The problem with this, as with ALL social issues, is where people draw the line of acceptability. Some people feel that A and B should be equal, others that B should accept an inferior position, and still others that B should shut the hell up and be grateful they're allowed to live. Here in the US, SOOOOO much of what occurs is radically spun by people into hyperbolic extremes. With less people consuming regular news and instead turning to blogs, pundits, vloggers and the like, people become more ensconced in echo chambers, while their "sources" become ever more extreme and outrageous to remain interesting.

The push for gay rights for example is described as a fight for "equal" rights by those that support it, but "special" rights by those that oppose. When I listen to right wing media, I hear the left constantly described as socialist/ communist/ leninist/ markist AND fascist.... all at the same time. The slandering and strawmanning of issues is SOP for everyone today.

To me, when I hear people complain of SJWs, I hear people complaining of minorities getting even the tiniest bit of respect or representation. To them, zero representation is seemingly preferred, and 1% is "pushing an agenda down our throats". From my perspective, it is a STAGGERING double standard, but from theirs, it apparently seems perfectly reasonable.

So the issue is how to have conversations where the people involved have RADICALLY different ideas of what's acceptable... and at what point, if any, a position changes from reasonable to bigoted.

BS. No one complained about The Longest Journey, Immortals, or Dune. Heck, everyone was Ok with Doctor Who, until they started to push agenda last (well, actually previous to last) season.

All my life I've seen people complain about sexual minorities appearing in things, particularly positive portrayals. Same for racial minorities. Just because you haven't, or haven't personally engaged in such, does not mean it hasn't occurred. And to repeat, all this is my perspective. Everyone's experience is different.

As was noted in the most recent other thread on this subject, GoG seems to have rejected any number of other dungeon crawler RPGs, including Fall of the Dungeon Guardians (whose developer made an appearance on the forums to chat very politely and still got nowhere with getting released here), Ruzar the Life Stone, The Quest, Heroes of the Monkey Tavern, Delver, etc. etc.

One can theorize whatever they like. Perhaps it was submitted for consideration on Tuesday, and GoG is biased against Tuesday submissions.

But there's not a lot of evidence GoG is taking every other possible dungeon crawler and that Grimoire is somehow singled out for politics. If anything, rejecting a dungeon crawler that doesn't have the sales numbers of a Grimrock seems to fit a larger pattern in its own right.

Will I probably end up buying Grimoire on Steam someday? Maybe. Of the list above, I bought 3 already, and will probably continue slowly picking up other dungeon crawlers as sales/cash allow.

Well, MY perspective is that most people don't care about race, gender, sexuality, etc. Yes, there are straight people who don't like, or even outright hate gays. But there are also people among gays, who hate straights. I personally saw how on one forum a gay guy said that one of the main problem today is overpopulation and it's straight people's fault.

I mean -what if-, and hear me out, [reads thread]…

…GOG just really doesn't want to be involved with an author who is a known drama llama?

I mean let's face it, the community of Steam is galactic space where the noise to signal radio is often vast, even on the individual community hubs.

On GOG, the simple fact is, it's a small community, and any thread posted tends to be dead on in terms of signal. The actual content may be noise, but (especially if you set the number of threads viewable to the maximum), they'll often stick around a while. Imagine if Cleve went on some unhinged diatribe. Short of an administrative lock, nothing would stop that thread.

I think it's interesting (and sad) that I espouse a middle philosophy that respects all sides (although shows they each bear some responsibility for the currentstate of political discourse) and I'm rated negatively. Therein lies the problem. Instead of a thoughtful reply, just vote it down. Sad.

Exactly. Politics be damned, maybe GOG thinks he's such a colossal douche that they don't even want to risk the potential headache of dealing with him.

Considering especially that Fez was pulled over the understandable misunderstanding of a mistake in hiring leading to the eventual misplacement of some words that no matter how you slice them, were in poor taste but ultimately were not the word or opinion of GOG itself, and what theatrics that creator pulled beforehand; one might guess that GOG is both sore in the bottom and wary on such matters.

Did you read what I wrote?
Problem is there are many, many, many creators with "strong personalities." Part of that comes with the territory.

I'm heartened to see Kingdom Come Deliverance on GoG. IMO it certainly was unfairly savaged. The inclusion of that game would seem to suggest GoG isn't coming at curation from a political view.

Oh no, not again...
Popcorn ready:)

Certainly; but there are places for everything. Even if Lenin himself was brought back to life and started posting, I feel it'd be fair to inform him that this is primarily a forum for video games. If he understood that and started posting about Super Mario instead, that indeed would be absolutely fine.

Note: this would not be applicable if GOG had proper dividing lines between the major topics of discussion. Say akin to Reddit or Neogaf.

Yes! Good to hear from someone who has played it!

Coming from film, early in my life I met and worked with some Hollywood filmmaking idols... and almost all of them were "terrible people." I was presented with the fact that I hated these peoples' personalities, but I enjoyed... and in fact saw value... in their work.

BTW, just watched Cleve's Indiegogo campaign video. That's pure gold!

Still think it's weird getting down voted in a thread about that very topic. So, it must have been from someone who took issue with my stance, but I'll never know (and I would chance a guess they never read my whole post and digested what was said). A down vote in a thread talking about that very issue is pretty kooky... and in fact shows the exact problem people are having truly conversing.