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nightcraw1er.488: Rock? You think a) not releasing the original here, and b) then not giving GOG users the same discount as another store is somehow beneficial?
If you want GOG to continue being the higher price second rate store it currently is then fine, but don’t blame me for pointing it out.

Let me try text once more, or I will switch to pictures:
Steam gets original GOG does not = steam wins
Steam gets extra 50% discount, GOG does not = steam wins
Dev adds reshade to game, introduces some bugs and makes loads of money = devs win
Nowhere does it say GOG wins!

Oh, and bearing in mind how little they have done with the old version the “expansion” is likely to be nothing more than a new wallpaper for the intro, with a massive glowing purple middle finger!
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Radiance1979: Lets start with saying that, as you already saw yourself that i'm indeed deeply depressed by the draw error i witnessed in the game but i also bought the game fully knowing that this is supposed to be a freshened up engine and not a complete overhaul of the game. I also noticed that most draw errors that exist in the original seem to have polished so that is also something i see as good. Furthermore i did buy the game on steam for a price which i could find oke since i did not play or own the expansions for the game. I was also contemplating to purchase the ultimate edition of control on GoG since on epic i own only the game without the expansions and with the price of the ultimate edition with launch discount being almost the same as the price you would pay for the expansion pass i see those overthinkings as logical.
so please understand that from my point of view i bought actually quite the nice deal which i'm certain to use for at least another 60 or maybe even 100+ hours and that for 20 euro!

Back to you

I do understand that you want the original here on GoG but that said, the original is also not available anymore on steam

the discount was only available to those that owned the original game so in no way the same discount could be granted to gog users since that would be very wrong from the sight of all the players who supported the game when it launched
personally i don't feel GoG had the bad part of the deal since they can add a sort of new game to their library which is sure to bring some other players to the menu

Now for the price, i can really say anything about it. It does seem that a price of 30 euro's would seem more apropiate then the full range of 40 euro's but then again, i did not play through the whole story to be able to justify the content for that price.

Kingdoms of Amalur is a huge game with a nice story certainly capable of entertaining people for more then 40 to a 100 hours or even more so yea...
“ I do understand that you want the original here on GoG but that said, the original is also not available anymore on steam” - it was available there for years, plenty of time to bring it here, even after they got the contract for reshading it.

There were several methods of checking wether a steam copy was owned, they did not want to do it. It’s irrelevant anyways, the simple fact is they did not want to, under any circumstances provide either the original or discount to gog customers.

Anyways, I give up, I have made it as simple as possible, it always staggers me how some people not only dive into this total rip off at all levels but actively defend the process. It is a con nothing else, hence why that dev is on my personal blacklist, and why THQ have joined the wary list and I won’t be buying anything from them without great consideration.
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Radiance1979: Lets start with saying that, as you already saw yourself that i'm indeed deeply depressed by the draw error i witnessed in the game but i also bought the game fully knowing that this is supposed to be a freshened up engine and not a complete overhaul of the game. I also noticed that most draw errors that exist in the original seem to have polished so that is also something i see as good. Furthermore i did buy the game on steam for a price which i could find oke since i did not play or own the expansions for the game. I was also contemplating to purchase the ultimate edition of control on GoG since on epic i own only the game without the expansions and with the price of the ultimate edition with launch discount being almost the same as the price you would pay for the expansion pass i see those overthinkings as logical.
so please understand that from my point of view i bought actually quite the nice deal which i'm certain to use for at least another 60 or maybe even 100+ hours and that for 20 euro!

Back to you

I do understand that you want the original here on GoG but that said, the original is also not available anymore on steam

the discount was only available to those that owned the original game so in no way the same discount could be granted to gog users since that would be very wrong from the sight of all the players who supported the game when it launched
personally i don't feel GoG had the bad part of the deal since they can add a sort of new game to their library which is sure to bring some other players to the menu

Now for the price, i can really say anything about it. It does seem that a price of 30 euro's would seem more apropiate then the full range of 40 euro's but then again, i did not play through the whole story to be able to justify the content for that price.

