First of all, I am sorry for the previous double post. GOG made my initial message disappear and when I re-wrote it, adding an extra line to it as well, my posts got overlapped. My mistake.

Another theory may be that scum know both yog and CSPVG are genuine cops and they blocked yog in order to incriminate CSPVG. Their potential failure is that they may have not anticipated a PGO claim, if genuine.

OK, well, HijacK confirms TB visited Robb. Doesn't add anything brand new, but certainly shows that Robb claimed because he knew he was about to be outed.

My opinion remains that we lynch the least active players and see what info can be gleaned from their flip/no-flip, if any. Don't allow scum to lurk their way to victory.

Vote JMich who barely posts, and when he does, posts very little of substance.

I don't like his "Town Jailor" suggestion either.

OK, you caught me.

My name is Abe Froman, and I am actually the Town Sausage King.

Is this a joke answer?

A few questions to answer...

@dedo -sorry missed that one -no I didnt get a N0 chance to stand guard

@ddickinson - I reiterate - what possible advantage does it give Mafia, doing what I have done?

My main reason for doing it is to stop any further big town roles getting whacked by me. Especially as we have lost the coroner. The risk was too high keeping quiet. Plus it cleared up one of the night kills - Twilight.

For what its worth - I have no idea what Twilight was doing - I was just told someone approached me, so i shot em.

The Yog / CSPVG debate - i see the whole game hinging on this. I still believe one of the is lying, but their claims appear to be too strong for anyone to be brave enough to make a move. I believe if we are strong and clear this up early, we have a good chance of winning. yes, we may hit the town cop, but at least next day it gives us a lot more info - or it would, if deaths revealed alignment. grrr, that really works against us now.

I tend to believe Yog more than CSPVG at this point. But its a whole bunch of WIFOM - which a lot will remain, if we dont start getting some alignment reveals.

Lets do what town is supposed to do, and start applying some pressure. Its a massive thing about GOG games that theres a whole load of talk all the time, and precious little voting.

vote CSPVG

Your claim made no sense at the time, and you've done nothing to convince me there was a good reason for it - a total scum play for me.

Random is as Random does. For a mere mortal such as myself to interfere would be quite arrogant.

I defer to the wisdom and power of the almighty internet.

Pretty sure he was joking,

I agree as well.

As of right now I am not sure who is who when it comes to Yogs and CSPVG but I would prefer to have both around until we find out some more information. I do tend to believe Yogs more then CSPVG but with all the unknowns so far I can see two Town Cops.

I refer to these posts from Flub

This is the last time I am going to address this as I can not answer it but only suspect why I was the one to find Darko. I do strongly believe that I was chosen from the above mentioned random.org.

Read the post again. I say that you could have been jailed, and if this was the case, I really hope it wasn't a town jailer. The reasoning is the same as what trentolf posted here.

Yes, I usually post what theories I'm thinking, so others can point out obvious flaws in my reasoning, and I wait for more facts until I start making walls of text. I prefer not to make speculative posts like that person A jailed you, unless I know that it was actually person A that did it. If I say at this point that we have a jailer, and most likely a scum one, everyone will be watching me to see what I know and how I know it.

Please refrain from joke answers. Posting false statements makes us believe that you are either scum who doesn't mind about lying, or town that makes incorrect statements, thus Lynch All Liars will be suggested (and probably enforced). The tradeof for such a joke remark is that all your previous statements are no longer worth jack.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT


JMich 1 - (yogsloth)
CSPVG 1 - (Robbeasy)

Not Voting - All others

Lots to catch up on, but nothing of too much value. I was hoping for more insight from HijacK, really, but I guess we have to work with what we have.

A couple of questions:

@HijacK, did you just trip Robbeasy into coming out?

@Robbeasy, would you have come out if HijacK wasn't able to point you out?


And an observation:

Two of the claimed murderous roles wasn't able to perform at N0. There was also no NK. Investigators investigated.
Considering the confusing nature of the game (and if you are to believe the assumptions above) my guess is that N0 had no NK and it was our chance to pick up some clues and info to use on the next day without any risk.

The “STAY AWAY” message makes sense if Robbeasy is telling the truth. After killing someone, a town PGO would want to warn everone to stay away from him. We need to find the body to see the warning. He ties the body to the motorcycle/four wheeler, drags Twilight to town and cuts him lose. The details about the rope still make me wonder but I believe knowing which details to focus on is key. I believe someone addressed this, but would flavor be included in the PMs? Has anyone received a message that includes flavor beyond their role PM?

I agree that a policy lynch eventually needs to occur. I would lynch him today as a last resort (if we cannot agree on anyone else).

Regarding yogs and CSPVG. I still think CSPVG looks like scum. As others have stated, CSPVG’s claim was foolish if he is town. His claim seems like too much of a coincidence and adds more confusion than answers. This is what scum would want. I do not have a standout reason to suspect yogs as scum.

I wonder if option #2 swings the odds too far in scum's favor. Hopefully, a more telling pattern will emerge after tonight.

You could just have chosen not to use your power until there's a reason to assume that you would be a NK target. Actually I don't like your reason for activating your power on night one at all. There was no reason to assume you would be targeted by scum for a NK. But there was a chance of hitting some investigative power role with your power. And with there usually being more town than scum the chance of hitting a town role were actually bigger for you than the chance of hitting scum. So it must have been clear to you, that with no concrete reason to activate your defensive power, your decision had a higher chance of hurting town than of helping town. Yet you couldn't resist using it, even at the risk it posed to town.

Here's another theory: maybe our Coroner was doing his job and found some lead that led him to you - and that's why you killed him. Unfortunately HijacK announced that he knew what Twilight was doing at night, which forced you to claim some role that would fit what happened at night. And you chose PGO, because it fits nicely (apart from you having had no good reason to stand guard at night).

See, this is the thing. Why would a Townie choose to kill whoever visits with two claimed Town Cops in a game where we already were under the suspicion that there may be no flips and investigations seem like the only way to progress? If Robbeasy is telling the truth, I have to say I don't like the way he played this out.

I saw what Lifth wrote after I finished my previous paragraph. Pretty much mirroring my thoughts.