talk me through countless confusing moments, I imagine it'd be Hell for me to adjust.

I'm sure they appreciated your help all the same.

Since you meantioned findings, may I ask what were you researching?

P.S. A big thank you for sticking to the rules. :)
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babark: HCI stands for "Human Computer Interaction". As a very incomplete overview, It's basically the field of study relating to how people interact with computers. It involves investigating the computer side of stuff- user interfaces, input controllers (mouse, keyboard, touchscreens, voice, motion controllers, etc.), outputs (screens, voice output, how robots react to input); as well as the human side of things- human psychology and how they react to certain stimuli, what motivates them to complete some task, what motivates them to learn, etc.

My work involved setting up a framework that could help people with social learning (what it mean when a person does a specific thing, how to respond to specific situations, etc.), and my use-case was children with autism. My research, therefore, was how children with autism would benefit from such a system.
The results were largely inconclusive, and considering the difficulty relating to having autistic kids use such a system at all, kinda tended towards it not being helpful.

In retrospect, although I learnt a lot about ASDs, and began to suspect I may have some, I kinda wish I hadn't been taken in by my professor's zeal to work in social development :P.
I was close to guessing what the abriviation stood for, but not the larger context.

Thank you for a detailed reply. :)
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Wolfy777: Aplogiese in advance for extra bad spelling
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Telika: Oh. We've known worse.
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Wolfy777: I hope I answered the question, though I'm not sure how "internal" that was. :)
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AB2012: Thank you for the responses. Very interesting. And don't worry about the spelling.
Thanks; among my professors my spelling is a bit notorious as a long standing problem, though I'm improving. XD

I've thought of a comparison that might be closer to what you, AB2012, originally asked for even though it's quite literal.

Imagine being at a party sitting at the table closest to the speaker, obviously it's set way too loud.
I guess overload might be close to the unplesant sensation of the loud music pounding in your head and hitting on/revibrating on your whole body at the same time.

P.S. I've finally figured out how to reply to multiple people at the same time, yay. XD
Post edited September 27, 2018 by Wolfy777
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firstpastthepost: <snip>
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firstpastthepost: Just a quick skim of the thread and I am pleasantly surprised to see that this hasn’t yet devolved into a crazy flame war about vaccines being bad for you like these conversations tend to become on most forums.
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Emob78: Because we're not allowed to. God forbid anyone talk about anything on this forum except demanding refunds or a Linux release for every single game ever made.

Now stay silent and get in line for your flu shot, pleb.
While disscussing if vaccination in general is good or bad is off topic, I don't mind if anyone wants to talk about it in connection to autism.

Though according to the many articles I've read there's no connection betweeen vaccines and autism.
As a matter of fact, there is no definite answer to what causes it.
I have a few autistic friends, some I get along better with then others.
my nephew is autistic.

thats about my experience with autism so far.
My partner is on the spectrum. I have mental issues of my own.

Moving in with him and dealing with his quirks has forced me to change my unfavorable behaviors, or risk losing everything I wanted and worked hard for. He has admitted to me that since we've been together and grown, he has never felt more free and unafraid to be himself in his life. It has also forced him to be more aware of mental health issues and extend more sympathy to those suffering mental illness.

It has been quite the journey so far, and I'm grateful for it.
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One thing that I've read is that, apparently, autism symptoms are different in boys than in girls, which leads to girls not being disgnosted as often as boys. (Apparently, autistic girls are better at pretending to be neurotypical than autistic boys, plus there's the fact that autism isn't as well studied in girls as it is in boys.)

Of course, knowing me, there is, perhaps, a question that I could ask: How do autism symptoms manifest in transgender autistic people, or in non-binary autistic people? (Do they show autistic traits more like their anatomical (or hormonal) sex, or more like their identified gender, or is the actual answer far more compicated?)

(There's also the possibility that a cisgender autistic person's symptoms might not match what one might expect of thier gender; it's pretty clear that autism is not a simple subject.)
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Engerek01: Interesting Topic. Thank you for that. I'll read the whole thread once I have more free time.

