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I think anyone expressing a genuine enjoyment of this game thus far should be tagged as scum.


Having fun = Scum tell
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flubbucket: I think anyone expressing a genuine enjoyment of this game thus far should be tagged as scum.

Having fun = Scum tell
So we either say we enjoy the game, and admit we are Scum. Or we say we hate it and offend the host, but we show we are Town. How about if we are on the fence? Not hating it, but not fully enjoying it, does that make us a special role, like Serial Killer? :-)

Sadly, I must then admit to being Scum, because I have enjoyed it so far.
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ddickinson: ...offend the host,
Offend me??? Not bloody likely.

I'm usually a fairly smiley upbeat person.
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flubbucket: Offend me??? Not bloody likely.

I'm usually a fairly smiley upbeat person.
Your hair looks lovely today.
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Lifthrasil: You claim to have information that others missed, but you refuse to share it.
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HijacK: I never said this, so don't put BS in my mouth, but alas, I will allow you to entertain me and find the post where I did that.
Sure. Here:
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HijacK: You, sir, I advise to reread the whole thread from another point of view, because I mostly find yours extremely bad. Just saying. My opinion. Can't actually believe I'm saying this about someone's opinion and it's not yog.
You advise me to re-read everything from a different point of view. But that's a very general, unhelpful statement. You don't say what point of view that should be, you don't say what I have missed, in your opinion, and one sentence later, you berate me for paying attention to small details (you call it 'trivial stuff') - when small details were all we had on day one. So you basically admonish me for trying to do my job of helping town. If you have a better way and are town, then it would be in your best interest not only to say: "You are wrong" but to elaborate what would be right and why. But if you are scum, sure, then your aggressive 'playstyle' and your annoyance that someone tries to pay attention to detail are understandable.


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HijacK: Talk when your play style is as efficient as mine.
No thanks. Your play style is efficient in making yourself suspicious and getting yourself lynched. If you really are town, you are playing into the hands of scum, because you provide a distraction. I don't need that kind of 'efficiency', because I actually want to play this as a team game. And not as a solo adventure, as 'one man army' as you seem to prefer.
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HypersomniacLive: Your hair looks lovely today.
Yes, his hair. Both of them.

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ddickinson: Sadly, I must then admit to being Scum, because I have enjoyed it so far.
Your display of suicidal thoughts is alarming. Fortunately I'm a good counselor, so I suggest you come to me for counseling. I'm going to analyse you and we'll get you fixed in no time. Yeah. Analysis, all night long :P
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ddickinson: ...offend the host,
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flubbucket: Offend me??? Not bloody likely.

I'm usually a fairly smiley upbeat person.
You mean like him?
I'm not really sure what there is to do at this point... we've still got two days before night ends and we see who was NK'd and get the results of any other night actions.

Right now I don't have much of a scum list. JMich has slipped down my rankings a little, I'm still suspicious, but not hugely so. I believe CSPVG's claim, but will have to wait and see whether he is sane or not.

HijacK is.... HijacK. I admit he could be scum this time and just using his usual aggressiveness as a shield, but I find it unlikely, he did try harder day 1 last game to not draw as much attention (as he had a power role which he wanted to use) so if he needed to stay alive I can see him toning down a bit... that being said, we had a N0 when his scum buddies might have advised him to just be his usual self and hope people would ignore any scum tells because of it. I have no idea. I'm not sure whether I would be willing to pursue a lynch or not without further evidence.

I have suspicions of ddickinson, there are lots of little slips and odd things she's said that are starting to add up. It could easily just be newbie mistakes, but I think I would be at least willing to put some pressure on here and see what happens.

The other player who is beginning to set off warning signals for me is Sage. She's been very quiet. And after last game I feel I understand her style quite well and she seemed to really gain in confidence by the end, so where is she now? I don't remember seeing many long posts from her, or any strong opinions. It may be nothing, or she may be distracted with other stuff, but I think there might be something there.
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dedoporno: Yes, his hair. Both of them.

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I was going for subtlety.


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dedoporno: [...]

Your display of suicidal thoughts is alarming. Fortunately I'm a good counselor, so I suggest you come to me for counseling. I'm going to analyse you and we'll get you fixed in no time. Yeah. Analysis, all night long :P
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ddickinson: I completely agree. He has been asked more than once to share a little of this information, but he just brushes it aside and dismisses the question. At least he responded to you, when I challenged him about his lack of sharing, I got no response. I think the fact he is keeping this information to himself, offering no clarification, or any kind of detail, is a very anti-town thing. He behaves as though he were a one man team, rather than part of the Town, as he claims to be. For me personally, I think his actions seem very Scummy, or at the least, anti-Town.