Kingdoms of Amalur is a huge game with a nice story certainly capable of entertaining people for more then 40 to a 100 hours or even more so yea...
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nightcraw1er.488: “ I do understand that you want the original here on GoG but that said, the original is also not available anymore on steam” - it was available there for years, plenty of time to bring it here, even after they got the contract for reshading it.

There were several methods of checking wether a steam copy was owned, they did not want to do it. It’s irrelevant anyways, the simple fact is they did not want to, under any circumstances provide either the original or discount to gog customers.

Anyways, I give up, I have made it as simple as possible, it always staggers me how some people not only dive into this total rip off at all levels but actively defend the process. It is a con nothing else, hence why that dev is on my personal blacklist, and why THQ have joined the wary list and I won’t be buying anything from them without great consideration.
yea well we all have our sins,

that said, gaming is personal for me, it is a hobby, i feel in no way obliged to look beyond the information that is publicly available and certainly won't even bother with outings from others calling this or that a scam or try to depict something negatively for what ever reason possible.
Of course i do have companies i have troubles with for whatever, Ubisoft for example, i seem to be right too with all the disclosures going on lately with even the big man himself apologizing for everything wrong in his company..... which is absurd of course because the development paths the company took with settlers or homnm has nothing to do with the sexual abuse of women.... if any you would expect some more macho behavior hidden in those files but it seems to be quite the opposite ;)
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nightcraw1er.488: “ I do understand that you want the original here on GoG but that said, the original is also not available anymore on steam” - it was available there for years, plenty of time to bring it here, even after they got the contract for reshading it.

There were several methods of checking wether a steam copy was owned, they did not want to do it. It’s irrelevant anyways, the simple fact is they did not want to, under any circumstances provide either the original or discount to gog customers.

Anyways, I give up, I have made it as simple as possible, it always staggers me how some people not only dive into this total rip off at all levels but actively defend the process. It is a con nothing else, hence why that dev is on my personal blacklist, and why THQ have joined the wary list and I won’t be buying anything from them without great consideration.
Keep fighting the good fight, I am wary of THQ for this behavior too. The original should have been here years ago and we don't need to support these companies that bend over backwards for Scheme users while acting like we should be grateful for any crumbs they drop here on GOG. This is the epitome of "GOG users being treated like second class". While I am curious about this game...I am now curious only on a deep, deep discount...like 90%+.
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nightcraw1er.488: “ I do understand that you want the original here on GoG but that said, the original is also not available anymore on steam” - it was available there for years, plenty of time to bring it here, even after they got the contract for reshading it.

There were several methods of checking wether a steam copy was owned, they did not want to do it. It’s irrelevant anyways, the simple fact is they did not want to, under any circumstances provide either the original or discount to gog customers.

Anyways, I give up, I have made it as simple as possible, it always staggers me how some people not only dive into this total rip off at all levels but actively defend the process. It is a con nothing else, hence why that dev is on my personal blacklist, and why THQ have joined the wary list and I won’t be buying anything from them without great consideration.
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rjbuffchix: Keep fighting the good fight, I am wary of THQ for this behavior too. The original should have been here years ago and we don't need to support these companies that bend over backwards for Scheme users while acting like we should be grateful for any crumbs they drop here on GOG. This is the epitome of "GOG users being treated like second class". While I am curious about this game...I am now curious only on a deep, deep discount...like 90%+.
I hope you don't mind me pointing out that first THQ did not own the rights of the first release of Kingdoms of Amalur and second .... how can anyone in his right mind can call their behavior something to be a suspect of, the first thing they did with the release of the new kingdoms is releasing it on GoG furthermore their 3 pages of games on GoG can hardly be called ' bread crums ' your reasoning makes me wonder if you have the right company in your mind when talking about THQ. Maybe you did mean Relic for example?

https://www.gog.com/games?page=1&sort=popularity&search=thq
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Radiance1979: I hope you don't mind me pointing out that first THQ did not own the rights of the first release of Kingdoms of Amalur...
I don't mind, but in hopes of clarifying that, I was going off of nightcraw1er.488's post (#16) about how " it was available [on the Scheme storefront] for years, plenty of time to bring it here, even after they got the contract for reshading it." The operative part being the "even after they got the contract for re-shading it."

