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Bookwyrm627: That entire conversation is entirely separate from the conversation that began with my call for any Masons to claim their role, which includes your factually incorrect comment about 3 masons being impossible. My "Scene will call you town" is linked solely to the bit about 3 masons being impossible.
I submit to that. I was under the very solid impression that a 3rd Mason is only an Innocent child and then they start to pair up. I entirely missed the line about 3 set masons. From there I misread your line about Scene as I was reading in with a very different context in minid. I only saw the 3 masons team bit after gogtrial reiterated it.


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GameRager: Because I only vote for possible/likely scum when I know they have a good chance of getting lynched...else why even bother voting?
Is that how you play? And you say you have played before? Are you sure?!


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GameRager: 2. True, which is why I voted him today.
When you say "today" you mean in this post (technically it's 2 back but those were bumps you requested so it's effectively the same post) and only after you started getting heat?

And now you hint at stuff and talk about losing advantage? What??
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GameRager: Because I only vote for possible/likely scum when I know they have a good chance of getting lynched...else why even bother voting?
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dedoporno: Is that how you play? And you say you have played before? Are you sure?!


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GameRager: 2. True, which is why I voted him today.
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dedoporno: When you say "today" you mean in this post (technically it's 2 back but those were bumps you requested so it's effectively the same post) and only after you started getting heat?

And now you hint at stuff and talk about losing advantage? What??
1. Yes that is how In play, and I have played before(I forget the game number but I do remember some stuff about it like how In played/what I was in game). Feel free to look it up if you have time.

2. I meant today as in today IRL. I also said I would vote for scene if a wagon was formed and I did.

Also you don't find it odd that scene shifted the focus onto me instead of debating how/where I was wrong in my assertions against him?

As for the the hints, suffice it to say that we are now in a similar(though not the same 100%) situation as when I last played(i.e. I was important to town and they lynched me and lost that advantage when they found out what I was later on). I would say more but I am not sure how much of my PM/info I am allowed to share without mod approval.
BTW ALL: I am going to go offline(though I don't log off usually when doing so) in an hour or so so if anyone wants to analyze posts 540-541 and 543 and reply to them and wants replies back they have until 1 hour from now unless one wants to wait for a reply until later tomorrow sometime.
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Bookwyrm627: ...........<snip>.............
In Game #23, mason claims were very effective.

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Microfish_1: @Gamerager, Flub is ALWAYS hard to read...except when he turns into a book. Books are good. Be one, please. What would your spine say? The hidden index in the back? What would it say under "mafia" and "alignment"?
Care to let anyone snoop?

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@gamerager: I'll help you out.

For all reasons which have been enumerated by others, I cannot see Joe as scum...yet.

@mod vote Vitamin-Pill Scene
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GameRager: 1. Yeah, he(she?) seems that way.

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DID YOU JUST ASSUME I HAVE A GENDER?!?!?!?!?!
ummm. Yes? maybe?
'`` the use, in formal English, of he, him or his as a gender-neutral pronoun has traditionally been considered grammatically correct...```
My two cents, and it's probably not even worth that much. All of these reads I am going to give are all based more on gut and the overall feel of posts versus any concrete posts I can refer too.

Not voting today unless something extraordinary happens because I believe they are town

1. As much as it pains me, supplementscene.
2. Gamerager, even though he is the leading wagon, and from his posts I believe him that his lynch would be a mistake.
3. Gogtrial, if he's scum I'll tip my hat to him as he has me fooled because everything I see is him trying to figure things out.
4. bookwyrm, same as Gogtrial.

My top belief for scum
flubbucket, his play for me is just off enough that I think he is scum. He gives very little away in his posts, but I find him to be more aggressive in his play that is hidden behind his humor.

If there are two scum left my second pick is dedoporno. As with flub dedo has felt off just enough that he doesn't feel like Town dedo.

Everyone else I have ranged between probably town to maybe scum.

Unvote Microfish
Vote flubbucket
I did an ISO of Flub (and need to do them of others)

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1st post with meaning

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trentonlf: My top belief for scum
flubbucket, his play for me is just off enough that I think he is scum. He gives very little away in his posts, but I find him to be more aggressive in his play that is hidden behind his humor.

If there are two scum left my second pick is dedoporno. As with flub dedo has felt off just enough that he doesn't feel like Town dedo.

Everyone else I have ranged between probably town to maybe scum.

Vote flubbucket
OMGUS from Trent? (See 476, linked above)
Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

GameRager 3 - scene, flub, Bookwyrm
scene 2 - Micro, GameRager
flub 1 - trent

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: JoeSapphire, Pooka, gogtrial, dedo

10 players left. It takes 6 to lynch.
GameRager is closest at L-3
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GameRager: Also you don't find it odd that scene shifted the focus onto me instead of debating how/where I was wrong in my assertions against him?
To be honest, no I don't. I'm sorry but your play just isn't saying "Town". Let's assume for a moment that you are indeed Town and he is scum. In the vacuum of this situation he has the right to focus you as your play makes no sense from Town's perspective and the worst part is that you are feeding the scum a free reasonable reason to attack you. While endangering a potential power, too. It just makes no sense.

