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If you preordered Botanicula on GOG.com or have been paying attention to this quirky adventure game, you very probably heard all of the noise around the Humble Botanicula Debut and how some users were left rather unhappy about paying $8.99 for a preorder of the game while people who bought it on day one could pay whatever they wanted for it and they got more goodies than the GOG.com preorder provided.

This left an unsurprisingly sour taste in some gamers’ mouths, and we were just as surprised by the launch of the Humble Botanicula Debut as anyone else was. As soon as we saw the bundle, we reached out to the guys at Amanita about providing our users with something in return for their preorders; we got them to agree to give us a number of goodies from the bundle, and we’re giving you and every other user who bought the game before 12:00 GMT on the 20th of April will receive a few things. Everyone who bought Botanicula before we published this news will automatically be getting Machinarium to your shelf on Monday, and we’ll be emailing all of those purchasers with links where they can download the full soundtrack and a special artbook of Botanicula designs and character sketches.

Finally, we wanted to give you guys something that you couldn’t get in the Humble Bundle to make sure that you didn’t feel like you got a raw deal. To that end, courtesy of our fine friends at CDP RED, we’re happy to let you know that we’re also giving you and everyone else who already bought Botanicula a free copy of The Witcher: Enhanced Edition Director’s Cut! This game will also be on your shelf on Monday, so look for it then.

At GOG.com, we’ll never knowingly disappoint you, and while this preorder mishap may have made you a little unhappy, we hope that you enjoy Botanicula--it’s a fantastic game and many of us here at the office are fans--and, if you’d like to say “thanks!” to our pals at CDP RED, check out The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition, available right now at your favorite DRM-free game store, GOG.com.

Have a great weekend!

--The GOG.com Team
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maycett: I don't see 10 posts by that user in this thread. Nor do I see him "picking on" GOG. I think you're getting too emotional and exaggerating.

In any case, calling people names because you don't like what they say is bad form and immature.
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spinefarm: "I think that GOG should reconsider some of their business decisions ¡, at least while Amanita keeps offering their Bundle deal. "

"It's not GOG fault that Amanita decided to do the Bundle, but it is GOG decision on how to treat customers that still buy from them despite there being more advantageous deals from other vendors. Failure to do that will just push away any potential customers that hope to get the best value for their money. "

"My point, in case you're still not seeing it, is that the Humble Bundle generated the need for GOG to compensate their customers from getting the short end of the stick. They gave away 2 games for those who had pre-ordered it. Guess what? The Humble Bundle is still going on, so the offer SHOULD still hold up. I bought the game on impulse here on GOG.com thinking that I would get the best value for my money and the best deal possible, as they always claim. What's there stopping people to flock to Amanita for their bundle and GOG.com generating meager earnings on Botanicula? Absolutely nothing, because the value just doesn't add up. "

No this is not "picking" ;) I guess you are right it is greed :)
I don't see that he's picking on GOG, but I suppose someone as defensive of GOG as you might see it differently.

I still can't find 10 posts by him in this thread, and I still think the name calling was rude and unnecessary. Perhaps you should calm down? ;)
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maycett: snip
I'm calm :) Drinking my coffee waiting for Giro D'Italia :)
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maycett: snip
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spinefarm: I'm calm :) Drinking my coffee waiting for Giro D'Italia :)
That's cool. No need to get worked up about this :)

The botanicula thing is ancient history and should have blown over by now anyway :P
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spinefarm: I'm calm :) Drinking my coffee waiting for Giro D'Italia :)
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maycett: That's cool. No need to get worked up about this :)

The botanicula thing is ancient history and should have blown over by now anyway :P
Yeah deffo... And yet people....are people :D
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maycett: That's cool. No need to get worked up about this :)

The botanicula thing is ancient history and should have blown over by now anyway :P
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spinefarm: Yeah deffo... And yet people....are people :D
And you sir are what comes to mind when you think about hard-headed, illiterate people with internet access. When you read something that you don't like, you jump into attack-mode. The good thing is that that attitude will only carry you so far in life until you get a reality check.