Feel free to prove me wrong, HijacK, feel free to start sharing with us, so that we can get the Scum lynched and the Town can win. Town is supposed to work as a team, we are supposed to share what we know so we have a better understand of who is and is not Town. How is it helping if you keep everything to yourself?
And to get back to the game - you might want to take some of your points and look inwards.
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dedoporno: Your display of suicidal thoughts is alarming. Fortunately I'm a good counselor, so I suggest you come to me for counseling. I'm going to analyse you and we'll get you fixed in no time. Yeah. Analysis, all night long :P
Tempting, but I think I will pass. You could be Scum just trying to lure me away during the night. :-)
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Robbeasy: All those bitching about Hijacks style - its his third or fourth game. First game he was lynched early, for exactly the reasons you are stating - his abrasive no nonsense style could easily be interpreted as scummy. He definitely isn't one for luvvy-luvvy sharing and tends to strike out on his own. But I'm sure he doesn't need me to explain for him (and will most likely have a go at me for it..;)
How dare you, sir, try to explain to people how I play? How dare you? Alright! Time to change style to CSPVG. Let's see how the game will go with one more lurker. xD
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TwilightBard: My experience is that you don't lynch off of playstyle, you lynch off of bad arguments full of holes and things that don't make sense. Meta-gaming can only go so far in Mafia because you never know when someone is experimenting with a different playstyle, or stressed, or simply being more relaxed. I understand that it rubs some people the wrong way when people shift their playstyle, but it tends to be their arguments that you can build a case with and how their arguments affect a lynch.
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ddickinson: I agree, I would not lynch someone just based on their play-style. I was just saying that his reasons offer a very convenient excuse if he wanted to try to hide some Scmmy behaviour. Sorry if I seemed to be implying it was a strong enough reason to lynch, that was not what I was trying to express.
This is where you tread into WIFOM. It was the perfect excuse int he past as well, yet it wasn't. It is also the perfect excuse to attract attention as vanilla, be unreadable by scum, and/or hide your true role. The possibilities are endless, and the mistake you make is limiting yourself to the one that fits your case and only that.

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Lifthrasil: You advise me to re-read everything from a different point of view. But that's a very general, unhelpful statement. You don't say what point of view that should be, you don't say what I have missed, in your opinion, and one sentence later, you berate me for paying attention to small details (you call it 'trivial stuff') - when small details were all we had on day one. So you basically admonish me for trying to do my job of helping town. If you have a better way and are town, then it would be in your best interest not only to say: "You are wrong" but to elaborate what would be right and why. But if you are scum, sure, then your aggressive 'playstyle' and your annoyance that someone tries to pay attention to detail are understandable.
Except you were not paying attention to any whatsoever small details. Tell me, do you know why I asked you what was the last mafia game you followed?

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Lifthrasil: No thanks. Your play style is efficient in making yourself suspicious and getting yourself lynched. If you really are town, you are playing into the hands of scum, because you provide a distraction. I don't need that kind of 'efficiency', because I actually want to play this as a team game. And not as a solo adventure, as 'one man army' as you seem to prefer.
What can I say. I can't trust everyone to have basic common sense and see beyond what's in front of their eyes.

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adaliabooks: The other player who is beginning to set off warning signals for me is Sage. She's been very quiet. And after last game I feel I understand her style quite well and she seemed to really gain in confidence by the end, so where is she now? I don't remember seeing many long posts from her, or any strong opinions. It may be nothing, or she may be distracted with other stuff, but I think there might be something there.
From what I talked to her on Steam, I gathered she's busy with the holidays.
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HypersomniacLive: And to get back to the game - you might want to take some of your points and look inwards.
I know, I have been trying to be more vocal. The thing is, if someone says something that coincides with my thought, what use is it for me to just keep coming out and saying I agree all the time, unless if I had something else to add. I'm also going to try to word my comments more carefully. Not because I have something to hide, but to try to avoid anyone thinking what I say has a hidden meaning.
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adaliabooks: The other player who is beginning to set off warning signals for me is Sage. She's been very quiet. And after last game I feel I understand her style quite well and she seemed to really gain in confidence by the end, so where is she now? I don't remember seeing many long posts from her, or any strong opinions. It may be nothing, or she may be distracted with other stuff, but I think there might be something there.
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HijacK: From what I talked to her on Steam, I gathered she's busy with the holidays.
Fair enough. It is a busy time of year for most people.
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ddickinson: I know, I have been trying to be more vocal. The thing is, if someone says something that coincides with my thought, what use is it for me to just keep coming out and saying I agree all the time, unless if I had something else to add. I'm also going to try to word my comments more carefully. Not because I have something to hide, but to try to avoid anyone thinking what I say has a hidden meaning.
That's the thing though, you've only made comments of that sort, you never seem to have anything else to add or share. This could be for a number of reasons, coincidence or rookie lack of confidence not being on the top of my list, though I'm not dismissing the latter.
If your goal is to not draw attention, for any of the possible reasons, I guess you've noticed that it's not working.