Posted April 23, 2011
If not, it's very scummy that you unvoted but you're not voting him, since it's likely that one of you is town and the other scum.
Vote Nazarush
If not, it's very scummy that you unvoted but you're not voting him, since it's likely that one of you is town and the other scum.
Vote Nazarush
Posted April 23, 2011
If not, it's very scummy that you unvoted but you're not voting him, since it's likely that one of you is town and the other scum.
Vote Nazarush
you will get my vote when 2 other people vote againist him.
Posted April 23, 2011
(I'm having trouble deciding which, as both have plusses and minuses against them, as both have been somewhat quiet and not many posts overall.)
i can vote againist both :P
Posted April 23, 2011
Hehe! Yeah although that means you'd probably ave a vote on a Mafia, you'd have one on a townie too. I'd wait until Baz gets back before voting though, and definitely not before Naz has a chance to speak too. And hopefully Vitek comes to claim.
I was thinking Naz was speaking the truth at first, but I think Typhoon had no holes in his story so far either (from what I know a governor as, anyway). He did indeed get the post in between Damnation's lynch and the actual death scene between twilight, so he could actually have done that.. and similarly Naz has very plausible actions too.
Was there a reason why you picked Ghost and Typhoon as your inspect target on those days, Nazarush?
Btw, I can confirm Typhoon was offline on the Gog forum by the time I came on and posted my #494 above.
I was thinking Naz was speaking the truth at first, but I think Typhoon had no holes in his story so far either (from what I know a governor as, anyway). He did indeed get the post in between Damnation's lynch and the actual death scene between twilight, so he could actually have done that.. and similarly Naz has very plausible actions too.
Was there a reason why you picked Ghost and Typhoon as your inspect target on those days, Nazarush?
Btw, I can confirm Typhoon was offline on the Gog forum by the time I came on and posted my #494 above.
Posted April 23, 2011
I was thinking Naz was speaking the truth at first, but I think Typhoon had no holes in his story so far either (from what I know a governor as, anyway). He did indeed get the post in between Damnation's lynch and the actual death scene between twilight, so he could actually have done that.. and similarly Naz has very plausible actions too.
Was there a reason why you picked Ghost and Typhoon as your inspect target on those days, Nazarush?
Btw, I can confirm Typhoon was offline on the Gog forum by the time I came on and posted my #494 above.
Posted April 24, 2011
All right, Im going to try and work through all the questions leveled against me so someone tell me if I missed something.
First off, why investigate Ghost? I really thought she might be mafia based on the way she pulled a lynch reason against Damnation out of thin air. After I got the town result back, I tried to drop support for her in a couple of my posts but didnt want to do anything to obvious and out myself.
Why didnt I defend Ghost when she was about to be lynched? This blame has to go to the rest of the town. You guys got caught up in the idea of some ridiculous scum mason conspiracy, dropped all the other strong leads and lynched her in the span of only about ten hours. That might seem like a long time, but between sleeping and going to class, the bandwagon ended before I saw it start.
Isnt it wierd to have two cops? No, not really. Rolceop is an entirely different role from regular cop. If it had a different name nobody would have even blinked an eye at its presence in the same game as a regular cop.
I know there were other questions so more is on the way
First off, why investigate Ghost? I really thought she might be mafia based on the way she pulled a lynch reason against Damnation out of thin air. After I got the town result back, I tried to drop support for her in a couple of my posts but didnt want to do anything to obvious and out myself.
Why didnt I defend Ghost when she was about to be lynched? This blame has to go to the rest of the town. You guys got caught up in the idea of some ridiculous scum mason conspiracy, dropped all the other strong leads and lynched her in the span of only about ten hours. That might seem like a long time, but between sleeping and going to class, the bandwagon ended before I saw it start.
Isnt it wierd to have two cops? No, not really. Rolceop is an entirely different role from regular cop. If it had a different name nobody would have even blinked an eye at its presence in the same game as a regular cop.
I know there were other questions so more is on the way
Posted April 24, 2011
Who do I read as Mafia? Orryrro and Typhoon primarily. Also Vitek. My reasons for all three have been stated and they havent really done anything to change my opinion. Now I know for certain that Typhoon is mafia so I want to lynch him for a guaranteed mafia kill.
Why did I choose Typhoon to inspect? He was high on my scumlist. Orryrro was just as high but, as mentioned earlier in the game, I think Orryrrro might be a godfather based on his desire to be inspected by a cop. If that was the case, I didnt want to waste my investigation on him so I targeted Typhoon instead and struck gold.
Why was I not on either lynchwagon? Because I didnt agree with them. I stated outright that I didnt believe Ghost's claim of how his wording proved he was scum. There was little I could do to defend him after he claimed scum but Istill highly doubted he would ruin the game like that. As for the Ghost lynchwagon, I obviously wasnt going to lynch her after getting a town result and I have already explained why I could not defend her.
Am I missing anything?
Why did I choose Typhoon to inspect? He was high on my scumlist. Orryrro was just as high but, as mentioned earlier in the game, I think Orryrrro might be a godfather based on his desire to be inspected by a cop. If that was the case, I didnt want to waste my investigation on him so I targeted Typhoon instead and struck gold.
Why was I not on either lynchwagon? Because I didnt agree with them. I stated outright that I didnt believe Ghost's claim of how his wording proved he was scum. There was little I could do to defend him after he claimed scum but Istill highly doubted he would ruin the game like that. As for the Ghost lynchwagon, I obviously wasnt going to lynch her after getting a town result and I have already explained why I could not defend her.