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trentonlf: My two cents, and it's probably not even worth that much. All of these reads I am going to give are all based more on gut and the overall feel of posts versus any concrete posts I can refer too.

Not voting today unless something extraordinary happens because I believe they are town

1. As much as it pains me, supplementscene.
2. Gamerager, even though he is the leading wagon, and from his posts I believe him that his lynch would be a mistake.
3. Gogtrial, if he's scum I'll tip my hat to him as he has me fooled because everything I see is him trying to figure things out.
4. bookwyrm, same as Gogtrial.

My top belief for scum
flubbucket, his play for me is just off enough that I think he is scum. He gives very little away in his posts, but I find him to be more aggressive in his play that is hidden behind his humor.

If there are two scum left my second pick is dedoporno. As with flub dedo has felt off just enough that he doesn't feel like Town dedo.

Everyone else I have ranged between probably town to maybe scum.

Unvote Microfish
Vote flubbucket
You are now starting to freak me out. Specifically about scene and GR. The on and off with scene is getting crazier and crazier and I don't understand how you can give GR a pass like that.

For gog I agree with your assessment. I think wyrm as well.

Not so sure about flub.

For myself - you not the first one to see me as off so I guess I am off but that isn't because I'm scum since I'm not.
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GameRager: 1. Yeah, he(she?) seems that way.

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flubbucket: DID YOU JUST ASSUME I HAVE A GENDER?!?!?!?!?!
Dammit you got me....I forgot it, they, and attack helicopter. o.0

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GameRager: Also you don't find it odd that scene shifted the focus onto me instead of debating how/where I was wrong in my assertions against him?
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dedoporno: To be honest, no I don't. I'm sorry but your play just isn't saying "Town". Let's assume for a moment that you are indeed Town and he is scum. In the vacuum of this situation he has the right to focus you as your play makes no sense from Town's perspective and the worst part is that you are feeding the scum a free reasonable reason to attack you. While endangering a potential power, too. It just makes no sense.

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trentonlf: My two cents, and it's probably not even worth that much. All of these reads I am going to give are all based more on gut and the overall feel of posts versus any concrete posts I can refer too.

Not voting today unless something extraordinary happens because I believe they are town

1. As much as it pains me, supplementscene.
2. Gamerager, even though he is the leading wagon, and from his posts I believe him that his lynch would be a mistake.
3. Gogtrial, if he's scum I'll tip my hat to him as he has me fooled because everything I see is him trying to figure things out.
4. bookwyrm, same as Gogtrial.

My top belief for scum
flubbucket, his play for me is just off enough that I think he is scum. He gives very little away in his posts, but I find him to be more aggressive in his play that is hidden behind his humor.

If there are two scum left my second pick is dedoporno. As with flub dedo has felt off just enough that he doesn't feel like Town dedo.

Everyone else I have ranged between probably town to maybe scum.

Unvote Microfish
Vote flubbucket
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dedoporno: You are now starting to freak me out. Specifically about scene and GR. The on and off with scene is getting crazier and crazier and I don't understand how you can give GR a pass like that.

For gog I agree with your assessment. I think wyrm as well.

Not so sure about flub.

For myself - you not the first one to see me as off so I guess I am off but that isn't because I'm scum since I'm not.
1. As I said this is how I play as town/in general. Go look at my previous games(which I have pointed out for others to do to prove such several times) if you want, or just ignore it and vote blindly.

2. So now you are not only disregarding what I said about checking out my past play style/other comments and basically throwing shade on another player for not voting for me? Hiding something perhaps?
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gogtrial34987: ... and you're now newly suspicious for SPF's behaviour toward you (though of course SPF might've expected you to be lynched, and thus wanted to claim town-points for having defended you; isn't WIFOM just the best?))....
Did SirP defend supplementscene? I need to re-read this game.

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dedoporno: ... I hope this puts us both on the same page at least on this particular bit as it's starting to get distracting and boring (to myself at least)....
I'm not finding it boring! Please continue

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PookaMustard: If he's town, it's bad play and would end up with a mislynch. His Joe vote reminds me of myself in Captain Sapphire when I suggested one of ZFR or trent be lynched to confirm the other's alignment. I was summarily lynched the same Day I suggested the idea; except GR's suggestion happens even earlier and just comes out of nowhere. "Scene voted Joe, let's vote Joe to see if scene is really town!"
But... you were town in that example...

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JoeSapphire: It's a sort of joke stemming from EleButterfly misreading the word a few games back - but also I use it because once the filters at my work picked up on something I'd written in the game and got me flagged up by some senior staff to explain why I was talking about killing cops. So LUNCH is less likely to set off any weird scanners or whatever too.

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Hm. Well I'm fairly sure scene is town, so that prospect isn't too reassuring for me.
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GameRager: 1. Good to know, but why not say Linch as it sounds similar and wouldn't set off the filters/etc? :)
Uh. Because that's not at all fun?

