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dedoporno: I'm not entirely sure that I understand you question. I'm pretty sure that if some of the winners are scum they will talk about their actions in a post factum manner. Like they did something and they achieved whatever result. This may or may not be true, though (most likely the latter, especially if the ability is something that is worth keeping for mid to end game). It's quite probable that they didn't really use their action that night or in the way they said, or the action was used but the effect was entirely different, etc. These unknowns are why I believe everything that comes from the winners as a result from their supposed actions should be analyzed and put to question rather than taken at face value. Again, I'm not sure I understood you properly and if this answer satisfies your question.
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HypersomniacLive: It does, thank you.

What are your thoughts about RWarehall eagerness to answer all questions that were asked about the prizes? He's also the only one to talk about his prize in more details.

This is actually a question for all, so whoever wants to chime in, please do.
Can be seen as both ways, townish or scummy. Usually later into the game people see info sharing (while assuming it is genuine) as a town thing to do, unless of course you have a grand scheme they have no idea about. But this early into the game it looks like fishing for bonus credo points to me, which is a lot less townish to put it bluntly, if at all.

Still, it is to be expected to see someone per game play like that. Mrkgnao had a way of gaining credo points early on. Gonna advise you from now, when you play with him, never believe a damn thing 100%, no matter what others say. He knows how to sugar coat things better than anyone I've seen, and I've been places.
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HijacK: Talk about being bad at math. You do realize that scum can NK, right? And with multiple factions, who knows how many can get NK'd per night, so let me put it this way, Town doesn't even have 6 chances of being wrong.
Scum can NK, or fail as well, multiple factions depend on a lot, and early speculating in the past has proven that it simply lets the Mafia sit back and try to figure out what roles benefit the most from the discussion. Wait for some sort of proof of multiple factions before we automatically decide there are. Hell we've had one game here that didn't even HAVE a Mafia, just one SK.

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DarkoD13: Definitely something to keep in mind for me. Along with lx's vote against adalia and Twilight's, Hijack's (and maybe Hypersomniac's) puzzled reactions to my considering adalia town.
Because you should know better then to make a claim like that without giving reasoning, even when I pointed it out? An explanation of your reasoning goes a long way towards giving it weight, and all you've done with it isn't explain, but just be 'concerned'.

Vote Darko
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HypersomniacLive: What are your thoughts about RWarehall eagerness to answer all questions that were asked about the prizes? He's also the only one to talk about his prize in more details.

This is actually a question for all, so whoever wants to chime in, please do.
RWarehall is doing what I would do in his situation. A target is on his back for winning a "fabulous" prize, I would do what I could to make the target smaller. He is presenting his prize as almost inconsequential so focus will not be on the fact that he has a prize. I also believe him. He is getting scrutinized as being scummy for his actions so far, but I don't see that.

I'm not sure if all the prizes were the same or not, no one playing the game knows unless Flub shared that info with the prize winners. Whatever the prizes are I'm sure we'll find out in due time, but as I said earlier focusing on them is not what we should be doing. What we should be doing is trying to find the scum.
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HijacK: Talk about being bad at math. You do realize that scum can NK, right? And with multiple factions, who knows how many can get NK'd per night, so let me put it this way, Town doesn't even have 6 chances of being wrong.
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TwilightBard: Scum can NK, or fail as well, multiple factions depend on a lot, and early speculating in the past has proven that it simply lets the Mafia sit back and try to figure out what roles benefit the most from the discussion. Wait for some sort of proof of multiple factions before we automatically decide there are. Hell we've had one game here that didn't even HAVE a Mafia, just one SK.
Have fun waiting for a game with 18 players where there is a doc and that doc miraculously stops every NK. I'm gonna say it again, yes, there is the possibility of a doc to miraculously do that, but I don't put my money on such inefficient odds. It's like betting on the 0 when playing roulette. How many do actually win from doing that?
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HypersomniacLive: What are your thoughts about RWarehall eagerness to answer all questions that were asked about the prizes? He's also the only one to talk about his prize in more details.

This is actually a question for all, so whoever wants to chime in, please do.
I see it as an over-play of one’s hand to try and grab town points. This post immediately struck me. To come out and push (firmly, disguised with gentle words like “very slightly”) for town points for all prize winners is to very directly attempt to gain credit as Town for something obviously irrelevant. A noob might do that; I simply don’t buy it from a veteran. In fact, he turns it around that those who didn’t “try” hard enough must be scum. This:

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RWarehall: Personally, I'm going to look harder at those who didn't try to win a prize. Why? And what are they trying to protect?
…is just way out of tune.

Then he keeps repeating the point. Yep, this is definitely where my gut is right now.
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HypersomniacLive: What are your thoughts about RWarehall eagerness to answer all questions that were asked about the prizes? He's also the only one to talk about his prize in more details.

This is actually a question for all, so whoever wants to chime in, please do.
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trentonlf: RWarehall is doing what I would do in his situation. A target is on his back for winning a "fabulous" prize, I would do what I could to make the target smaller. He is presenting his prize as almost inconsequential so focus will not be on the fact that he has a prize. I also believe him. He is getting scrutinized as being scummy for his actions so far, but I don't see that.

