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FlockeSchnee: I'm not autistic (as far as I know) and I don't know all that much about it. If I recall correctly, it has something to do with having trouble grasping "social norms"/"personal boundaries" because they are very abstract and are often very different depending on whom you are interacting with and such things.

I don't know (to my knowledge) anyone who is in/on that spectrum either. As long as I'm treated right, I do the same. From what I understand, someone with autism may do/say something "inappropiate" that might come off as offending, but I'm imagening, it would lack the "proper tone" for that (= be delivered in a neutral matter of fact way instead of malicious/sarcastic/whatever) which would tell me, it wasn't intended as such so it shouldn't pose a problem for me. I might frown and wonder, but then again, I myself don't always get why (seemingly) non-autistic people do the things they do and say the things they say, so I probably would just let it go or ask for clarification or mention that I dind't like where that conversation/action went. But then again, that is how I would treat everyone else too. Hm... Unless I'm missing something important about being autistic, it probably wouldn't make a difference to me after all anyway (if the person was autistic or not).

(Well, I seem to remember, that some autists, can't quiet articulate their thoughts and feelings because of to much input/sensory overload? And this can cause them to be treated badly, because they can't quiet voice themselves and get help/get it to stop. People who treat other badly (while they know very well, what they are doing) are the kind of people that worry me and that I would prefer didn't exist.)
Let's see if I can break this down.

It's generally harder for autists to pick up social ques and understand them (gestures, facial expressions, diffrent tone of voice and such).
What other people pick up intuatively, autists understand better via rational explonations.

E.g. Someone might no know if you're being sarcastic and will take it too seriously because they will hear what you said, but will miss the how.

Delivery may suffer in some cases (some people may even be non-verbal as in they can't speak at all).

E.g. I can be animated with my friends, but otherwise people might describe me as somewhat inexpressive and my tone as somewaht flat.

Ah, sensory overload.
One of the most demanding things we deal with.

Basically every autist is more sensitive to some kind of stimuli (light and sound are common) than the average person and that can lead into overload.

Usually a person will "shut down" and try to somehow block whatever's causing the overload.

If it doesn't stop or if there's no escape option it can go to the point of a meltdown (a charged, sometimes violent reaction or outburst when the person just can't take it anymore).

If you want to help someone in overload, decrese the stimulation or get them out of there.

I've haven't experianced a meltdown, so I can't talk from personal experiance.

These videos could be a good "simulation" of what it's like. Plus they're short.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzaBmwhTv6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr4_dOorquQ

If you want a proper explonation, I'd suggest this video by "The Aspie World".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zakwb8YpWg

His videos are great to learn about autism.
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Wolfy777: <snip>
Have you watched the Chris Packham documentary that I refered to in my other comment (where I unfortunately misplaced my trust).

I found a copy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjdEJdr-vfs
Post edited September 26, 2018 by wpegg
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Wolfy777: <snip>
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wpegg: Have you watched the Chris Packham documentary that I refered to in my other thread (where I unfortunately misplaced my trust).

I found a copy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjdEJdr-vfs
Not yet, but I will.
Thanks for the link. :D *beams at having new research material*

May I ask what happened in the other thread and which one was it?
If you'd prefer not to answer, you don't have to.
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wpegg: Have you watched the Chris Packham documentary that I refered to in my other thread (where I unfortunately misplaced my trust).

I found a copy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjdEJdr-vfs
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Wolfy777: Not yet, but I will.
Thanks for the link. :D *beams at having new research material*

May I ask what happened in the other thread and which one was it?
If you'd prefer not to answer, you don't have to.
Apologies, other comment, just above. Fed the trolls.
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Wolfy777: Not yet, but I will.
Thanks for the link. :D *beams at having new research material*

May I ask what happened in the other thread and which one was it?
If you'd prefer not to answer, you don't have to.
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wpegg: Apologies, other comment, just above. Fed the trolls.
Understood, thanks. :)
hate the internet when they turn it into a insult when it was retard insult

so many things to read here, wish i could read all but i fail to stay focus, i'm part of the autism by abit, people with autism r just wired differently cause random ticks in there brain to go off, every1 is different, there is no normal/perfect normal human being, i hear alot or most of autism people want to live like any other human being without this such thing, they r just weaker in parts & mostly miss understand/stood about things, everything varys from person to person
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Wolfy777: <snip>
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wpegg: Have you watched the Chris Packham documentary that I refered to in my other comment (where I unfortunately misplaced my trust).