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gogtrial34987: Nothing is certain, but all the same, I'm feeling pretty good about calling Microfish, PookaMustard and GameRager likely town. flub and dedo are also on the likelier town side of things based on this.
historically, SirP and GameRager have been on a mafia team together. As it's been described to me GameRager invented a role and self-destructed for no reason... it's a reason for sirp to be wary about interacting with hypothetically-mafia gamerager.



Sorry I've been away. I've been busy at work with performances and I'm struggling a little to catch up. The final show is tonight so I'll try and make some time for mafia. Sorry guys.

Right. Before I get back to work I should vote someone. Scene I think is town, bookwyrm too, and I think I still trust gogtrial. gamerager is possible but still I think I leaning town with him. I'm a little weirded out by microfish today, and I'm not sure SirP would go out of his way to address microfish day 1 just because they were on a team. Would microfish avoid SirP though?...
who's left? Flub I could vote, trent too, and dedo,

pooka I have leaning town and there's one more player....

uuhh o_o

oh yeah it was carr who was also died... phew.

right, vote by process-of-elimination:

vote dedo
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GameRager: 1. Good to know, but why not say Linch as it sounds similar and wouldn't set off the filters/etc? :)
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JoeSapphire: Uh. Because that's not at all fun?

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gogtrial34987: Nothing is certain, but all the same, I'm feeling pretty good about calling Microfish, PookaMustard and GameRager likely town. flub and dedo are also on the likelier town side of things based on this.
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JoeSapphire: historically, SirP and GameRager have been on a mafia team together. As it's been described to me GameRager invented a role and self-destructed for no reason... it's a reason for sirp to be wary about interacting with hypothetically-mafia gamerager.


Sorry I've been away. I've been busy at work with performances and I'm struggling a little to catch up. The final show is tonight so I'll try and make some time for mafia. Sorry guys.

Right. Before I get back to work I should vote someone. Scene I think is town, bookwyrm too, and I think I still trust gogtrial. gamerager is possible but still I think I leaning town with him. I'm a little weirded out by microfish today, and I'm not sure SirP would go out of his way to address microfish day 1 just because they were on a team. Would microfish avoid SirP though?...
who's left? Flub I could vote, trent too, and dedo,

pooka I have leaning town and there's one more player....

uuhh o_o

oh yeah it was carr who was also died... phew.

right, vote by process-of-elimination:

vote dedo
1. Ok then

2. In that game iirc I invented a role because I was trying not to let much info on my actual role slip in that prior game...it backfired and drew suspicion on me as a result.

3. Why do you think scene is town? Also are you voting dedo from your possible scum list at random? Just checking.
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GameRager: 3. Why do you think scene is town? Also are you voting dedo from your possible scum list at random? Just checking.
yeah that's right.

I had a think about it and I recalled how dedo has said "Joe feels like town to me this game" [interpolated], after he said a few times last game "Joe feels off to me" or whatever it was, and he's right both times.

If he's mafia what would his reason be for saying this? To make me trust him?

Well it doesn't make me trust him! It makes me want him to die! How dare he read me so easily!

So what's that? Dedo's therefore town?

^ can someone explain my own logic to me?

unvote dedo

vote flub
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GameRager: 2. So now you are not only disregarding what I said about checking out my past play style/other comments and basically throwing shade on another player for not voting for me? Hiding something perhaps?
That's a very weak argument.

You keep referencing to those old games of your but never bothered to even point out their numbers or links. If you think I'll just go and look for them on my own I'll have to disappoint you. Unless you are counting on that in the first place.

Additionally, I don't have to check anything in previous games as I honestly don't care nor have time for it. We are playing in the current game and that's what matters to me right now. I can rely on old meta for the people I've played with but that's just an added bonus, nothing more. This is our first game together and it will probably serve me for future reference but for now everything I know about you is based on your current behavior and actions.

Even if you have played in a similar way before that in no way proves that the situation is the same this time. Just like blotunga said he was purposefully trying to play a non-AI game so his future games can make use of it (which is so pro-self but so anti-Town) there is no way for me to know that you didn't draw the scum card this time and are trying to keep the same pattern and appearances to look consistent as before so you can bring that up as some sort of defense.

And finally, if you truly are Town like you were in the games you referenced I sincerely recommend you take a step back and reconsider your "Town" play.

But I don't think you are Town.

vote GameRager


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JoeSapphire: ^ can someone explain my own logic to me?
Your logic is entirely false but you're correct anyway - I'm indeed Town.
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flubbucket: DID YOU JUST ASSUME I HAVE A GENDER?!?!?!?!?!
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GameRager: Dammit you got me....I forgot it, they, and attack helicopter. o.0

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No problem.

I actually identify as flatulent. And I prefer the personal pronoun "toot."


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trentonlf: ..............

My top belief for scum
flubbucket, his play for me is just off enough that I think he is scum. He gives very little away in his posts, but I find him to be more aggressive in his play that is hidden behind his humor.

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You absolutely should not leench me because I'll not have a chance to investigate as a cop and also I'll not have a chance to stop a Night Kill as a doctor if I'm launched.


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JoeSapphire: .............

^ can someone explain my own logic to me?
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Yes.