Are you role fishing? :P

Oh dear.

Are you setting blatent traps??!!...;o)

Haha sorry about that. Still reading mine trough and trying to organize it, so you'll be able to wait until tomorrow before m10 gives you another lengthy post from me.

But yea, I can't really see why nmillar find my claim so hard to believe, but I do also understand why he doesn't want to just accept it as town. Others have however pushed me a lot on the subject, so in my own opinion I have/had a perfectly legit reason to reveal it.

As Rod so rightly comments, we'll know a lot more about multiple's or not tomorrow, as I am unable to kill. Eventual trackers are free to check if they want to waste time doing it - and the flavor I guess would also reveal the lack of similarity in the kill if we have any. And thats where the problem comes in, because - if you believe like nmillar in the mafia multi-setup, not considering other options, then the fact that the possible third night kill is different is taken as proof of 3 different killers. However if its similar to the first day, but different from the second day, it might be taken as a proof of my claim. If its almost the same as the one I claimed.. well then you have my support to vote for me. Heck I would vote for myself if that was the case. Any more options of what could be gained7learned that I missed?

Anyhow I currently still don't see nmillar as scum, as I am rather certain its just his way, although as mentioned earlier, it is might be slowly moving up, depending on what happens. Damnation is mostly just acting upon my post and the language I use, which I've seen him do before in order to ensure correct posts with no misunderstandings. Though I believe that the posts I quoted and the subject in general does speak as to why I find discussing it pointless. Knowing its a possibility however is very good to keep in mind.

If some of this post is repetition or plain odd, it might be due to me being very tired. In any case, good night for today - Will do a better post/read tomorrow of the latest..

Yup, more time and less craziness makes my posts expand to walls on a regular basis :D.

But there are a few things I think I need to address.

@Baron: I'm not sure my post is viable in this situation anymore though. It was originally posted when we didn't have anything else except for 1 night's kill to work from, and the lack of information kept us from having an honest debate. Here? Well, I can understand people pointing the finger of a potential second mafia.

@NFY: I still stand by what I said, we couldn't have left Rod in the game once he came out as a liar because of how hard it would be to trust his own words. That said, for the sake of my sanity (his play and reasoning has been bothering me, especially once I had more time to devote to it). My choice of what to trust wasn't motivated by trusting his words, but by what fits. What I can press from the outside is what I trusted, and if I couldn't come up with a way of verifying if it was true or not (like the 4 people), I simply chose to brush off. It has holes, it's probably not the only way of seeing things, but I think it's fairly viable.

I'm still here and still catching up.

I'd still like nmillar to expand on this:
ancient history, though it may be.

At the time of writing, he appeared to be outting town power roles.

... uh...

@nmillar take two: what gives you such a strong town read on Damnation? I'm curious now.

@Bard: You current stance seems to negate the principle of lynching liars, i.e. that EVERYTHING they have said becomes suspect and untrustworthy. But I think I understand why if it's for reasons of getting your head around what he was up to. Personally I gave up on trying to understand Rod's motives a long while ago...

I know, it was mostly meant as quotes to show people's argument in regards of the multi mafia thing, due to nmillars post. And yes, if your not me and know for sure what alignment the killer is, then its understandable - yet regretful if this kill is taken as a second mafia faction killing. However if its taken a what it is, me during the killing with a one shot, and as such is used to say.. hmm there is more factions that can kill, but also something preventing them from the kill or something, then maybe it could tell something about the setup? A setup with the remaining mafia members being from the 3 factions, 1 faction for each member, each being able to kill? Might also be something. But yea anyway, quotes to show that others have/or had the same opinion as me in regards to the kill. Mainly due to it apparently being used as a reason to find me scummy.

On another subject: Good to hear Zchinque, looking forward to your continued reactions.

Now onward to post massive WOT in m10 :P

Well, I still haven't finished reading through the mountain of posts that I've failed to keep up with over the past month, but here's what I was thinking when I went inactive:

CONVINCED TOWN:
Baz

PROBABLY TOWN:
Damnation
Curward
Red_Baron


PROBABLY MAFIA:
Nmillar
Twilight
Robbeasy

NOT SURE:
Primal
NotFrenchYet
Orry


I don't quite remember all my reasons behind my reads, and I doubt this is going to be useful to anyone, but it will at least get me somewhat back into the game while I try to figure out what the heck has been going on while I was gone.

2- Nmillar - jefequeso,Robbeasy
2- Robbeasy - Bazilisek,Sirprimalform
1- Notfrenchyet - Nmillar
1- Red Baron - Damnation


Not Voting - Orryyrro,Zchnique,Notfrenchyet,Red Baron,Twilightbard

Deadline will be Jan 31st

Firstly, unvote Robbeasy. I forgot that was there actually.

I still don't know what to make of Red_Baron. I don't trust him at all, but I don't outright believe he's scum.

nmillar is... well, nmillar. You haven't yet elaborated on your opinion of Damn which.. ugh, I don't know.

Nothing else to share? You're being incredibly quiet this game.

To be honest, I'm feeling quite lost in this game. I feel my powers of deduction are not as good as the rest of the players. I guess rather than regurgitating other people's opinions I'm trying to hold back until I have something meaningful to say and it's just not coming.
Maybe it's time for a reread.

You're experienced enough to know why I haven't elaborated further.