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john_hatcher: Oh, how convenient. Now the hackers are responsible for the delays and superb Cyberjunk game. Good thing I never preordered this game.
Systems were breached, what did you expect would happen?

In such a case any company would go into lockdown and only allow the most essential access to the systems while they examine the vulnerabilities that caused the breach, if new vulnerabilities were introduced by the hackers, etc. This makes remote work all but impossible.
They will also in all likelihood rollout backups from before the breach to get rid of whatever surprises the hackers left behind, wiping all Patch progress since then.
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kohlrak: Wait, they're using an AV to find the virus instead of reformatting a computer known to be infected? Didn't theAV fail the first time?
Unless its for post-mortem analysis, the modus-operandi in 2021 is to throw a machine that misbehaves in the garbage and provision a new one.

Anyways, you can do that super easily if you are using a virtualization layer (any cloud provider or Openstack & alternatives for on-prem).

If you are operating on bare-metal, its a little more complicated (you got to reprovision your machine on the same hardware given that it isn't virtualized), but you should still have a setup in place to reprovision a machine fairly quickly.
Post edited February 25, 2021 by Magnitus
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john_hatcher: Oh, how convenient. Now the hackers are responsible for the delays and superb Cyberjunk game. Good thing I never preordered this game.
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Randalator: Systems were breached, what did you expect would happen?

In such a case any company would go into lockdown and only allow the most essential access to the systems while they examine the vulnerabilities that caused the breach, if new vulnerabilities were introduced by the hackers, etc. This makes remote work all but impossible.
They will also in all likelihood rollout backups from before the breach to get rid of whatever surprises the hackers left behind, wiping all Patch progress since then.
i would expect development to continue as before
yeah a company would do that you wrote if they want to suicide
why would they wipe all the patch progress?
Post edited February 25, 2021 by Orkhepaj
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Randalator: Systems were breached, what did you expect would happen?

In such a case any company would go into lockdown and only allow the most essential access to the systems while they examine the vulnerabilities that caused the breach, if new vulnerabilities were introduced by the hackers, etc. This makes remote work all but impossible.
They will also in all likelihood rollout backups from before the breach to get rid of whatever surprises the hackers left behind, wiping all Patch progress since then.
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Orkhepaj: i would expect development to continue as before
yeah a company would do that you wrote if they want to suicide
why would they wipe all the patch progress?
Because they need to get rid of any backdoors, viruses, etc. the hackers might have left. The only way to be sure is through backups and those will wipe the progress.

The same goes for ransomware that might have removed acces to WIP patch files. Only way out is restoring a backup.
Post edited February 25, 2021 by Randalator
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Orkhepaj: i would expect development to continue as before
yeah a company would do that you wrote if they want to suicide
why would they wipe all the patch progress?
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Randalator: Because they need to get rid of any backdoors, viruses, etc. the hackers might have left. The only way to be sure is through backups and those will wipe the progress.
but you can clearly separate the game code development from the rest of the system
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Randalator: Because they need to get rid of any backdoors, viruses, etc. the hackers might have left. The only way to be sure is through backups and those will wipe the progress.
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Orkhepaj: but you can clearly separate the game code development from the rest of the system
No you can't because all kinds of nasty surprises might have been introduced into the patch files. Imagine rolling out a patch containing a ransomware routine to customers. You HAVE to wipe those files.
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Orkhepaj: but you can clearly separate the game code development from the rest of the system
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Randalator: No you can't because all kinds of nasty surprises might have been introduced into the patch files. Imagine rolling out a patch containing a ransomware routine to customers. You HAVE to wipe those files.
no i dont , i just have to check the changes
Post edited February 25, 2021 by Orkhepaj
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Randalator: No you can't because all kinds of nasty surprises might have been introduced into the patch files. Imagine rolling out a patch containing a ransomware routine to customers. You HAVE to wipe those files.
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Orkhepaj: no i dont , i just have to check the changes
Check against what?
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Orkhepaj: no i dont , i just have to check the changes
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Randalator: Check against what?
they surely have a version control system , so just check the latest commits
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Randalator: Check against what?
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Orkhepaj: they surely have a version control system , so just check the latest commits
So they find X files with undocumented changes since the last commit ten days ago, what then? They don't exist in a vacuum, you cannot rollback those files and just keep the rest. So you lose whatever progress might have been made since then.

And the hackers might even have been able to sneak something into one of the commits. So first you have to establish since when unauthorised system access existed. Until then no progress can be made at all. That alone will set back any development progress for weeks. And afterwards you might lose X amount of progress on top.
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Orkhepaj: they surely have a version control system , so just check the latest commits
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Randalator: So they find X files with undocumented changes since the last commit ten days ago, what then? They don't exist in a vacuum, you cannot rollback those files and just keep the rest. So you lose whatever progress might have been made since then.

And the hackers might even have been able to sneak something into one of the commits. So first you have to establish since when unauthorised system access existed. Until then no progress can be made at all. That alone will set back any development progress for weeks. And afterwards you might lose X amount of progress on top.
oh yeah purge everything or this could happen with the technician: https://youtu.be/O7hgjuFfn3A?t=555
imho you watched too many hacking movies

and how can they be sure the previous backup is not already infested?
purge the whole project start with inventing diodes
Post edited February 25, 2021 by Orkhepaj
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Randalator: So they find X files with undocumented changes since the last commit ten days ago, what then? They don't exist in a vacuum, you cannot rollback those files and just keep the rest. So you lose whatever progress might have been made since then.

And the hackers might even have been able to sneak something into one of the commits. So first you have to establish since when unauthorised system access existed. Until then no progress can be made at all. That alone will set back any development progress for weeks. And afterwards you might lose X amount of progress on top.
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Orkhepaj: oh yeah purge everything or this could happen with the technician: https://youtu.be/O7hgjuFfn3A?t=555
imho you watched too many hacking movies

and how can they be sure the previous backup is not already infested?
purge the whole project start with inventing diodes
Or maybe I have been employed by companies that were affected by security breaches/ransomware attacks and am speaking from experience.
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Orkhepaj: oh yeah purge everything or this could happen with the technician: https://youtu.be/O7hgjuFfn3A?t=555
imho you watched too many hacking movies

and how can they be sure the previous backup is not already infested?
purge the whole project start with inventing diodes
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Randalator: Or maybe I have been employed by companies that were affected by security breaches/ransomware attacks and am speaking from experience.
i highly doubt that
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Randalator: Or maybe I have been employed by companies that were affected by security breaches/ransomware attacks and am speaking from experience.
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Orkhepaj: i highly doubt that
Well, you're wrong.
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Randalator: So they find X files with undocumented changes since the last commit ten days ago, what then? They don't exist in a vacuum, you cannot rollback those files and just keep the rest. So you lose whatever progress might have been made since then.

And the hackers might even have been able to sneak something into one of the commits. So first you have to establish since when unauthorised system access existed. Until then no progress can be made at all. That alone will set back any development progress for weeks. And afterwards you might lose X amount of progress on top.
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Orkhepaj: oh yeah purge everything or this could happen with the technician: https://youtu.be/O7hgjuFfn3A?t=555
imho you watched too many hacking movies

and how can they be sure the previous backup is not already infested?
purge the whole project start with inventing diodes
No, you roll back EVERYTHING to before the attack. This actually becomes problematic with delayed release bugs because learning the exact time and date of infection is tough. But you don't assume anything is safe and not all changes are so simple to detect. Anything that was on the network is suspect, so they'll likely have lost progress.