For now, I can share my experience. My nephew is 3 years old and he is my whole world. He seemed to be obsessed with the order of items and some objects and loved staring washing machine for "hours". After a few talks with my sister, I decided to search for it and bought a book and read online articles.

I can't remember everything but it gave me the conclusion that he is not autistic. Autism is not directly about intelligence (some autistic people can a lot smarter than the common folk) and it has a very wide spectrum as you mentioned. It is sometimes not even recognizable until very old phases of life as in yours.

From what I remember, autistic people usually;
* Can't look at you in the eye when talking or listening. Especially talking.
* They can form a special connection and focus on certain items.
* They love doing the same thing over and over again. God how many times my nephew killed my back because we played the same game repeatedly for 8-9 hours. :))

As you can see, we ALL have and do those things so I do not see autistics any different than who are not. Just slightly different which is a good thing.
Why do I have a slight notion that possibly all the "you"s in here mean me? Do correct me if I'm wrong.

And you're welcome and thank you for sharing.

I'm not trying to discredit your own research or suggest anything, but given that autism or at least Asperger's is often described as a hidden condition, I'd still seek a professional opinion to be sure - just a suggestion.

Let's see if I can shed some more light on those bullet points.

"From what I remember, autistic people usually;
* Can't look at you in the eye when talking or listening. Especially talking."

It depends on the individual a lot.

I have Asperger's so I may not be a "prototypical example", but I sometimes think I may stare at people a bit too much, maybe even more, when I'm just observing them and not while having a conversation (e.g. someone sitting across the hall).

At the same time I tend to try to find a point to focus on - usually a spot on the wall, but never the person I'm talking to - when I'm intensely searching for/trying to remember some key piece of information that's eluding me in that moment.


"* They can form a special connection and focus on certain items."

Absolutely.
My soft toys have their own pillow and those that can't fit on my bed occupy multiple shelves (and that's a whole zoo XD ).
Or how I panic if certain items aren't where they usually are (e.g. small, but important items such as my keys, student card and wallet must be in a specific pocket in my backpack at all times as soon as I'm done using them).

Also, interests tend to be very focused.

At some point, I probably read everything there was about wolves. ;)

Or someone might want to know everything about a specific breed of shark but has no interest whatsoever in usual fish.


"* They love doing the same thing over and over again. God how many times my nephew killed my back because we played the same game repeatedly for 8-9 hours. :))"

I'm capable of listening to the exact same song or a small set of them for hours on end. XD

Allow me to expand this point.

Routine is comforting.
As is being told of changes ahead of time so you can have time to adjust.

E.g. If someone moved furniture to clean it, I'd feel restless and unsettled if it wasn't put back to the original place.

I've also come across an article that described a small child almost having a panic attack just because he was taken to school via a different route that the usual road due to it being blocked or something along those lines.

It varies from person to person and from situation to situation, but generally a big enough change (especially unexpected) will cause a shift to adrenaline mode when you will be very uncomfortable and will desperately want more time to process the situation, but unfortunately the world won't notice and will still demand a reaction way too fast.

While overload it usually connected to sensory stimulation it can also happen if you don't have enough time to process and the demand for a reaction or an answer keeps "hammering down" on you.

I remember being in a small restaurant with my mother and one of her employees, the waitress walked over and started going over the selection of food in different menu options.
I was still having an inner debate about a sauce in the first set, while she was already on the third one.
It was too much information too fast.
I went "Hold up!" out loud.

It wasn't that she was loud or anything like that, it was just that I didn't have the proper time to process.

She left, I calmed down went over all the information in peace and then we could order.

Luckily she didn't hold it against me or anything (by now we're one of their regulars), but she did learn it's best to wait for my que before listing more food.

P.S. If I've stumbled into the territory of over-explaining, I didn't mean to.
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JEWS PUT CHEMICALS IN THE WATER

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

(its true tho)
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Minuteworld: JEWS PUT CHEMICALS IN THE WATER

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

(its true tho)
Wrong thread Alex.