I don't know about where YOU live, but in pretty much every decent country you can get a price match if you show proof that you found a better offer elsewhere. Again, tough break for you if stores are not decent enough over there.

Reading your posts I noticed the you seem to be under the impression that Amanita did something bad by releasing their Bundle, which is an ADMIRABLE thing to do, considering developing costs for a game. And that the money is going for charity which, you might not know, is a noble goal.

My point has always been that since GOG claims having some of the best prices for online games and that the reason for the give away is still on, what incentive does GOG offer for people to get the game from them instead of getting the Bundle? The pleasure of knowing that for the same amount you could have gotten more stuff?

Now, for the last time, if you say anything about speaking to Amanita I will just assume that you are utterly incapable of english comprehension or are just the biggest fanboy this side of the ocean. If it is the first case, I can resort to writing in whatever language you desire. If it is the latter, then I'm just glad that you are not working as a PR for any company. There might be openings at Ocean Marketing, ask around.

You're taking this way too personal for someone not in the payroll of the company, mate
Post edited May 05, 2012 by simonarturo
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simonarturo: Snip
Show me one shop that do a price match ...just one. So far you've shown angryness at GOG for mistake done by others,nothing more.

None of the digital sellers or retail ones will even the price if something like that happens to them.

I don't need to be on a payroll at GOG to protect the service I like.

I want you to go to Steam forums and want a price match for Prototype 2,cause the retail price is cheaper by 10$ :)
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simonarturo: Snip
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spinefarm: Show me one shop that do a price match ...just one. So far you've shown angryness at GOG for mistake done by others,nothing more.

None of the digital sellers or retail ones will even the price if something like that happens to them.

I don't need to be on a payroll at GOG to protect the service I like.

I want you to go to Steam forums and want a price match for Prototype 2,cause the retail price is cheaper by 10$ :)
And that's where we differ. Right now I'm not liking the service, because I feel like I'm getting less than I should for the money I paid. I just hope it doesn't happen to you, lest you change your mind about their policies when they start affecting you instead of others.

As I told you before, I don't use Steam because I don't like what they offer and the way they do it, so I chose not to support them with my money. I'll just do the same for GOG unless they rethink the way they deal with discontent clients. And for argument's sake, justifying something by claiming that everyone else is doing it is just plain mediocre. It's like saying that because everyone is stealing on the street then it is not wrong to do so yourself.

For retailers that do price match, at the top of my head you've got Target and TigerDirect, both big companies that, while far from perfect, give you an incentive to use their services.

And I don't know about you, but so far I have used concrete and sound arguments to state my case, keeping a level head and not throwing angry retorts to anyone, specially GOG. That I don't agree with them on this issue is irrefutable, but that's far from being an immature person that just shuts out opinions that don't match their own.

You're complaining that I'm whining? Then yes, you might call it whining. I will call it being a PAYING CUSTOMER, for this and past games, trying to get what he thinks he's entitled to for the money he paid, which also allows me to express my discrepancy in however way I see fit.
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simonarturo: snip
http://sites.target.com/site/en/company/page.jsp?contentId=WCMP04-040400
When you put price matching as an argument read the policy first ;)

Humble Bundle comes as: Items advertised as limited time/limited supply/limited quantity

So any other argument to be blown in pieces?

p.s.
Is there a price match service on Amazon,Gamestop,GAME.com,Steam,GamersGate?
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gameon: snip
His issue is that he wants Machinarium + extras+Witcher 1 for any future purchase of Botanicula.
Post edited May 05, 2012 by spinefarm
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spinefarm: His issue is that he wants Machinarium + extras+Witcher 1 for any future purchase of Botanicula.
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gameon: Well if i was him, i'd have bought the humble bundle at a reasonable price and continued to buy other games on GOG. But thats just what i did.....
Yes it is simple like that :)
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gameon: Well if i was him, i'd have bought the humble bundle at a reasonable price and continued to buy other games on GOG. But thats just what i did.....
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spinefarm: Yes it is simple like that :)
It's so simple when you think in retrospect, but I did buy it from GOG instead of the Humble Bundle, because I didn't know about the Bundle in the first place and was trusting GOG to give me the best deal. Had I known, I would have given my $9 directly to Amanita for charity.