I'm not sure if all the prizes were the same or not, no one playing the game knows unless Flub shared that info with the prize winners. Whatever the prizes are I'm sure we'll find out in due time, but as I said earlier focusing on them is not what we should be doing. What we should be doing is trying to find the scum.
I don't find this very convincing. More so because of the fact what he does is basically forcing us to have him in a good light for literally no good reason other than the fact he won a prize. I'm sorry, what? That smells fishy to me.
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trentonlf: RWarehall is doing what I would do in his situation. A target is on his back for winning a "fabulous" prize, I would do what I could to make the target smaller. He is presenting his prize as almost inconsequential so focus will not be on the fact that he has a prize. I also believe him. He is getting scrutinized as being scummy for his actions so far, but I don't see that.

I'm not sure if all the prizes were the same or not, no one playing the game knows unless Flub shared that info with the prize winners. Whatever the prizes are I'm sure we'll find out in due time, but as I said earlier focusing on them is not what we should be doing. What we should be doing is trying to find the scum.
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HijacK: I don't find this very convincing. More so because of the fact what he does is basically forcing us to have him in a good light for literally no good reason other than the fact he won a prize. I'm sorry, what? That smells fishy to me.
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I am guessing this is the part where you say he is forcing us to see him in a positive light:
So frankly. forget the odds, I think any winners and even some of the others who tried hard to win, I'm leaning very slightly to town. Scum, I think, would be making a very silly mistake joining the limelight, but hey, always the possibility of a greedy short-sighted scum or a rather vanilla one looking for a power boost. The serious roles whether its a Godfather or Serial Killer or whatever craziness Flub has in store are highly unlikely to be among the prize winners (or people who may have posted 100 surnames). Personally, I'm going to look harder at those who didn't try to win a prize. Why? And what are they trying to protect?

If so I'm not sure how "leaning very slightly to town" is forcing us to see him in a good light.

I'm not disputing your opinion, it could be spot on. But I don't see it that way.
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HijacK: Have fun waiting for a game with 18 players where there is a doc and that doc miraculously stops every NK. I'm gonna say it again, yes, there is the possibility of a doc to miraculously do that, but I don't put my money on such inefficient odds. It's like betting on the 0 when playing roulette. How many do actually win from doing that?
What? I'm simply saying that trying to guess the setup with no information is like firing into the dark. You don't know what you're hitting, or IF you're hitting anything. We have no information about how this is set up and I'm sure that Flubb has a few curveballs in the mix as well. In fact, the only people who might have information are the people that we want to hunt, the Mafia. Better to scumhunt then spend too much time contemplating with no evidence.
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HijacK: Have fun waiting for a game with 18 players where there is a doc and that doc miraculously stops every NK. I'm gonna say it again, yes, there is the possibility of a doc to miraculously do that, but I don't put my money on such inefficient odds. It's like betting on the 0 when playing roulette. How many do actually win from doing that?
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TwilightBard: What? I'm simply saying that trying to guess the setup with no information is like firing into the dark. You don't know what you're hitting, or IF you're hitting anything. We have no information about how this is set up and I'm sure that Flubb has a few curveballs in the mix as well. In fact, the only people who might have information are the people that we want to hunt, the Mafia. Better to scumhunt then spend too much time contemplating with no evidence.
I was actually discussing the potential of chances town has to be mistaken, because I was called bad at math apparently from a discussion where I was explaining how a "likely" thing doesn't mean it's true. I was the "likely" candidate for scum 3 times past and it was never the truth.

But we digress. This discussion reached an unneeded point since I am not actually willing to discuss the setting of this game right now. Day 1 is simply too obscure. Let's re-open this subject on Day 2.
I've quickly scanned through the posts and am now trying to read through them more carefully. How long has it been since Crewdroog's last post?
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cristigale: I've quickly scanned through the posts and am now trying to read through them more carefully. How long has it been since Crewdroog's last post?
If I am correct and did not miss one after this it is listed as 2 days ago.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_25_terror_at_tres_leches/post473
I hope all is well with Crew, she has not been on Steam either
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cristigale: I've quickly scanned through the posts and am now trying to read through them more carefully. How long has it been since Crewdroog's last post?
I got a message saying she has the flu.

I encouraged her to liberally apply adult beverages and get plenty of sleep. We would be waiting patiently here for her return.
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cristigale: I've quickly scanned through the posts and am now trying to read through them more carefully. How long has it been since Crewdroog's last post?
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flubbucket: I got a message saying she has the flu.

I encouraged her to liberally apply adult beverages and get plenty of sleep. We would be waiting patiently here for her return.
Not good that she has the flu but good to know she is ok other than that. I found it very unlike her to not be on at all. I hope she takes your advice and rests up. Health is always more important. Feel better Crew!
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cristigale: I've quickly scanned through the posts and am now trying to read through them more carefully. How long has it been since Crewdroog's last post?
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flubbucket: I got a message saying she has the flu.

I encouraged her to liberally apply adult beverages and get plenty of sleep. We would be waiting patiently here for her return.
While all of us feel bad about this and everyone encourages her to rest and heal, can we receive a replacement if 8 or 9 days of inactivity are reached? By not contributing with anything, she's in a similar position with Quadralien in game 23, and we all know what his alignment was.