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reason i ask as i have loads of stuff installed and its covering my screen so i want to make them smaller but more annoyingly, sometimes when i turn my computer on its jumbled up the icons from the order i placed them in
Post edited April 11, 2011 by ShogunDarius
This question / problem has been solved by Vagabondimage
http://www.stardock.com/products/fences/
I don't think you can make icons smaller than the smallest size offered in the View menu (right click context menu on desktop). You might be better off looking at alternative ways of managing your icons. I would recommend looking at either Fences or Object Dock from Stardock (both have free versions you can try).

Stardock's Impulse, etc., may suck but when it comes to desktop utilities they have some pretty good ones.

I'm also sure there's probably other free alternatives too, but I'm at a loss to name any except Lightstep and I'm not sure that one is even around anymore.
why do the icons jumble up anyway?
Post edited April 11, 2011 by ShogunDarius
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ShogunDarius: why do the icons jumble up anywany?
I'd guess it's Windows' way of saying "time to clean up".

:-P
Post edited April 11, 2011 by Miaghstir
You know, you can use the start menu, and never bother with desktop shortcuts.

Just press the Windows key and type what you're after, and press Enter. :)
Related question: When I open apps I sometimes drag them to a different location on the desktop, usually so it's not overlapping some other open app or doc. Problem is, if I reopen the app at a later date it goes back to the original position and I end up moving it again. Is there a way for Windows to have the app (in this case, Calculator) open in the same new position each time? I've searched but found nothing; maybe I'm not using the right terms.
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ShogunDarius: reason i ask as i have loads of stuff installed and its covering my screen so i want to make them smaller but more annoyingly, sometimes when i turn my computer on its jumbled up the icons from the order i placed them in
This can happen if you change resolutions. Do you have a game that is changing from your regular res and then back again once it's finished? I've seen it several times where the icons get moved around after playing certain games (I don't remember which ones did it) that force a resolution change.
Post edited April 11, 2011 by HereForTheBeer
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HereForTheBeer: Related question: When I open apps I sometimes drag them to a different location on the desktop, usually so it's not overlapping some other open app or doc. Problem is, if I reopen the app at a later date it goes back to the original position and I end up moving it again. Is there a way for Windows to have the app (in this case, Calculator) open in the same new position each time? I've searched but found nothing; maybe I'm not using the right terms.
It depends on the app. For example, when coding apps, you can set a property that determines the starting position of the app, whether it is always centered, randomly chosen, in a fixed position, or can be user-changed.

Some apps have ini files or registry keys in which they keep their starting positions. You could find them and edit them to suit your needs.
Ah, thanks. There's no ini file for Calculator but maybe it can be done through win.ini. I'll have to take a look at that.
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HereForTheBeer: Ah, thanks. There's no ini file for Calculator but maybe it can be done through win.ini. I'll have to take a look at that.
Most of Microsoft's apps don't use ini files for configuration. Most, if not all, use the registry.
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ShogunDarius: reason i ask as i have loads of stuff installed and its covering my screen so i want to make them smaller but more annoyingly, sometimes when i turn my computer on its jumbled up the icons from the order i placed them in
I've got a program that lets me save my desktop icon positions.

http://amip.tools-for.net/files/dips64/

So when I press and hold shift and right click the desktop it gives me the options to save icon positions and restore them. I found this after getting annoyed when switching desktop resolution sent the icons all over the place.