Alas, I did not, and I'm not happy with what I got.

For the record, I already played witcher EE and Machinarium some years ago, but it's the ethic of this transaction that gets me riled up. In other words, I feel like I got the boot. My money bought me less stuff that everyone else.

My point has always been: As long as the Humble Bundle is still on, every Botanicula customer from GOG should get some incentive because they are passing a clearly more advantageous deal in order to support GOG.
Post edited May 06, 2012 by simonarturo
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simonarturo: It's so simple when you think in retrospect, but I did buy it from GOG instead of the Humble Bundle, because I didn't know about the Bundle in the first place and was trusting GOG to give me the best deal. Had I known, I would have given my $9 directly to Amanita for charity.

Alas, I did not, and I'm not happy with what I got.
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gameon: Couldn't you have asked GOG to cancel your botanicula pre-order then? I didnt know about the humble bundle, but still managed to buy it.
Nope nope, I didn't pre-order. That's the issue here. I'm wondering why, if the Humble Bundle was the reason for the give-away, and it's still going on strong, it only applies for pre-oders? It should last until the Humble Bundle finishes.
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gameon: Couldn't you have asked GOG to cancel your botanicula pre-order then? I didnt know about the humble bundle, but still managed to buy it.
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simonarturo: Nope nope, I didn't pre-order. That's the issue here. I'm wondering why, if the Humble Bundle was the reason for the give-away, and it's still going on strong, it only applies for pre-oders? It should last until the Humble Bundle finishes.
Because after the release you have the option to buy it here or on Humble Bundle :) And so far you say that GOG have to give you something cause you didn't inform yourself before buying the game?

So by your logic so far: If I preorder a game from Steam/Amazon - and the game goes out cheaper on the release day they should:
A) give me back my money
B) give me the difference
C) show me the middle finger

Not a single seller no matter retail or digital make price match on promo/pre-order items. So yes your problem is with Amanita not with GOG :)

p.s.So far you didn't say anything about Term of use for pricematching on Target :) Or it is irrelevant now?
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simonarturo: Nope nope, I didn't pre-order. That's the issue here. I'm wondering why, if the Humble Bundle was the reason for the give-away, and it's still going on strong, it only applies for pre-oders? It should last until the Humble Bundle finishes.
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spinefarm: Because after the release you have the option to buy it here or on Humble Bundle :) And so far you say that GOG have to give you something cause you didn't inform yourself before buying the game?

So by your logic so far: If I preorder a game from Steam/Amazon - and the game goes out cheaper on the release day they should:
A) give me back my money
B) give me the difference
C) show me the middle finger

Not a single seller no matter retail or digital make price match on promo/pre-order items. So yes your problem is with Amanita not with GOG :)

p.s.So far you didn't say anything about Term of use for pricematching on Target :) Or it is irrelevant now?
Wow, Steam & Amazon must have traumatized you to such a degree that that's all you can talk about. Again, comparing yourself to the lowest denominator and abiding by what others do is mediocre. I support GOG because I thought they were better than all those services you are so fond of mentioning; so far I'm not happy.

I DID an uninformed purchase, because I didn't have the time to look around and trusted blindly that GOG would offer me the best deal, as they always claim. I was massively let down by them. Dunno about you, but when time is limited because of work or school, you don't have the kind of time to snoop around the internet trying to scrounge offers. You choose a vendor in which you trust and take the plunge. I know that if I had all the information I have right right now, I would not choose GOG to purchase Botanicula.

As I said, and it's getting tiresome, please read and TRY to understand, the only one trying to pick a bone here is you. I'm beginning to think you're just trying to get your post count up, stick to your one-trick pony, keep blaming Amanita, keep bringing up other vendors, keep trying to feel superior because you were not the one getting ripped-off this time and keep trying to read english that you undoubtedly can't understand.

