It seems to me that EITHER
Baz and Orry are mafia.
If Orry is mafia we know nothing about baz, but he will be more likely to be town as it's safer to mark town as town when falseclaiming cop then to mark scumbuddy as town, IMO.
If Orry is town, why do you think bazilišek is scum? Unless Orryy is insane (and he could be!) he he got town result on baz.
I agree with baz that Orryy is useless right know and we can't verify his next investigation results at least until end of day 4 which is really late. Only 2 games so far reached Day 6 here and leaving possible scum in our midst for so long could very well spell our doom.
And if his day 4 result (from N3) will be innocent on someone we will be non the wiser. And tzhis is only we presume he won't get NK'd for 2 nights.
So I start to think that he is useless until he's dead.
What about vigging him? Is it bad idea?
Also, don't be so harsh on Joe, please. We don't know how the roles clicks together until we know the whole setup so it's useless (and quite mean) to accuse him of bastard-moddery.
I said either both of them are, or neither of them. Based on Orry falseclaiming Baz as town. But I agree that Orry could have just truthfully pointed Baz as town, but I don't see why he would- that's just me, maybe i'm missing something because I'm unfamiliar with the intricacies of forum mafia.
I never said that if Orry is town, Baz is scum, that's just silly.
IMO Baz is likely to be town.
*looks up vigging* it's not on the mafiawiki, could you please clarify?
I agree with you about holding our peace with joe until we know what's really going on.
@Baz: in which case it seems that Orry is more likely to be town.
What would we gain from lynching Orry if he is town? We would know that Baz is town for definite. We would have also lost the potential for a second investigation.
Looking back at Orry's posts, I'm inclined to think he is town.
He was quick to claim in post 232, which says to me that he had recieved a suggestion about claiming from mod. (flimsey I know, but in his position I'm not sure I would have claimed unless I'd been given specific instructions about claiming that put the idea of early-claiming in my head. But then, if he had received instructions, would that not make him less likely to claim in the first place?)
In post 238 Orry maybe hints that he is more than vanilla: "killing me will do more harm than not killing me" - meaning he's either thought very far ahead with this whole thing, or he is in fact just what he says.
I think we'd do better trying to find a scum-proper today than lynching Orry for having a complicated role.