Posted October 17, 2011
Posted October 17, 2011
A vote with no other justification than bandwaggoning.....
I'm sorry if I was a little too quick. I'm new to this as I said. I've only played 2 mafia games in real life, and this is my first forum mafia. I'm finding it's quite a different kettle of fish with lots of subtle rules and stuff which i'm not used to. For example: Why is it bad to 'soft claim'? (indeed what exactly is the difference between softclaiming and normal claiming?)
Since I've clearly done something too hasty; and I still have no idea who to vote for:
unvote xyem
Posted October 17, 2011
Well, that was weird.
Softclaiming is a two edged sword. Mafia might want to plant a fake soft claim relatively early to have something to fall back on if things go wrong, which is the chief reason softclaims are seen as suspicious. As with hard claims, they ultimately only make life easier for the mafia, because townies never ever lie (or at the very least, never ever should lie), so all information coming from the town helps scum narrow down the power roles. Or to rephrase it, through their silence, plain vanilla townies help protect the power roles, which is their job, after all. Giving out information for free is stupid. (Now where have I heard that before?)
The difference between a claim and a softclaim is nothing set in stone. In general, a softclaim is subtler, often just partial, and usually is dropped rather casually. Hard claims are typically only provided by people about to be lynched or power roles coming out in the endgame.
Softclaiming is a two edged sword. Mafia might want to plant a fake soft claim relatively early to have something to fall back on if things go wrong, which is the chief reason softclaims are seen as suspicious. As with hard claims, they ultimately only make life easier for the mafia, because townies never ever lie (or at the very least, never ever should lie), so all information coming from the town helps scum narrow down the power roles. Or to rephrase it, through their silence, plain vanilla townies help protect the power roles, which is their job, after all. Giving out information for free is stupid. (Now where have I heard that before?)
The difference between a claim and a softclaim is nothing set in stone. In general, a softclaim is subtler, often just partial, and usually is dropped rather casually. Hard claims are typically only provided by people about to be lynched or power roles coming out in the endgame.
Posted October 17, 2011
Well, we were screwed since the deadline was issued.
I think it wasn't possible to conclude something in five days.
I would be careful with lynching someone just because we don't have anyone else to lynch ven if he doesn't look much suspicious.
I know nolynch isn't good option but if you look at game 5, this (lynching without evidences) almost lost us the game.
I think it wasn't possible to conclude something in five days.
I would be careful with lynching someone just because we don't have anyone else to lynch ven if he doesn't look much suspicious.
I know nolynch isn't good option but if you look at game 5, this (lynching without evidences) almost lost us the game.
Posted October 17, 2011
Yes, the town almost lost that one, precisely for the reason Vítek gave. It was only thanks to a stroke of luck (and a twist in the setup the mafia did not see coming) that they did win eventually.
Which, incidentally, was how I learned time limits can do more harm than good in the early days. Because I modded that one.
Which, incidentally, was how I learned time limits can do more harm than good in the early days. Because I modded that one.
Posted October 17, 2011
A vote with no other justification than bandwaggoning.....
I'm sorry if I was a little too quick. I'm new to this as I said. I've only played 2 mafia games in real life, and this is my first forum mafia. I'm finding it's quite a different kettle of fish with lots of subtle rules and stuff which i'm not used to. For example: Why is it bad to 'soft claim'? (indeed what exactly is the difference between softclaiming and normal claiming?)
Since I've clearly done something too hasty; and I still have no idea who to vote for:
unvote xyem
Your vote simply said it was jumping on the bandwagon without any other justification.
Not quite so incriminating then....
Posted October 17, 2011
Softclaiming is a two edged sword. Mafia might want to plant a fake soft claim relatively early to have something to fall back on if things go wrong, which is the chief reason softclaims are seen as suspicious. As with hard claims, they ultimately only make life easier for the mafia, because townies never ever lie (or at the very least, never ever should lie), so all information coming from the town helps scum narrow down the power roles. Or to rephrase it, through their silence, plain vanilla townies help protect the power roles, which is their job, after all. Giving out information for free is stupid. (Now where have I heard that before?)
The difference between a claim and a softclaim is nothing set in stone. In general, a softclaim is subtler, often just partial, and usually is dropped rather casually. Hard claims are typically only provided by people about to be lynched or power roles coming out in the endgame.
I'm still a bit lost, but I suppose that's Day 1 for you.
Will read Mafia wiki when I get the chance, I think that will clear up most of my problems; but have just been given two more assignments for uni- bleh!
Posted October 17, 2011
But only because Typhoon was mafia jester and got himself lynched. To this point it looked grim with town.
Orryyrro: While this is true, I think he is the most suspicious, so putting pressure on him is, I believe, the correct thing to do. So you think he should be lynched only because he argued with bazilišek and NotFrench?
Keeping him on L-2 is not so bad thing, though, so while I direct this to you I should FOS:littlerabbit as she was the one to put him to L-1.
I still don't think he should be lynched just because of this.
Softclaiming is hinting i.e. you are nurse and fullclaim is saying you are Town doctor with ability. (Taken from mafia 2)
Keeping him on L-2 is not so bad thing, though, so while I direct this to you I should FOS:littlerabbit as she was the one to put him to L-1.
I still don't think he should be lynched just because of this.
Softclaiming is hinting i.e. you are nurse and fullclaim is saying you are Town doctor with ability. (Taken from mafia 2)
Posted October 17, 2011
Not quite as incriminating, but still somewhat incriminating, as there was no reason not to put the reason with the vote. Granted, it's something I also tend to do, so....