The whole issue here has always been one: The reason for the give-away games (Humble Bundle) is still happening, so customers that still buy from GOG SHOULD (magic word, look it up) get whatever benefits applied in the first place. Gog didn't give those games away because of the goodwill in their hearts, it was only for stopping people from getting pissed off because they got less than others who paid the same money (or even less) than them. Guess what? People are still getting pissed off, just in lesser quantities because almost everyone is buying directly from Amanita.

So, about your whole "oh I found one sentence that I'm gonna exploit because I don't have any more serious reasoning" Target bit. My point is that the time for the promo, as you claim it to be (we all know that it was only a strategy to keep the company from getting flamed), doesn't reflect the fact that the original reason for said offer is still going on. So there you go.

And I'm just gonna be the bigger person here and end this, it's getting pointless and frankly a waste of time. You're obviously too full of yourself to try and think outside your shell. I gave you far more attention than you deserved and you failed to bring to the discussion new arguments.. Keep repeating the same stuff over and over and maybe it will become your new truth. I will just ask you that, in the same manner I've shown you respect, you will do the same and refrain from pointless immature bashing. Anyway, I will not deign to answer any more of your provocations or false truths that you're so fond of quoting.

Hope you live a long life and learn to deal with people that don't share your points of view, it will be a great lesson for you.
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simonarturo: snip
FFS I put Steam and Amazon as a bigger digital sellers than GOG. And they don't do this for pre-orders/promos.

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simonarturo: I DID an uninformed purchase, because I didn't have the time to look around and trusted blindly that GOG would offer me the best deal, as they always claim.
GOG have the same price as everybody selling the game...besides Humble Bundle. Yet they don't say what the price is... the descision for it is made by Amanita Design.

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simonarturo: Gog didn't give those games away because of the goodwill in their hearts, it was only for stopping people from getting pissed off because they got less than others who paid the same money (or even less) than them
GOG give those games away cause they respect their customers for pre-ordering the game from them. They weren't obligated to do that by any Term Of Use in their service. And from giving away those they loose potential sales on Machinarium/Witcher 1 + the potential sales of Botanicula because of the HIB... yeah bad bad GOG'ers.... they should burn in hell.

Your point will be correct if GOG.com/CDPR are the publishers of the game.

I repeat the same stuff...cause either you don't read... or there is something wrong in your mind.

So be the "bigger" person and stop with all the hate :)
Post edited May 06, 2012 by spinefarm
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simonarturo: I DID an uninformed purchase, because I didn't have the time to look around and trusted blindly that GOG would offer me the best deal, as they always claim.
The 'deal' is fair - the price is the same on Gamersgate and (excluding the bundle) on the Amanita website.

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simonarturo: The reason for the give-away games (Humble Bundle) is still happening
That is not correct.

GOG was blindsided as much as anybody when Aminita included Botanicula, on release, in a 'pay what you want' bundle.

Amanita seems to have made virtually no effort to announce to anybody that the game would be included in a bundle, and GOG offered the pre-order in good faith.

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simonarturo: The reason for the give-away games (Humble Bundle) is still happening
The reason for the giveaway was the inclusion of the game in a bundle without prior notification.

Now that the dust has settled, people can make their own, informed, choice.

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simonarturo: I know that if I had all the information I have right right now, I would not choose GOG to purchase Botanicula.
Nobody had the information when the pre-orders were offered.

If GOG and GG had known beforehand what Amanita intended they may have taken steps to avoid the problem.

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simonarturo: it was only for stopping people from getting pissed off because they got less than others who paid the same money (or even less) than them.
People were pissed off because they'd paid $9 via pre-order for a game that on release was included in a bundle that could be brought for 1c.

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simonarturo: Guess what? People are still getting pissed off, just in lesser quantities because almost everyone is buying directly from Amanita.
GOG has a contract with Amanita, which would includ the retail price.

Or are you saying that GOG should possibly take a loss with each sale ?
Post edited May 06, 2012 by Kezardin