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spinefarm: Enough with the f**king RCT3 it is cheaper than all the Digital Distributors. It is cheaper than retail in USA ... So enough with this already... Quake 3 Arena is from 2007 and it is 19.99euro... so? Modern Warfare 1 is from 2007 - 24.99 euro... Call Of Duty 2 is 2006 and it is 19.99 euro....
And stop mixing Digital with Retail...
No it's not cheaper, Amazon has the box for $18. And significantly less if you're willing to go used. And ultimately it does make a difference, I'd generally rather have a box set anyways than a digital download, digital downloads are about price and convenience, so it very much does matter if you can get a physical copy for less.

Anybody that's willing to pay $30 to Atari or Steam doesn't know that they can get the digital download from Amazon for like $22 or $23 so it's definitely not worth $30, at least in the US.
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Kezardin: Considered the possibility that companies with large back catalogs may retain the right to specify a number of games that a seller like GOG has to take ?

And someone considers RCT3 may be worth even more, since the list price is $30 on Steem and the Atari store.
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hedwards: And has been posted quite a few times, those prices are ridiculously high as there are boxed retail copies to be had for less than what GOG is charging and less than what Steam and Atari are charging.

What's more, I highly doubt that GOG has no other options of games to release or was foolish enough to sign an agreement like that as they would have no way of knowing how many of those games they could get working well enough to release.
No official retail shop sells it for less than 20$. Atari is selling it for 30$ Retail ;)
And btw:
$17.95 is the price from a reseller ;)
the normal price provided by Amazon.com - $23.16
Post edited May 09, 2012 by spinefarm
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hedwards: Why single out indies though? They were willing to bend their rules to give us RCT3, but in this case they won't bend them to give a new game that's possibly better?

I can buy a copy of Xenonauts elsewhere and have it DRM free, so that's not a problem, but what is a problem is the selective spine that Mr. Gog has been showing lately. Sometimes we don't get goodies, sometimes the price is above what it should be. It really detracts from the faith that the community placed in them early on and I'm not really sure what to think.
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spinefarm: Enough with the f**king RCT3 it is cheaper than all the Digital Distributors. It is cheaper than retail in USA ... So enough with this already... Quake 3 Arena is from 2007 and it is 19.99euro... so? Modern Warfare 1 is from 2007 - 24.99 euro... Call Of Duty 2 is 2006 and it is 19.99 euro....
And stop mixing Digital with Retail...
I don't exactly understand your rant Spinefarm. If you live out in the middle of know where its not like you can just buy it at a store for 15.99. Also at least in Canada every EB games i've seen has turned into a console store heaven (No or Hardly any computer games). Digital distribution is by far the cheapest solution for me. The steam version is also more expensive then the GOG version. GOG $19.99 vs. Steam at $30. Retail would probably be the most expensive for me considering gas prices haha, providing I could even find it, ordering a boxed version online would also be expensive for me.
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hedwards: And has been posted quite a few times, those prices are ridiculously high as there are boxed retail copies to be had for less than what GOG is charging and less than what Steam and Atari are charging.
The price isn't great, but whoever set it at $30 obviously doesn't give a toss about alternatives. The decision has been made - maybe they sell a few copies, maybe none. Maybe it sell like hotcakes during sales.

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hedwards: What's more, I highly doubt that GOG has no other options of games to release or was foolish enough to sign an agreement like that as they would have no way of knowing how many of those games they could get working well enough to release.
I'm not saying GOG has no options - what I'm suggesting is the IP holder may be able to nominate *some* of the games.
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begolf00: snip
My rant is that nobody is crying over the "normal" overpicing of other older games on digital distributors. GOG are competing with other digital sellers and their price is better than all of them.


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spinefarm: Uhh sorry but this game looks like a Facebook game... 10 bucks is the tops and that is even too much. Indie developers are getting greedy every day.
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lowyhong: Why? Just because it's an isometric game? They spent over 2 years developing this game. There's nothing wrong if you think it's expensive, but how is asking for $25 greedy?
No ...it just looks bad for that price. A lot of the Indie games are developed for 2-3 years... and yet this guys are greedy than others.

