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trentonlf: What reasons would you give for a no lynch that the scum could not use to their advantage?
Two roles. Watchers and Trackers.
If the cops must be blocked, that means someone visits them. A Watcher can see who consistently visits our Cops, and a tracker may also find someone who visited either a victim, or one of the cops. We may already have such info, though revealing it at this point would be premature, because the data is inconclusive.


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trentonlf: This seemed to be laying a foundation to later push a no lynch. If we were guaranteed no flip ever on a lynch I would agree to a no lynch if we were not sure the person being lynched was scum. But, we there is nothing saying there will never be a flip on lynches and if we go forward thinking we can't lynch anyone that enables the scum to manipulate the situation more than normal.
And of course I'm laying the foundation to later suggest a no lynch. I want people to think about the possibility, then depending on what later lynches reveal (or don't reveal), evaluate and decide for themselves if a No Lynch is a good choice or not.
But some people pretend to know better than others and declare there's only one correct course. What does that say about them I wonder?
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adaliabooks: Awesome :)

That's almost exactly what I was looking for. Now if I can just make it pull all the posts and put them together on one page (or a few pages)... It's a start, and as that is easier than I thought it might be, I will have a go and see if I can come up with something that does what I want.

Thanks dedo :)
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dedoporno: Sure! I have actually considered writing a script similar to mrkgnao's MaGOG that can give a more usable filtering and searching options for forum threads with the mafia one as it's prime target, but this needs time and planning.
So, I've managed to bash together a script which pulls all the posts on the same page, but for some reason your filter function doesn't seem to work, it still just filters the posts that were already on the page...

Here's what I've got, any ideas?

for (var i = 84; i > 0; i--)
{
var threadURL = "/forum/general/gog_mafia_25_terror_at_tres_leches/page" + i + " .spot_h"
var $newdiv = $( "<div class='page" + i + "posts'/>" )
$( ".list_h" ).prepend($newdiv)
$( ".page" + i + "posts").load(threadURL)
}
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trentonlf: Since I believe yog's and CSPVG's claims as town cops that means the scum would know who the cops are and block them (like they did yog's), Night kill them, or as in CSPVG"s case leave them alone and hope we lynch them on suspicion because he was not blocked or NK"d. I sure wish they had not role claimed when they did as it hurts town more than helps. My point is since our town cops are known it gives the scum a huge advantage as we now have to hope there are other roles to find the scum. By saying we should do a no lynch just gives the scum more freedom to manipulate the situation.
About the help part you need to acknowledge that back then we weren't aware the flip process will be out of the ordinary. It looks worse in hindsight, but there was no way they knew that (unless, of course, they had special information for some reason). Also, yes, CSPVG's claim doesn't look like the best possible idea since it brought a large amount of confusion, but I actually tried to put myself in his place and was pretty surprised by the result. I'll be lying right now if I said that I would definitely kept quiet about it, not knowing how complex the setup actually is and someone claims my role that more often than not is unique and Town exclusive.
HijacK - Seems to have disappeared completely right now. I am finding this a little off (yes I know the holidays are just ending and RL has taken a front seat.) However, I would have expected some drop in or comments. I am finding the silence a bit off of how I have seen Hijack play and participate. I am also not sure I like the hinting about knowing something and then vanishing, it leaves rooms for people to come up with stories and possibilities. Why not share with us instead of hinting at knowing something.

trentonlf - I have leaning towards town. However this recent back and forth with Jmich reminds me of his time as mafia and trying to latch onto something and run with it. At a point in my reading today I thought to myself "are we beating a dead horse now or are we really trying to get a point across"

yogsloth - I tend to believe Yogs claim.

JMich - right now I have as neutral as im not sure. I feel he was very quiet but it add some good points in the beginning. I do not like this back and forth with trent at all. I do not like the role fishing. I am not sure about the no lynch even really being discussed right now. My thought is to wait and see how things go today and over night before even bring it up and getting so heated over it. Why throw something else into the mix to get everyone on opposite sides of a subject right now. We should be trying to work as one not adding something to bicker over.

Robbeasy - I do believe he is a PGO from everything so far. What im not sure about is his alliance. I have to agree with others that him standing guard night one is a very anti town thing to do. But that alone does not prove without a doubt to me that he is scum or neutral. The thing that keeps me thinking and going back to other then town is the living on the outskirts and why would a town memeber be living outside the town and that would not want anyone to be around them or on their property.

adaliabooks - I have books as town. He has made some very strong points and he is trying to help.

dedoporno - I have leaning town but I would like to hear more from him.

CSPVG - He is one of my unsure where to place. I want to believe that he is town as I can see the possibility of two cops roles for town. However, I strongly dislike his claiming when he did and with no pressure, To me it seems very off. As others have said almost like confuse the game and us more. I keep going over it in my head trying to think of reasons to claim when he did and I can see that he wanted to say hey I am one too as compared to waiting until another day or so when we would be much more inclined to not believe him. However, why not wait until the next night is over and see if he would have learned anything with out drawing attention to himself. I just think there could have been a way better way to go about it. The way it is now leaves us unsure I feel any thing about having 2 claims of the same would leave us unsure.

Lifthrasil - I have him leaning town. He also makes very good points.

Ixamyakxim - has been on my watch list since almost the beginning. H e was quick to call people out for lurking yet he has been one of the biggest lurkers. He does not read the thread very well. To me he comes off as a Eh im here attitude a bit. I am leaning scum.

ddickinson - I feel DD can be an asset to this game if she only come out of her shell a bit and back off being so worried. I also get a slight vibe there is more and I am hoping to is not scum trying to hide behind the wall of Im new and worried about posts coming off wrong. I do have her leaning more to town after the conversation about her action and comments. Though I would like to see more from her.

cristigale - I am leaning town. I like her posts and I feel she has very good thoughts and comments. Thought I would really like to hear more from her too.