Am I missing anything?
Posted April 24, 2011
I don't think so, and I agree, I wasn't around for Ghost's lynch either. Thanks for the replies. These are the updated claims while still waiting on Vitek:
1. Typhoon - Jack Layton - Governor (24h to send a PM to prevent lynch, can't prevent on himself)
2 jesskitten - Jack London - Survivor (3rd party)
4. Robbeasy - Jack White - Town Mason (With Ghost)
5. Bazilisek - Jack Bauer - Jack of All Trades (passed first night, got roleblocked 2nd night)
7. Rooshandark - Jack and Jill - Doublevoter
9. Nazarush - Jack Frost - Cop (Investigated Ghost (Town), Typhoon (Mafia))
10. Vitek - ?
12. Orryyrro - Union Jack - Vanilla
Known hidden remaining roles: Roleblocker (likely Mafia)
1. Typhoon - Jack Layton - Governor (24h to send a PM to prevent lynch, can't prevent on himself)
2 jesskitten - Jack London - Survivor (3rd party)
4. Robbeasy - Jack White - Town Mason (With Ghost)
5. Bazilisek - Jack Bauer - Jack of All Trades (passed first night, got roleblocked 2nd night)
7. Rooshandark - Jack and Jill - Doublevoter
9. Nazarush - Jack Frost - Cop (Investigated Ghost (Town), Typhoon (Mafia))
10. Vitek - ?
12. Orryyrro - Union Jack - Vanilla
Known hidden remaining roles: Roleblocker (likely Mafia)
Posted April 25, 2011
This is not easy.
The theory that its not a simple 3 Mafia game seems strong, with all the claims knocking about. It puts the final nail into my Damnation theory from day 1 really (Let me all hear you cheer that I'm finally leaving that one alone!)..
For that reason - Unvote Orryrro - I still dont like the claim you made, but its too close to major trouble to lynch someone solely on that one piece of info.
Nazarush Cop claim - one thing for me which strongly goes in his favour is that if he were Mafia, how risky would it be to claim Cop when there has already been a Cop uncovered - albeit a Rolecop.? Very, I think. Plus, his posting and style has been in line with how a cop would behave. I'm very inclined to believe Nazarush, and as Roosh says, if Typhoon turns up Town, Nazarush is a surefire Lynch tomorrow.
Buuuuuuut - the very fact it looks like its NOT a simple 9/3 Mafia game makes me wonder all over again about Roosh - 2 Mafia, one with a doublevote?? Possibility I suppose...
Typhoons claim - Governer. Difficult to disprove. Handy for him that he hasn't used it yet...
Its a difficult one - it comes down to who you believe. I believe Nazarush.
Therefore Vote Typhoon45
The theory that its not a simple 3 Mafia game seems strong, with all the claims knocking about. It puts the final nail into my Damnation theory from day 1 really (Let me all hear you cheer that I'm finally leaving that one alone!)..
For that reason - Unvote Orryrro - I still dont like the claim you made, but its too close to major trouble to lynch someone solely on that one piece of info.
Nazarush Cop claim - one thing for me which strongly goes in his favour is that if he were Mafia, how risky would it be to claim Cop when there has already been a Cop uncovered - albeit a Rolecop.? Very, I think. Plus, his posting and style has been in line with how a cop would behave. I'm very inclined to believe Nazarush, and as Roosh says, if Typhoon turns up Town, Nazarush is a surefire Lynch tomorrow.
Buuuuuuut - the very fact it looks like its NOT a simple 9/3 Mafia game makes me wonder all over again about Roosh - 2 Mafia, one with a doublevote?? Possibility I suppose...
Typhoons claim - Governer. Difficult to disprove. Handy for him that he hasn't used it yet...
Its a difficult one - it comes down to who you believe. I believe Nazarush.
Therefore Vote Typhoon45
Posted April 25, 2011
Typhoon has 4 votes, with 5 needed to lynch. (Nazarush, Rooshx2, Robb)
Nazarush has 1 (Typhoon)
Non-voters are me, baz, Vitek, Orry.
I'm loathe to vote before Vitek checks in.. else he's totally going to miss this day minus his one post to say he was out of it. I want to hear his opinion. Baz too should soon be back (I think?).
One thing struck me, who's even heard of Jack Layton outside of Canada? I have since I live here, and I note from his location field Typhoon would too, but how well is he known in Europe, even though it's election time now? Just curious.. may be just weak metagamey evidence there.
Nazarush has 1 (Typhoon)
Non-voters are me, baz, Vitek, Orry.
I'm loathe to vote before Vitek checks in.. else he's totally going to miss this day minus his one post to say he was out of it. I want to hear his opinion. Baz too should soon be back (I think?).
One thing struck me, who's even heard of Jack Layton outside of Canada? I have since I live here, and I note from his location field Typhoon would too, but how well is he known in Europe, even though it's election time now? Just curious.. may be just weak metagamey evidence there.
Posted April 25, 2011
Nazarush has 1 (Typhoon)
Non-voters are me, baz, Vitek, Orry.
I'm loathe to vote before Vitek checks in.. else he's totally going to miss this day minus his one post to say he was out of it. I want to hear his opinion. Baz too should soon be back (I think?).
One thing struck me, who's even heard of Jack Layton outside of Canada? I have since I live here, and I note from his location field Typhoon would too, but how well is he known in Europe, even though it's election time now? Just curious.. may be just weak metagamey evidence there.