I found a copy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjdEJdr-vfs
I don't have time right now, but I might watch it later this week.
I'm not trolling, I'm just sceptical autism is as widespread as is often claimed.
Post edited September 27, 2018 by morolf
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wpegg:
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morolf: That doesn't sound very scientific.
I think the vast majority of people who claim to have Asperger's or other mild forms of autism are just introverts. Claiming that's a disease is just a money-making scam by the medical profession imo.
While you're perfectly entitled to your opinon let's clear some facts.

A disease can be cured, like cold or a fever.

Autism (no mattaer how deep in the spectrum) is medically classified as a lifelong disorder.
People can adjust and try to blend in, but there's no way to "reprogram" their brain to function like someone outside of the spectrum does.

Plus Asperger's is also a hidden condition, people don't "look autistic", but they struggle with sensory overloads and other problems just the same.

E.g. The actress in this video is autistic accrding to an interview.
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDXNmRo4CX0
Interview:
https://www.autism.org.uk/get-involved/tmi/stories/saskia.aspx

Edit: The link can be acessed normally now.
Post edited September 29, 2018 by Wolfy777
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--.--: Why? This seems extremely random imo.
Why not? I is in the general discussion section afterall...
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Themken: I was born that way.

I did not ask to be born with a damaged brain but it sure has formed my personality and in some ways not necessarily in a bad way but it sure made me different from others.
This^ It's pretty infuriating when people with normal brains and well adjusted childhoods attempt to armchair diagnose you...

(Severe ADHD/Anxiety here)
Post edited September 27, 2018 by takezodunmer2005
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Themken: Ever since they started talking about the autism spectrum, we are people with less talent for socializing but to a very varying degree.

Sure, some are so bad at communicating that they seem to live in a world of their own but they still do take in things from outside. Processing it can take a real long time though.
I know (or knew) one person who later revealed he's been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, and whenever I had seen him in meetings and such, I didn't really recognize anything odd with him. In fact, he was always kinda cheerful and smiling a lot when I met him with friends in social meetings etc., he didn't really seem socially awkward or anything, anymore than the rest of us. He seemed quite a kind person, not someone you'd expect to start argue with you or be nasty towards you.

So yeah, maybe most think of "autistic" what they saw in the movie Mercury Rising.

Then again, who knows what I could be diagnosed with. I recall at school a friend of mine sometimes joking about how I sometimes seem to just "drift away" with my thoughts while we are sitting together with friends and talking. I have no idea if I am normal or "special" in social situations: sometimes I am very talkative and even the centerpiece of the meeting, sometimes I just stay aside not opening my mouth at all, uninterested to any socializing (especially if it is people I don't know, talking about mundane things that I don't care about, like sports).
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viperfdl: I don't think I ever met any autistic person so I don't have any opinion about them.
You have to meet someone in order to have an opinion about them? Is that a personal stance of yours or do you think others should be that way also? For instance, I've never met Alexander The Great, but I have an opinion about him.
For some reason quoting in this thread doesn't work for me (anymore/the last couple of minutes).

Thanks @Wolfy777 for the detailed reply in post 31. I'm glad, I didn't get it completely wrong.
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viperfdl: I don't think I ever met any autistic person so I don't have any opinion about them.
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TARFU: You have to meet someone in order to have an opinion about them? Is that a personal stance of yours or do you think others should be that way also? For instance, I've never met Alexander The Great, but I have an opinion about him.
I'd interpret viperfdl's comment as "neutral".

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FlockeSchnee: For some reason quoting in this thread doesn't work for me (anymore/the last couple of minutes).

Thanks @Wolfy777 for the detailed reply in post 31. I'm glad, I didn't get it completely wrong.
You're welcome. :)

I tried to keep it as general as possible as autism is diffrent from person to person.

Glad I got the amount right, usually I fall into the trap of over-explaining. XD

P.S. I hope you get the proper reply option back soon. :)
Post edited September 27, 2018 by Wolfy777
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Without people on the autistic spectrum, nothing would have developed, been invented, painted, written, calculated, realised and so on.
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Sachys:
Without people on the autistic spectrum, nothing would have developed, been invented, painted, written, calculated, realised and so on.
Wow, talk about screaming positivity. :D

P.S. I knew of good list of autistic famous people, but I'm too tired (it's nearly midnight) to dig up the right link.