HypersomniacLive -I have as strong town. He is a very good player with a eye for details and being able to ask very good questions. I hope we hear more from him as the Holidays are over.
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Sage103082: trentonlf - I have leaning towards town. However this recent back and forth with Jmich reminds me of his time as mafia and trying to latch onto something and run with it. At a point in my reading today I thought to myself "are we beating a dead horse now or are we really trying to get a point across"
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Pretty sure me and JMich are done with the questioning back and forth on the issue, I would say we both gathered the information we were looking for.

SInce we only have about 3 and half days to reach a consensus on what to do before the day ends who would you place your vote on and why? This question is for everyone.
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Sage103082: Though I would like to see more from her.
I will try to be more present on the thread, and I will try not to keep my thought to myself as much as I have been doing. Unfortunately I have had a lot on over a Christmas and I have not been in the right frame of mind for the game. I probably won't be on much over the weekend, as you know I have a few days off work and I will be spending much of my time with my partner, but I will make extra effort to be more active next week and try to at least find someone I am happy enough to vote on.
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Sage103082: HijacK - Seems to have disappeared completely right now. I am finding this a little off (yes I know the holidays are just ending and RL has taken a front seat.) However, I would have expected some drop in or comments. I am finding the silence a bit off of how I have seen Hijack play and participate.
Well, this isn't too surprising. I, myself, got back on track just a few hours ago after a few days off. Holidays, daily feasts and stuff. Also, he did warn us that he has finals, so keep this in mind as well.


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Sage103082: Robbeasy - I do believe he is a PGO from everything so far. What im not sure about is his alliance. I have to agree with others that him standing guard night one is a very anti town thing to do. But that alone does not prove without a doubt to me that he is scum or neutral. The thing that keeps me thinking and going back to other then town is the living on the outskirts and why would a town memeber be living outside the town and that would not want anyone to be around them or on their property.
Because of his role, maybe? To me a Paranoid Gun Owner would be some sort of a hermit or one of these guys who prepare for doomsday, stack up on weapons and canned goods and strongly believe that their property is their property. But they have to visit the convenience store for them goods. So yeah, there is a very good chance he's town. I'm not saying I'm 100% sure on this, but I totally can see it.
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Sage103082: HijacK - Seems to have disappeared completely right now. I am finding this a little off (yes I know the holidays are just ending and RL has taken a front seat.) However, I would have expected some drop in or comments. I am finding the silence a bit off of how I have seen Hijack play and participate.
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dedoporno: Well, this isn't too surprising. I, myself, got back on track just a few hours ago after a few days off. Holidays, daily feasts and stuff. Also, he did warn us that he has finals, so keep this in mind as well.
I do understand as I have had some major issues with Giz and been away for the most part as well. I guess I see him on somewhere else and wonder why not even a drop in here. Though being in HS still and going through all the testing before break I can see not wanting to do anything but relax play games and spend time with family ect.
But it is still something that I noticed and that makes me think- as Hijack has always been one to have something to add or comment on.
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ddickinson:
LOL how do you manage to give the same nonanswer almost every time! You cristi and HSL are amazing.

Unvote trentonlf

Vote JMich

Let's see how far this wagon goes, who does or doesn't get on it and when.
Two days and change? Most of it over the weekend?

Funny how the two real candidates are JMich and his "I'm suggesting, not really, yes I am, no I'm not" nolynch.

Coin flip on which it's gonna be.
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yogsloth: Two days and change? Most of it over the weekend?

Funny how the two real candidates are JMich and his "I'm suggesting, not really, yes I am, no I'm not" nolynch.
Is this post missing something or do I need to go to bed?
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yogsloth: Two days and change? Most of it over the weekend?

Funny how the two real candidates are JMich and his "I'm suggesting, not really, yes I am, no I'm not" nolynch.
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dedoporno: Is this post missing something or do I need to go to bed?
Two days until the deadline, and a small amount of extra time besides? Forsooth! Egads! For... uh... sooth!

I find it most humorous that with so little time, we are vexed between two most optimal solutions... Either we goodfellows and ladies lynch the esteemed JMich, or we come to no decision at all, and are left with no-one put to the gallows!

This last choice would be most deliciously ironic, given the aforementioned JMich's near-constant equivocating on the very subject! Forsooth! Brogdingnagian! Bumblepants! Egads!
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ddickinson:
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Ixamyakxim: LOL how do you manage to give the same nonanswer almost every time! You cristi and HSL are amazing.

Unvote trentonlf

Vote JMich

Let's see how far this wagon goes, who does or doesn't get on it and when.
This seems to me like one scum voting on the other to appear less scummy. There are several bad points in this short post: criticising one player (ddickinson) but voting on another, without comment. Yes, I know lots of things have been said about JMich, but still I think a vote should be explained. Switching votes, without further reasoning, just to hop on a wagon and to 'see how far it goes' does make you appear even more scummy than before.
I've made my feelings about ddickinson's nonanswers clear once or twice. Regardless of who says what when, right now I feel there's more to be learn from analyzing this train.

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Lifthrasil: This seems to me like one scum voting on the other to appear less scummy.
A good point. So it'll be interesting to see who gets off and when, and who gets on and when.
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Ixamyakxim: A good point. So it'll be interesting to see who gets off and when, and who gets on and when.
I think that would have been more interesting on New Year's Eve...

Obligatory rimshot.
Post edited January 03, 2015 by Krypsyn