As the years go on and more and more big DRM-free releases arrive here, including ones previously thought impossible, there are less and less excuses for developers and publishers to not bring games here in addition to bringing them to Scheme.


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Radiance1979: and second .... how can anyone in his right mind can call their behavior something to be a suspect of, the first thing they did with the release of the new kingdoms is releasing it on GoG furthermore their 3 pages of games on GoG can hardly be called ' bread crums ' your reasoning makes me wonder if you have the right company in your mind when talking about THQ.
It is possible for me to appreciate the games they have brought so far (and great job, kudos to them for doing so, I agree they deserve credit for this), while also being wary about Amalur and future titles from them. If they don't want me to think the worst of them, then it is on them to not treat me (as a GOG customer) like second class. If I have it wrong about nightcraw1er's post and there was absolutely no way for them to bring the original here within the last few years, I apologize.
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Radiance1979: I hope you don't mind me pointing out that first THQ did not own the rights of the first release of Kingdoms of Amalur...
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rjbuffchix: I don't mind, but in hopes of clarifying that, I was going off of nightcraw1er.488's post (#16) about how " it was available [on the Scheme storefront] for years, plenty of time to bring it here, even after they got the contract for reshading it." The operative part being the "even after they got the contract for re-shading it."

As the years go on and more and more big DRM-free releases arrive here, including ones previously thought impossible, there are less and less excuses for developers and publishers to not bring games here in addition to bringing them to Scheme.

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Radiance1979: and second .... how can anyone in his right mind can call their behavior something to be a suspect of, the first thing they did with the release of the new kingdoms is releasing it on GoG furthermore their 3 pages of games on GoG can hardly be called ' bread crums ' your reasoning makes me wonder if you have the right company in your mind when talking about THQ.
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rjbuffchix: It is possible for me to appreciate the games they have brought so far (and great job, kudos to them for doing so, I agree they deserve credit for this), while also being wary about Amalur and future titles from them. If they don't want me to think the worst of them, then it is on them to not treat me (as a GOG customer) like second class. If I have it wrong about nightcraw1er's post and there was absolutely no way for them to bring the original here within the last few years, I apologize.
I do agree on the cautious take you have on any new remastered release. Developers seem to be just as bound to fall victim to a hype as anyone is
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Radiance1979: I hope you don't mind me pointing out that first THQ did not own the rights of the first release of Kingdoms of Amalur...
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rjbuffchix: I don't mind, but in hopes of clarifying that, I was going off of nightcraw1er.488's post (#16) about how " it was available [on the Scheme storefront] for years, plenty of time to bring it here, even after they got the contract for reshading it." The operative part being the "even after they got the contract for re-shading it."

As the years go on and more and more big DRM-free releases arrive here, including ones previously thought impossible, there are less and less excuses for developers and publishers to not bring games here in addition to bringing them to Scheme.

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Radiance1979: and second .... how can anyone in his right mind can call their behavior something to be a suspect of, the first thing they did with the release of the new kingdoms is releasing it on GoG furthermore their 3 pages of games on GoG can hardly be called ' bread crums ' your reasoning makes me wonder if you have the right company in your mind when talking about THQ.
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rjbuffchix: It is possible for me to appreciate the games they have brought so far (and great job, kudos to them for doing so, I agree they deserve credit for this), while also being wary about Amalur and future titles from them. If they don't want me to think the worst of them, then it is on them to not treat me (as a GOG customer) like second class. If I have it wrong about nightcraw1er's post and there was absolutely no way for them to bring the original here within the last few years, I apologize.
If they worked on the game, they must have had some license for it.

Also, there is a lot of new releases happening here, unfortunately all too often as a secondary. For instance the serious Sam 4 game (which I have preordered), there is no 2 or 3, plus missing patches for tfe and tse. It’s becoming more normal for devs to treat this pace as a milking parlour. This one didn’t even bother hiding it, went out and announced that GOG wasn’t going to get anything like steam.

As for THQ, well empires fall in a day. One bad apple ruins your reputation and all that. I only said I was more cautious of buying games from them now, that trust has gone with this release.
Post edited September 16, 2020 by nightcraw1er.488
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nightcraw1er.488: If they worked on the game, they must have had some license for it.

