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Sorry mortals, the end-of-semester rush has caught me as well. Votecount soon as possible.
At last the heat is starting to fade in the air, but the heat in the arguments that rage around the little table grows only fiercer. Market traders begin to sell off their last wares at discount prices; the fisherman begin to head for shore...

The "Last Orders Please" votecount.
A_Future_Pilot has 5 votes, cast by SirPrimalform, Krypsyn, pazzer, Red_Baron, rodzadju
Vitek has 3 votes, cast by nmillar, A_Future_Pilot and Telika
Robbeasy has 2 votes, cast by JoeSapphire and Vitek
Red_Baron has 1 vote, cast by JMich

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A_Future_Pilot is closest to lynch at L-3.

Not voting: Damnation, TwilightBard, Robbeasy.

I'm prepared to extend the deadline by 24 hours to the 17th December 2300 GMT - all in favour, please make yourselves known.
Definitely in favour of extension.

And - didnt realise i wasn't voting, forgot it was automatically unvoted with the replacements

vote red_baron
Here, and in favour of extension.
Started the re-read, mostly focusing on the people with votes on them atm.
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Robbeasy: Oh no Sir!
Huh?

Oh right.

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Telika: I mostly expect a_f_p to flip town, and would mostly expect you to flip mafia in night 2.
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Oh and yeah, a deadline extension would be appreciated.

I can't understand why some people are giving AFP so much slack... yes he's new, but he's said some really scummy things, promised explanations and then been really absent since then.
I too, am in favour of extending the deadline.
Also, as with Red_Baron, I'm fairly busy with my semester project, so I will not really be that active until the 20th. I'll try to get in something over the weekend though.
Yeah, I'm in favour of extending the deadline for at least another week. With the busy season at work in full flow (I work for a high-range ski / snowboard company), GOG Secret Santa and a website project, I'm pretty much flat-out right up till Christmas.
I am pretty ambivalent about extending the deadline, honestly. However, I'll note that I'll be going out of town from Dec 21 to Dec 27 for Christmas, so I would ask that the Day not get extended beyond that point. I will certainly have internet (unless things in California have gotten far worse than I thought :P), but there is no telling how much I'll be able to pry myself away from "family fun" ;).
Yep, in favor of extension.

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Robbeasy: Definitely in favour of extension.

And - didnt realise i wasn't voting, forgot it was automatically unvoted with the replacements
Oh good to be clear about that - So now I see that I have the same huge bandwagon on me that you kept talking about in regards yourself.. two votes? (Sarcasm intended). So the bandwagon I was to talk in support about just in case I needed to do so later was 2 votes?? Thats not even a bandwagon - and my last post point about it stands as well - only case where I would need to voice my support for a bandwagon just in case, would be if I were scum and knew you were too. In fact the mere fact that Vitek seems to agree with you on that post and that you consider him town would almost add my first hint of suspicion on him. Two votes aren't a bandwagon and your whole process about it and given that your using it as an argument is odd.
So decided to take a look back to see where Robbeasy actually posted an argument for voting for me.. turns out he never did.... He did however post an argument for voting Damuna (which is sorta me - so I accept it :P):

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Robbeasy: Damuna / Krypsyn - I'm still of the opinion that at least one of these two and in all likelihood both are Mafia. Krypsyn is a devious chap and very good player - I can just see him taking the step of attacking a fellow Mafia , and its worked nicely as everyone has given him perfect reasons for backing off. I do acknowledge this reasoning is something of a reach though.
Damuna is another kettle of fish entirely - the statistics post she used to push a lynch on me was, in my opinion, full of misdirection and falseties. Calling me a lurker for instance - yes least number of posts, but those posts were not short posts of someone who lurks - i had things to say, accusations to make - hardly the actions of a lurker.

Damn - gotta go, train leaves very soon. For other posts since where Damuna has been over-sensitive to a few Mafia accusations thrown her way, and my reasonings given above, I'm going to
So the argument your voting with i that she voted for you and tried to get you lynched and that Krypsyn is a good player that would if he was mafia see the advantage of attacking a fellow mafia - which would be Damuna.. now me. And finally that she have been oversensitive in regards to mafia accusations thrown her way.. But thats also what your doing? Voting due to accusation thrown your way.
And while we're on that topic:
Want to talk about Wishy Washy support of a bandwagon, to later clear your hands just in case:
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Robbeasy: I'm also not all that happy at the speed of the wagon on Vitek - something doesn't sit right with it. Paradoxically, I can see why people are voting for him, a little too defensive and not coherent - usually he always makes a good point with his posts, but seems a little all over the place this time. Don't know if thats because some of the accusations are a little all over the place themselves, and I dont really support his lynch either.
Damn, and the interesting thing is that you are in fact often flip-flopping in regards to Vitek.. sometimes getting no scum from him, other times seeing why he would gather suspicion. And all the while Vitek is trying to lynch you without much success - a lynch I would gladly support if not for A_F_P at this point - even if I have a wild theory about Vitek and Robbeasy being on the same team and just trying to create a pro-town in the form of Vitek - but since it makes no sense I consider it pure paranoia.

Also noticing in regards to post 727: The 3 parts your talking about JMIch, not sure they make any sense to me.. I get the Krypsyn/Damuna interaction, although I don't get how so few recognized the joke in it.. I did even before I joined the game.
The Krypsyn/Red_Baron interaction - What interaction - That I responded to the joke with a nonsense answer after I replaced in - juts like many others did?
And why is this before me replacing Damuna? In fact why is me replacing Damuna part of your list of 3 coincidences you don't believe in. The whole part there makes no sense.