If you are not a fan of X-Com series - will you give 25$ for this game? Or you will cry: GOG how could you release an indie game for 25$....
Post edited May 09, 2012 by spinefarm
Good. GOG shouldn't be selling games for above $10 at all.
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Foxhack: What promo? New releases on GOG are typically 10% off. The game was barely released there, so...
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spinefarm: Uh steam codes from HIB? And sudenly HIB ends Botanicula showed up on Steam with 10% off ... nice ;)
As I said, THE GAME WAS BARELY RELEASED THERE. Humble Bundle owners got it a week early. That's it. The same thing has happened with other games, like Scoregasm, Hack Slash Loot and Really Big Sky.
It's nice to get confirmation that GOG is indeed trying to convince developers and publishers to agree to reasonable prices.

Pity that the makers of Xenonauts didn't allow themselves to be convinced. It seems to me that GOG's prediction of which price the market will allow for a product like Xenonauts is much more realistic than that of the developers.
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spinefarm: Uhh sorry but this game looks like a Facebook game... 10 bucks is the tops and that is even too much. Indie developers are getting greedy every day.

For instance: Grim Dawn - 18$,Republique - 15$,Double Fine - 15$,Wasteland 2 - 15$,Shadowrun - 15$ and at least couple more are asking for less.... and they look better and will be better games.

So for what reason this game deserves 25$???? Or gamers are cows that should be milked by everybody who wants to get rich...
$25 is milking gamers? Do you even realize how much regular games cost?

That said, Xenonauts can be preordered $20 from Kickstarter. The regular non-Kickstarter prices of Grim Dawn, Shadowrun, Wasteland are all $20 at least. None of these games will be accepted by GOG due to their dumb policy, because they are all independently-developed games costing more than $15.
When was the last time that I bought a game for $25?
Fuck knows. Developers are welcome to offer games here for one million bazillion dollars, but I shall not be a part of the target audience.
I like the $5.99 and $9.99 pricing points on GOG and despite that, most of my purchases are from GOGs on sale, as well as from Steam sales.
So go ahead and pick your pricing point, because if it's under a tenner, I'm unlikely to buy it.
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spinefarm: A lot of the Indie games are developed for 2-3 years... and yet this guys are greedy than others.
Like?

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spinefarm: Or you will cry: GOG how could you release an indie game for 25$....
Why will I do that?
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Psyringe: It's nice to get confirmation that GOG is indeed trying to convince developers and publishers to agree to reasonable prices.

Pity that the makers of Xenonauts didn't allow themselves to be convinced. It seems to me that GOG's prediction of which price the market will allow for a product like Xenonauts is much more realistic than that of the developers.
Developers have bills to pay too. Until the game is released it's hard to say how reasonable $25 is, but it's hardly as unreasonable as some prices are.

Refusing to charge more than $15 for a new game is hardly something that's going to convince publishers to release their games here until they've already been price cut everywhere else.

It may be that they would make more money by dropping the price down to $15, but $25 is hardly gouging for a new game, especially if it has the kind of scope that it appears to have.
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spinefarm: Uhh sorry but this game looks like a Facebook game... 10 bucks is the tops and that is even too much. Indie developers are getting greedy every day.
Are you kidding? I want Xenonauts to be very much on GoG, and it doesn't look like a Facebook game. If you've played the original X-COM you'll know the differences. I'm not trying to be optimistic about Firaxis's remake of X-COM and if it fails, at least I have Xenonauts to fall back to. If it's good, 2 X-COM remakes is gonna be even more awesome.
Post edited May 09, 2012 by cw8
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doady: $25 is milking gamers? Do you even realize how much regular games cost?

That said, Xenonauts can be preordered $20 from Kickstarter. The regular non-Kickstarter prices of Grim Dawn, Shadowrun, Wasteland are all $20 at least. None of these games will be accepted by GOG due to their dumb policy, because they are all independently-developed games costing more than $15.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. These sorts of blanket policies really only make sense when they extend to everything. Having older games being sold for $20 that happen to have been produced by a major studio makes no sense and some indie games are genuinely worth more than $20. Especially new ones.

I don't know if I'll be buying a copy of the game any time soon, but this blanket policy if it proves to be the case is just wrongheaded. It should apply just as much to major studio releases as it does to indie releases if it's that important.

AC is another example, I bought it for $20 years ago, but it's here now for $20, which is 25% more than what they're apparently wiling to sell a new indie title for, whether or not it's worth the money.
I don't know what the big deal is, really. If it's available DRM-free elsewhere, why does it matter?