Also, there is a lot of new releases happening here, unfortunately all too often as a secondary. For instance the serious Sam 4 game (which I have preordered), there is no 2 or 3, plus missing patches for tfe and tse. It’s becoming more normal for devs to treat this pace as a milking parlour. This one didn’t even bother hiding it, went out and announced that GOG wasn’t going to get anything like steam.

As for THQ, well empires fall in a day. One bad apple ruins your reputation and all that. I only said I was more cautious of buying games from them now, that trust has gone with this release.
On a side note, if you own the original on Origin (and the physical release required an Origin account, from what I recall), you also don't get a discount on KoA: Re-Soakening. There's no way I'm going to believe they can't figure out if you own the base game on Origin. No, it's only Steam users that get the sweet deal.
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nightcraw1er.488: If they worked on the game, they must have had some license for it.

Also, there is a lot of new releases happening here, unfortunately all too often as a secondary. For instance the serious Sam 4 game (which I have preordered), there is no 2 or 3, plus missing patches for tfe and tse. It’s becoming more normal for devs to treat this pace as a milking parlour. This one didn’t even bother hiding it, went out and announced that GOG wasn’t going to get anything like steam.

As for THQ, well empires fall in a day. One bad apple ruins your reputation and all that. I only said I was more cautious of buying games from them now, that trust has gone with this release.
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TerriblePurpose: On a side note, if you own the original on Origin (and the physical release required an Origin account, from what I recall), you also don't get a discount on KoA: Re-Soakening. There's no way I'm going to believe they can't figure out if you own the base game on Origin. No, it's only Steam users that get the sweet deal.
It could be that since origin also makes the game available as a ea play game they don't go as far as applying any discount since that is not in their direct interest. But that would be as much speculation as your statement that THQ is the one to blame there
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rjbuffchix: I don't mind, but in hopes of clarifying that, I was going off of nightcraw1er.488's post (#16) about how " it was available [on the Scheme storefront] for years, plenty of time to bring it here, even after they got the contract for reshading it." The operative part being the "even after they got the contract for re-shading it."

As the years go on and more and more big DRM-free releases arrive here, including ones previously thought impossible, there are less and less excuses for developers and publishers to not bring games here in addition to bringing them to Scheme.

It is possible for me to appreciate the games they have brought so far (and great job, kudos to them for doing so, I agree they deserve credit for this), while also being wary about Amalur and future titles from them. If they don't want me to think the worst of them, then it is on them to not treat me (as a GOG customer) like second class. If I have it wrong about nightcraw1er's post and there was absolutely no way for them to bring the original here within the last few years, I apologize.
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nightcraw1er.488: If they worked on the game, they must have had some license for it.

Also, there is a lot of new releases happening here, unfortunately all too often as a secondary. For instance the serious Sam 4 game (which I have preordered), there is no 2 or 3, plus missing patches for tfe and tse. It’s becoming more normal for devs to treat this pace as a milking parlour. This one didn’t even bother hiding it, went out and announced that GOG wasn’t going to get anything like steam.

As for THQ, well empires fall in a day. One bad apple ruins your reputation and all that. I only said I was more cautious of buying games from them now, that trust has gone with this release.
yea the license was aquired by THQ somewhere last year

https://www.pcgamer.com/thq-nordic-buys-kingdoms-of-amalur-license-from-38-studios/

2018 according to the article
Post edited September 16, 2020 by Radiance1979
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Radiance1979: But that would be as much speculation as your statement that THQ is the one to blame there
I made no such statement.
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Radiance1979: But that would be as much speculation as your statement that THQ is the one to blame there
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TerriblePurpose: I made no such statement.
Not in a direct manner, and i'm certainly not willing to speculate about another mens motive so, excuse me
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TerriblePurpose: I made no such statement.
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Radiance1979: Not in a direct manner, and i'm certainly not willing to speculate about another mens motive so, excuse me
To clarify: on the Steam forums it was stated they couldn't give owners on Origin a discount because there was no way to verify ownership. I questioned the veracity of that statement. But whether it's THQ's fault or EA's (or both) I have no idea, and frankly don't care. The result is the same.