In point to other part of that post, though I have already answered it I feel I should do it with a post number attached: Your asking why I didn't comment on other subjects on the list, well since I had already commented on them in the list and none asked me about them since - so no you shouldn't take them as sleepy rambling. In fact the only sleepy part was me recalling a wrong post for Robbeasy, hence a wrong argument in favor of a connection between him and Krypsyn.

I will likely be little active from now on until the 20th - but at least there is some food for thought.
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Red_Baron: ....snip...
So lynch me.

I'm fast getting to the point where lynching me would clear up so much mud stirring and blatant transparent attacking by Mafia that it would only be a bonus for Town.

The point of this game is to be strong in your beliefs. I've never deviated from my targets from an early stage , even though I've never really got any support for them from other players.

So lynch me, if it gives weight to my theories then I'm all for it. I will still win if Town wins, so its all good.

lets stop the walls of text and the attempts to obfuscate - put your money where your mouth is. I'll be vindicated whatever happens.

Deadline is approaching
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Robbeasy: So lynch me.

I'm fast getting to the point where lynching me would clear up so much mud stirring and blatant transparent attacking by Mafia that it would only be a bonus for Town.

The point of this game is to be strong in your beliefs. I've never deviated from my targets from an early stage , even though I've never really got any support for them from other players.

So lynch me, if it gives weight to my theories then I'm all for it. I will still win if Town wins, so its all good.

lets stop the walls of text and the attempts to obfuscate - put your money where your mouth is. I'll be vindicated whatever happens.

Deadline is approaching
Hmm... I seem to recall you mentioning something about these sort of posts:

In Post 302:
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Robbeasy: Also making sure you leave a 'challenge' post in there as well (post 265 - 'But, hey, if you think I am scum, then vote for me. Voting is the only way anything will get done on Day 1.' ) - I hate these, its like saying 'make a decision on me - go on, do it now!', knowing that the innate cautiousness of people will make them come down on the Town side. Scum tactics...
Also, in Post 553:

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Robbeasy: And I hate the 'hey vote for me' posts - I still think they are a scum tactic of actually achieving the reverse.
Interesting. ;)
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Robbeasy: So lynch me.
Well gotta agree with Krypsyn there :) But anyway no, I am not voting for you, because just like you yourself wrote: be strong in belief. My first target and prime one is A_F_P that haven't changed. You have placed yourself on the list of alternative targets as suspected mafia and your staying there. But your not my prime target so A_F_P stays (unless he makes a really really good explanation in the post he keeps promising - doubtful).
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Robbeasy: Oh no Sir!
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SirPrimalform: Huh?

Oh right.

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Telika: I mostly expect a_f_p to flip town, and would mostly expect you to flip mafia in night 2.
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SirPrimalform: ?

Oh and yeah, a deadline extension would be appreciated.

I can't understand why some people are giving AFP so much slack... yes he's new, but he's said some really scummy things, promised explanations and then been really absent since then.
Well, given that I just finished my read, I can answer this at least. I'm not giving him slack, as much as I want him to answer my questions. I'm pretty prepared to hammer at this point, but since we have a bit of time, I see no reason not to wait to get answers. He did say he was going to be busy this week, so I'm expecting something by the weekend.

After AFP, Baron's probably my biggest suspect, although it's almost all based on what Damuna said. I'm giving him slack more because of 'It's a game' and I know how frustrating and unpleasant it is trying to defend yourself against a case that feels primarily based on stuff that you can't defend against. He gets a bit of slack, in order to let him make his own slips.

The line of suspicion on Vitek...doesn't make the least bit of sense to me, so I'm not going to get near that wagon with a 50 foot pole. I just don't see more then pressure being used and recycled.

Ummmm, I do see the case on Robbeasy a bit, but, I'm not confident enough there to put forth a vote. Waiting to see if AFP says anything, if not, I'll see what happens there.
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Robbeasy: So lynch me.

I'm fast getting to the point where lynching me would clear up so much mud stirring and blatant transparent attacking by Mafia that it would only be a bonus for Town.

The point of this game is to be strong in your beliefs. I've never deviated from my targets from an early stage , even though I've never really got any support for them from other players.

So lynch me, if it gives weight to my theories then I'm all for it. I will still win if Town wins, so its all good.

lets stop the walls of text and the attempts to obfuscate - put your money where your mouth is. I'll be vindicated whatever happens.

Deadline is approaching
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Krypsyn: Hmm... I seem to recall you mentioning something about these sort of posts:

In Post 302:
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Robbeasy: Also making sure you leave a 'challenge' post in there as well (post 265 - 'But, hey, if you think I am scum, then vote for me. Voting is the only way anything will get done on Day 1.' ) - I hate these, its like saying 'make a decision on me - go on, do it now!', knowing that the innate cautiousness of people will make them come down on the Town side. Scum tactics...
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Krypsyn: Also, in Post 553:

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Robbeasy: And I hate the 'hey vote for me' posts - I still think they are a scum tactic of actually achieving the reverse.
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Krypsyn: Interesting. ;)
Sometimes you lose patience with all the back and forth, what can i say?!

Its first day - as I mentioned before , its hard. I don't like it.
Pazzer - Vitek started out being negative, told me and other people off for posting lists. I felt like it was unusual behaviour. Then his reaction to me and his spat with SirPrimalform made me more interested. At one time I was very convinced by the idea. Somewhere in tea-and-cake-break that energy dissipated and now Rob holds my attention. Vitek gave me a small amount of support in my investigation of Rob so I'm trusting him for now.


Uhhhh you can extend the deadline by a day if you want. I'ld like people to get their act together. We have had long enough really but a day isn't really going to make too much of a difference either way. I can do my best to make sure there is a lynch either sunday or monday, blahblahblahblahblah why am I explaining so much?


Rob's right. Lynch him.

Future Pilot - I feel it's only fair that he gets to play more than day one. