I mean... look. I get that some people don't want Galaxy, but I think we know how options in installers work. We don't need to make a big production of this.

If GOG can assume people are too dumb to follow the huge 'TRY GOG GALAXY' banners and install Galaxy I think it's fine if someone wants to explain how options in an installer work, especially if they aren't directly apparent.

Shall do.
P.S. great stuff, you've saved "some" sanity ;)

Well, the very point of a lot of the outrage about what GOG's done is that up till now they were trust worthy enough we didn't have to doublecheck everything every single time. That is no longer the case, hence the need to inform everyone. There is a very reall difference between not reading the operating manual for your microwave every single time you make popcorn, and being to stupid to make it at all.

Which is a fair point.. but not exactly Gog's fault. You can't really blame them for being too honest in the past. Considering there are people on the forums who won't touch a Google product or make a Facebook account because of the practices of those companies it seems a stretch to suggest we all blindly accepted Gog's installers as completely safe and clean. I don't buy into any of that hysteria, or the current doom and gloom about Gog, but I've always checked the options on all my Gog game installs.

I think your analogy is a little flawed though. Unless you're talking about installers you have downloaded in the past and used safely at least once then you should always be careful of any new installer or software, even from a reputable site.

But that *isn't* the argument, because the notion that gamers are too dumb to download and install a gaming client is just GOG taking the piss in our faces.

Exactly. So we're not too stupid to click options and disable anything we don't want.

And if we are, then Gog are clearly exactly right about the intelligence of their users.

I *might* put up with that when it comes to freeware, but it is *entirely* unacceptable to have to do that with retail purchases.

If GOG wants to make Galaxy mandatory, fine, it's their prerogative; lying and deception, however, are not.

More joking.

Doesn't mean we should have to be constantly on our toes downloading and installing things. We should be able to trust the store we give our money to. Being smart enough to avoid being scammed doesn't make the attempt to scamm us any better.

And if that is true, then it's also wrong to take advantage of that stupidity to push the client rather than making an extra effort that everything is clearly explained and all the options are clearly laid out.

Either way shady tactics are shady, and there is no way to spin it to make it the proper, honest way of doing business.

+1

I don't get what adaliabooks is trying to say! I mean, I have the natural urge to construct counter-arguments, but basically, I just don't get his point.

I can only get it to make sense on an emotional level: My original post was kinda like a consumer political statement. As such, it can be just as irritating as any other kind of preaching. Maybe this is the core here.

Anyhow ... I bought the game Nex Machina at launch. Since it is heavily inspired by the classic arcade game Robotron, the entire game is based on replaying the same levels over and over, to raise your high score. To up the replay value, it is also possible to earn coins in an Arena mode, so you can buy new visuals for your avatar, and there are a few achievements too.

But all of this, achievements, Arena mode, even the basic high-score, those fundamental features only work in Galaxy. Since upping your high-score is the entire goal here, the game is heavily crippled.
The game is based on online high scores, so it makes some sense that it requires Galaxy. Still, it is a single player game (with local co-op) so a potential buyer has no way of guessing that it is heavily dependent on that fully optional client. This basic requirement wasn't mentioned on the sales page.

This might be a problem in the near future: More and more games becoming more dependent on Galaxy, and the customers having to figure out on their own which games they can play without the client.

(By the way, Nex Machina is pretty awesome, so if you use Galaxy and have a controller, I can fully recommend it!)

So much effort over such a silly thing. You guys need to get over yourselves.

Unfortunately this is what I have started to do. Not buy many GoG games now.
I Fear their own games after the Witcher may only be available via Galaxy, in which case I will not buy them.
To me Galaxy is Steam in another wrapper.