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Those scenes of them rubbing each other with KY Jelly were pretty common, especially in the early years. No idea about the boners. Wasn't what I was watching for....but I guess for not being a porn star, and unable to get erections, it would be a fairly common reaction to such..."intimacy"...
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Fenixp: Dude, it's his hand in low quality :D
Yeah I saw some comments say that, but if you look at ~1:07 his hand waves around back and forth, but the foreign object he's smuggling in his underwear stands motionless. He doesn't even care though and that's what does make it seem like maybe it does just look like it, but I kinda want it to be true that he was sporting an erection and simply didn't care, he's my hero in a certain way.

*writing that made me realize I need to stop watching this video.
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Goatbrush: ...
Well you know, at least it's authentic. And healthy!
Almost all fans hate the ending.

Critics hate the ending.

The cast hates the ending.

I hate the ending.
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Fenixp: Just finished the last part. Of all the canned shows ever, that was the most satisfying ending I have ever seen. There was a little cheap bit in it, but other than that... Brilliant, simply brilliant. And I'm not even that much of Star Trek fan!

I just have no one around and wanted to share. Yes, I'm using these boards instead of facebook, I hope you guys'll forgive me.
Wow, I've met the most rarest of rare beasts: someone who didn't think Enterprise sucked. My friends always looked at me like I was insane for even daring to suggest that Enterprise was entertaining or at least had some moments of brilliance, but to this day I lump Enterprise in with Macross Frontier and WWE as a "guilty pleasure".

I have to disagree on the ending though. Why did they have to tie it into Pegasus from TNG, especially seeing the obvious difference in age with Frakes and Sirtis between that episode and the time that they filmed the series finale? I really didn't see why they had to keep on shoehorning in links to TNG throughout the show (e.g. the Proto-Borg, Arik Soong, etc.); it smacked of pointless fanservice, the way the NX-01 was inexplicably modelled after the popular Akira-class ships seen in First Contact.
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dr.zli: only watched parts with t'pol, rest was done in fast forward XD
I didn't like it, T'pol on the other hand was awesome XD
I actually appreciated T'Pol because she wasn't just pure eye candy for six years the way Marina Sirtis was in TNG, or she wasn't pointlessly shoehorned into the crew the way Jeri Ryan was in Voyager.

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Lone3wolf: Those scenes of them rubbing each other with KY Jelly were pretty common, especially in the early years. No idea about the boners. Wasn't what I was watching for....but I guess for not being a porn star, and unable to get erections, it would be a fairly common reaction to such..."intimacy"...
ROFL. The "decontamination" scenes were so laughable that I'm amazed that the cast could keep a straight face, especially with the scenes where Porthos was part of the orgy.
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TParis: ...
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rampancy: ...
I ... Really liked it for what it was, and found that they wrapped up the ending quite well. I usually ignore inconsistencies, especially since I believe that he who looks at those doesn't quite grasp the point of Star Trek. However, save for one totally pointless and forced death, I think that they have done the whole 'chronological jumps' very well, I actually liked the TNG tie-in, and loved the whole forming the alliance part. And the 'all famous starships' thing at the end was just fantastic.
My problem with Enterprise was that they kept on trying to do these large story arcs, when Star Trek is best with small stories. I also thought they brought up time travel way too much. But I really did like the show.
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doccarnby: My problem with Enterprise was that they kept on trying to do these large story arcs, when Star Trek is best with small stories. I also thought they brought up time travel way too much. But I really did like the show.
Hm, interesting I found DS9's long overarching story and series to be the best of the Star Treks. Enterprise's problems in my opinion was really its characters and writing. It recycled a lot of old Star Trek story's while the dialogue and writing was bad. I agree they used time travel to much, the show was rather unoriginal overall. Mayweather was such a terrible character.

I am honestly not sure if Voyager or Enterprise is worse. I suppose the only redeeming thing putting Voyagers laughable storys and dialogue was the Borg episodes which surprisingly were often well done. It's also funny that Jeri Ryan whom was given the goofiest roles at times came off as one of the only serious characters of the show.
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doccarnby: My problem with Enterprise was that they kept on trying to do these large story arcs, when Star Trek is best with small stories. I also thought they brought up time travel way too much. But I really did like the show.
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warstomp: Hm, interesting I found DS9's long overarching story and series to be the best of the Star Treks. Enterprise's problems in my opinion was really its characters and writing. It recycled a lot of old Star Trek story's while the dialogue and writing was bad. I agree they used time travel to much, the show was rather unoriginal overall. Mayweather was such a terrible character.

I am honestly not sure if Voyager or Enterprise is worse. I suppose the only redeeming thing putting Voyagers laughable storys and dialogue was the Borg episodes which surprisingly were often well done. It's also funny that Jeri Ryan whom was given the goofiest roles at times came off as one of the only serious characters of the show.
It's been a long time since I watched Voyager or DS9, but I remember enjoying Voyager a lot and DS9... not so much. I should rewatch all the Treks (including the only one I've never seen, TAS, I think I'll like it).
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warstomp: Hm, interesting I found DS9's long overarching story and series to be the best of the Star Treks. Enterprise's problems in my opinion was really its characters and writing. It recycled a lot of old Star Trek story's while the dialogue and writing was bad. I agree they used time travel to much, the show was rather unoriginal overall. Mayweather was such a terrible character.

I am honestly not sure if Voyager or Enterprise is worse. I suppose the only redeeming thing putting Voyagers laughable storys and dialogue was the Borg episodes which surprisingly were often well done. It's also funny that Jeri Ryan whom was given the goofiest roles at times came off as one of the only serious characters of the show.
This is pretty much my experience as well - my favorite was DS9 and I liked TNG and TOS, while I thought Voyager was generally bad to mediocre with the exception of a few good episodes (mostly Borg ones). By the time Enterprise came out I had watched TOS, Next Generation, DS9, and Voyager. To use a metaphor that I wouldn't have known at the time, watching Enterprise I felt I was watching the TV tropes of Star Trek. Even beyond the quality of the writing in the first season, I simply felt I had seen each episode before in some earlier Star Trek. Essentially I was bored to the point I even forgot the show was on - actually my whole family simply forgot and then we realized that none of us actually cared that we had missed episodes. That was when we stopped watching altogether. :) I heard it got better, but I've never been bothered enough to find out.

I think ST on TV would've been better off had the powers that be let it lie fallow for a decade or so after Voyager before letting a new set writers and producers at it with new angles. TNG came almost two decades after TOS. That might be a bit long, but sometimes it's good to let rest even those universes with more stories to tell. It gives the next generation (sorry couldn't resist) a chance to tell new and creative stories in a well loved setting.
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When I watched enterprise I had the benefit of dvr-ing the show off of hdnet(which moved all the commercials to the end of the program so you could watch the entire program without breaking and I saw the entire series in order this way. But anyways, I thought the latter 2 sessons were so much better than the first 2 with a few exceptions here and there(Shran was an awesome character).

The episodes of the first 2 seasons, in my opinion, suffered from what I call instant resolution syndrome. Basically in a 44 minute show 3 minutes were used for credits(beginning and end) and of the rest it seemed like everything built of to a climax in like 38-39 minutes at which point everything was wrapped up in like 2 minutes. Without much explanation or aftermath.

While the third season had the longest overarching story it was also more like voyager in its overarching story(I.E. they had an ultimate goal but each episode had its own story that got "wrapped up". Season 4 felt like just a bunch of 2-3 parters(not that that is bad) with a singular episode thrown in now and then. Although aside from a couple of bright spots the final episode was rushed and disappointing, I hated the death, but liked the TNG tie in as well as the final shot with the famous line without which "it just wouldn't feel like Star Trek."

As for other series I've only seen a few episodes of TOS, DS9, and VOY and was mostly hooked through TNG of which I think I've seen all the episodes(especially in syndication) and even then I like the latter seasons of TNG more.
I loved the first episode of Enterprise but most of seasons 1 and 2 after that were pretty meh. Seasons 3 and 4 were great though, really good "action Trek" for lack of a better term.

The series finale was crap though, it doesn't exist in my personal canon, lol.
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dr.zli: only watched parts with t'pol, rest was done in fast forward XD
I didn't like it, T'pol on the other hand was awesome XD
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Goatbrush: Reminds me of this video I was linked of the shower scene a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRRE9zA1C5Q

Did that actually air? is it an optical illusion? I didn't watch the show (or at least not up to that episode) so I'm not sure. I mean, I can understand it, but he's just so nonchalant about it. Maybe in the future walking around with erect penises will be the norm and that's the motivation, but I saw a few episodes of TNG and Picard never walked around with a semi.
I completely understand that man. He's trying to act while being massaged by a semi naked hot chick. Yet he looks cool. This man is my hero! XD
I came to a personal conclusion on the finale a year or so ago, the finale of Enterprise was Demons/Terra Prime but the finale to Star Trek as a whole was These Are The Voyages.

It works out far better if you think of it that way, the show gets its finale then the franchise gets its finale.
As far as Star Trek goes, Enterprise was a show I greatly enjoyed. I especially liked the characters and ever since Quantum Leap I liked Scott Bakula playing a lead.

I think a lot of the "cheesy stuff" like "decontamination" were throwbacks to TOS, which was -a lot- goofier. But they didn't really work because it is no longer the 70s. What I also found rather sad was that they were no longer trying to "push the social envelope" like some of the earlier shows. Eg, they could have had at least one gay character, I personally thought Archer would have done well, considering Bakulas role in American Beauty.

My favourtie Trek show was DS9. It was, imo, the most mature and I generally like shows with long lasting story arcs. It also had a great lead with Avery Brooks as "Captain". TNG was good, but only because of the actors and their characters. The episodes however were mostly "hit and miss", some really great, some utterly rubbish (Blam episodes). Voyager was, imo, utter crap. Unlikeable characters and shitty writing. I only watched the first two seasons, however. But I simply can't stand most of the main cast so going back to watch the show really isn't an option for me.