Turned out the RP Event whas yesterday where I could not log in.
So I bump the discussion now with this offtopic statement and just say, from my opinion a third party could be called neutral too.
Despite this is not really topic either. Happy arguing.

Glad you can see it.

And this post could be either scum!trent trying to throw shade on town!flub, scum!trent trying to distance from scum!flub, or town!trent looking for scum.

Of course for now I see it as more likely to be the last one....pray I don't alter the deal(lean). o.0 ;)

(The above end bit of the last line is a joke, in case anyone didn't get that)

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(Boomp plox if anyone could be so kind)

So it wasn't an IRL meetup?

Those can be so much fun

(Not that i'd know....never having been to one....or had many friends growing up :|)
(Song starts at 0:35)

On mobile, flavour will come separately

Vote count

Blotunga 1 - Pooka
GH 2 - trent, blotunga
Vitek 3 - catte, korotan, Engerek
Trent 2 - Joe, flubb
Joe 1 - Vitek
Flubb 1 - Zfr

Not voting: hunter, GH, dedo, bucktooth

Vitek is in the lead at L-5

The Day will end tomorrow evening. So in about 22 hours, give or take two hours. I was asked pre-game not to make the Night span the weekend. (Actually it was the condition under which one player could sign up)

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The sun is slowly setting in the west and makes it look like the wasteland is on fire. It is rather pretty, that red glow, even though it reminds you of fire. And of the fact that your time is running out. Night will fall soon, and who knows what those hidden fanatics will do at Night?
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Also, if anyone wants a message sent to anyone else at Night, now would be the time to raise the 'Messenger needed' flag. I.e. if you want to send a message to someone, send the message to me, at the latest tomorrow night, 24h European time, and tell me who it is intended for. If you are lucky, it may reach its recipient.

As I mentioned earlier, I suspected Trent and Vitek were waiting in ambush, waiting for the perfect moment to lead to a mislynch. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are both scum. So when a wagon was slowly building over trent, Vitek's sudden involvement improved my suspicions.

I believe there is a voting part in these survivor games where players vote against each other. They write their names on a paper and show to the screen saying "I love you Henry but you suck, sorry you have to go..." I've never really watched a survivor show so I may be wrong.

Deflecting may not be the correct wording and I said "ready" not "trying". As in, you do not want it but you will not hesitate to do it if it comes to it. Just a feeling.

Carefully crafted for what purpose?

I know ZFR already touched on this, but I also am not a fan of treating people as a different alignment based on the fact that their night actions could accidentally benefit the wrong side, our PMs designate which side we are on for a reason(at least mine did, can't speak for anyone else I guess).

Also, I looked at the posts you reference for catte and...im not seeing anything damning. As much as I take trents claim with a grain of salt, if they are bluffing there is no denying that they're taking a HUGE gamble of either such role not being in play, or having the person who counter-claims being less believed.

If something more specific about the posts concern you, id be interested in taking another look. Right now it just looks like a quick attempt to find someone to switch your vote to since our trent wagon was drawing scrutiny, your vote in particular.

Strong reasoning based on intuition. :-)

Town Joe I feel is looking for who is scum and when he is mafia he is looking for weak reasoning to jump on any existing wagon and I feel like it is exactly what he is doing here.


So for most of the people it is just his interaction with ZFR that they find lynch-worthy. Color me unimpressed.

(Cue your meme)


Yeah, I don't want to do that because so far I was shown no convincing reason to.


As for the claim analysis *shrug*.
Unless mafia were given fake claim, it's more likely town claim because from decription in sign-up thread I see it described as town one.

And if we were to speculate about flavour and take the claim at face value I would say shape-shifting mutants wouldn't be robots. But no, let's not base anything on flavour, please (I had to mention it, though). :-)

I've got to say it sucks if both my main suspects are fully or mostly absent.

It seems like an attempt to appear town as well as say something without actually committing to a specific position.

With that in mind remember I said it wasn't a good feeling. The initial reading of the posts gave me pause and I wanted to document it while it was fresh. Whether is has any merit is what I will hopefully discern over time.


Please see above comment.

My thoughts regarding trentonlf's role claim have little to do with my reasons for Voting him. I did Vote him before he claimed. I did comment on the actual role claim simply as opinion.

I am also not looking for any reason to switch my Vote. It's Day One so I'm looking for a player who is acting scummy...and I will continue to do so. my name is vaughlte catte is merely a lurker who has caught my attention with a couple of comments.

A PR is a PR, so scum might target it anyway, or at least that's what I'd do.

As for why I think he's not lying, the claim fits, and I haven't seen any counterclaims. I'm not sure how safe claims work - if Lift has given scum such, but from what he shared with us and what I have about myself, it does fit, even though he didn't mentioned robots.

I think we have discussed several times that no-lynch on d1 is worse than a mislynch.

So why are you hinting at a PR? What's the purpose for this? Do you want us to leave you alone because of it? While I don't have much experience, hinting at PRs I think is usually found scummy. Especially when there is no need for such.

Wtf is POTU?

So done with the re-read. I still find trent's claim plausible.
At this point I also seem to find the zfr/joe/flub trio most interesting, I do have a feeling there might be a scum there somewhere - nothing definite, just gut feel. Thoughts?

PS: thanks for the best wishes, wife is better now, seems like it was just some sort of food related nausea.

I don't know.

The dramatic flair at the beginning of post #534 (Yeah, this is bad) is a bit hyperbolic.

My first thought was an attempt to exaggerate my post in order to make any point made against trentonlf seem scummy. I'm more inclined to think now it was merely designed to generate Votes on me.

By the way, your Vote is a little dubious. (he's got one vote so) /lame