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RafaelRamus: [...]
"It has come to our attention that there is some ongoing controversy regarding the game Devotion and the Chinese market. We are analyzing the situation and we have decided to not release the game right now because of this and we have no new release date in sight."
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ahh, you want fluff and managment speak.... that sentense there say abolutly the same as what gOg already have said, but with more words... the meaning is the same
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RafaelRamus: [...]
"It has come to our attention that there is some ongoing controversy regarding the game Devotion and the Chinese market. We are analyzing the situation and we have decided to not release the game right now because of this and we have no new release date in sight."
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amok: ahh, you want fluff and managment speak.... that sentense there say abolutly the same as what gOg already have said, but with more words... the meaning is the same
No, it isn't. What GOG said was this:

Gamers asked us to remove the game and we did it. Have a nice day.

That's all they said and that's low. Really low.
Post edited December 21, 2020 by RafaelRamus
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amok: no, my point is only bout "gamers", as you all assume that there are no "gamers", while there may be some as well

If I tried to put myself in their shoes, I would have gently put my arm aorund gOg's shoulder and said: "listen, mate, I know this is not the right thing to do, but if you go through with this, there is a chance that Winnie may find out and he may block you here. If they do, then I lose access to my collection, I can not buy any gamers from you anymore, and I can no longer get updates, and I just bought CP2077, for Frigg's sake, it would take at least two years before it is patched up to a playable state. Can't you, you know, not do this? Please?"

so yes, there may have been some response from people who actually play games in China as well, who would not like to see this happening. Things are most likely mot as black and white as you want them to be, but there are many shades of grey as well...
The premise you are presenting there is not the connotation that is implicit within GOG's "many gamers" tweet of lies.

Rather, the connotation they are purporting is that the fictional "many gamers" were greatly offended by the existence of the game, and therefore wanted it not to be published anywhere solely because they hate that it exists and loathe the idea that anyone should be able to play it.

As for your statement that they would "lose their GOG collection" were GOG to be banned in China: that's not correct; no they wouldn't. So long as GOG doesn't ban their account (which isn't something that is on the table in this scenario we are discussing), then their collection would still exist and is still be available to them.

Should GOG be 'banned 'in China, then they would nevetheless easily be able to access all the games on their GOG account, simply by using a VPN, which they already should be using anyway for many other reasons too, regardless of if they are GOG customers or not.

In other words, it's not really possible for China literally to 'ban' people there from accessing GOG, as there are easy workarounds for any supposed 'ban' that might take place.
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amok: no, my point is only bout "gamers", as you all assume that there are no "gamers", while there may be some as well

If I tried to put myself in their shoes, I would have gently put my arm aorund gOg's shoulder and said: "listen, mate, I know this is not the right thing to do, but if you go through with this, there is a chance that Winnie may find out and he may block you here. If they do, then I lose access to my collection, I can not buy any gamers from you anymore, and I can no longer get updates, and I just bought CP2077, for Frigg's sake, it would take at least two years before it is patched up to a playable state. Can't you, you know, not do this? Please?"

so yes, there may have been some response from people who actually play games in China as well, who would not like to see this happening. Things are most likely mot as black and white as you want them to be, but there are many shades of grey as well...
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: The premise you are presenting there is not the connotation that is implicit within GOG's "many gamers" tweet of lies.

Rather, the connotation they are purporting is that the fictional "many gamers" were greatly offended by the existence of the game, and therefore wanted it not to be published anywhere solely because they hate that it exists and loathe the idea that anyone should be able to play it.

As for your statement that they would "lose their GOG collection" were GOG to be banned in China: that's not correct; no they wouldn't. So long as GOG doesn't ban their account (which isn't something that is on the table in this scenario we are discussing), then their collection would still exist and is still be available to them.

Should GOG be 'banned 'in China, then they would nevetheless easily be able to access all the games on their GOG account, simply by using a VPN, which they already should be using anyway for many other reasons too, regardless of if they are GOG customers or not.

In other words, it's not really possible for China literally to 'ban' people there from accessing GOG, as there are easy workarounds for any supposed 'ban' that might take place.
umm..... being blocked by the great firewall of china is not the same as being banned....

edit- anyway, this is why Valve is working on a speareate Chinese client which is divorced from the Steam client
Post edited December 21, 2020 by amok