Once again, I listed my choices and the reasoning behind them, because I believe this is better than keeping quite and waiting for the deadline to force us making a move. Whether others agree with me or not is up to them. If we don't share thoughts and opinions we are as good as dead, especially in the current setup. It may look (and actually be) preposterous from your end, but you need to consider the fact that we don't have access to the same information, we can only assume what's going on and be more or less inclined to believe it, based on whatever knowledge we have. This is why you are a deep reserve rather than a top pick, but I do have my doubts. You and everyone else has theirs.

If this is the case then CSPVG is also in the loop. I'm with Yoglosth on the matter that a naive cop can't (or at least shouldn't) be part of such a game. It's complex enough as it is.

I'm still torn between Sage and cristigale, but Sage looks like the better pick at the moment.



Important note: The project I'm working on is launching next Tuesday so it's a madhouse here. I'm not sure how much I'll be able to participate before the deadline comes up, if at all. If something important happens and I'm not around, but am needed, please send me a PM, so I can get notified and I'll try to come by whenever I have the time to do so.

With that said I will place my vote now:



vote Sage

The flavour Flubb used (i just went back to read it) says a motorbike or 4-wheeler. I think that covers the truck?

As to the reasons why, I wasn't told. All my Flavour said was someone tried to set foot in my yard in the night, so I shot em. That was all.

Is it just a coincidence that both adaliabook's and DarkoD13's murder had some food related flavour to it? One diced up into nachos, the other killed with jumping beans. I'm not sure if this is just some flavour added by Flub, or if this has some relevance to the people/person who killed them both.


I know it's not high on the list, but are you thinking two of each role, or just some roles? Also, do you think it would be one on each side (one pro-Town and one anti-Town), or do you think they could both be on the same side?


What contradictions did I make about the jugs discussion? Are you referring to me trying to include something else to discuss other than the jugs? If so then yes I did. We were getting nowhere, no one was coming forward about sending them and no one came forward about receiving the messages a few of us sent back. So what good would it have done to just keep going over it again and again, just as we did the flips?

But okay, lets talk about them if you want. I never stopped anyone talking about them, I just suggested it. I wasn't aware I had some God power that let me dictate what you all talk about. All I did was agree with Yoglosth that the discussion was getting us no where.


I do not know if JMich is Scum or Town. I came forward because I wanted to to shed some light on his ability and that there is some truth to what he said. My timing and the way I did it was not the best, if I could I would go back and do it once I was in a clearer state of mind. If Sage's claim is true, then that would mean he also has a gun, giving more evidence to his JOAT claim. I did not come forward to try to protect him, I just wanted to confirm some of what he said to help people have a better idea of what his role may be.

Or it could mean that he's scum. Scum also has guns. So while Sage's claim doesn't contradict JMichs claim, it also does nothing to confirm it. As I said before, and cristi as well, Sage's claim didn't contribute anything new and therefore was completely unneccessary. Calling at the same time for a mass claim was what made it scummy.

I never said JMich wasn't Scum. The Mafia Wiki says a JOAT can be Scum or Town. Just because he seems to have the abilities described (if Sage's claim is true), does not mean he is automatically Town. The role is quite powerful, and some believe it would be too powerful for Scum to have, I would not rule it out that JMich could be Scum, especially in a role madness game with no flips. If he were Scum, why did he not use his gun on one of the two cops? I still find it strange that no one has yet tried to NK any of our cops? Vital roles in a game with no flips.

See, here's the thing dedo, thing which makes me think you're not town. When I confronted you about my tone as something potentially incriminating you shoved it off as just an observation, yet here you stand in this post explaining how that was in fact reasoning for a list of candidates. How come you contradict yourself?

I'd just like to mention that Mexican Jumping Beans aren't food - they're insects.

I'm back in town, btw. God damn was this game dead for the last few days.

I mean, really, I assume most of you have died of boredom. Nothing livens up a party like senseless slaughter! When do we get to kill someone again?

I never knew that about jumping beans. I guess it's still kind of food related (insects inside seed pods), and I'm guessing he would still have had to eat them for them to be bursting out of his stomach.

Although, I thought that in some cultures insects were classed as food?
http://www.manataka.org/images/insect_food_plate.jpg

Same one, yes. We have moved away from them, but I'm pretty sure we will see more of them. I don't have problem with not wanting to talk about them. Someone (Yogsloth was it?) said so from the very beginning. What seemed strange to me was that you were fairly involved in the topic at first (you did start it, after all) and suddenly you said "we are wasting our time and need to drop the jugs discussion right now". I don't know how crucial they are to the game and if at all, but I doubt they are in it just to waste time and create distraction, but this change of heart felt sudden and weird.



I'm not. I don't know why you see it that way or try to make it look like that. I haven't "shoved off" anything, but it is indeed an observation. This observation serves as an argument, as flimsy as it may be, to why I would consider you if pressed by time. I feel like you are trying to twist my words to discredit what I'm saying. I guess this is somewhat understandable since I have introduced you as a possible votee (is that a word?), but you seem to be getting a bit too defensive for something as small as an observation that should be discarded based on previous game experience. I said I have doubts about you and I suddenly became non-town (not sure if I was something else prior). This looks kind of OMGUSy. What will happen if others say they feel the same way? All anti-town?

I was in a bit of a weird mood at the time, I am sorry about that, that's the main reason I have not posted much in a while, I wanted to wait until I had a clearer head. I did not mean to sound as though I was dismissing all the talk of the jugs, just that it would be a good idea to branch out and discuss some other things, especially as no one has yet to come forward with any new information about the jugs, such as who sent them, or who received the two messages sent. As I said, feel free to keep talking about the jugs, but we need to try to make sure we are not just going around in circles again. That will not help us find non-Town players, or help us find a suitable person to lynch.

True. Let's go find some non-Town players. I would prefer Scum, but I would settle for non-Town as well. So, what are your thoughts right now? Talking about finding scum is all fine and dandy, but doing something about it is what really counts. The last three or so days went by and almost nothing happened. This is almost as much as we have remaining. Hopefully we won't have another three days of not much.

I lost count and fell down. Can we have current count, please?

Of course we know CSPVG doesn't care, but when was the last time HSL posted?

Geez, dedo is trying to carry the entire game by himself.

It seems as if most are waiting for something to happen, I guess hoping someone will just jump out and confess. The lack of activity is playing right into the scums hand(s). Based on actions that have happened so far, I see four people to look at.

1. Dedo for his slip early on when not using town in reference to himself.
2. CSPVG has not been confirmed town and his claim caused more confusion than helping.
3. Ddickinson claiming role of taxi driver and then targeting the two claimed cops causing chaos and confusion
4. Sage stating everyone should claim after she does and then denying it.

If there is something I'm missing that someone else has done please post your thoughts. Only way town wins is if we communicate with each other. Of the four people I've listed CSPVG and ddickinson are in a grey area at the moment and I don't think we can lynch either one until we clear it up. Between Dedo and sage the one that has been most helpful is Dedo, he is trying to stimulate conversation to find scum and help town. Sage is not contributing as she has in games past with her notes and her behavior seems off this game.

Vote Sage103082

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

CSPVG- 1 - (Robbeasy)
Sage103082- 4 - (yogsloth, Lifthrasil, dedoporno, trentonlf)


Not Voting - All others


With 12 Players Alive it will take 7 to secure a lynch.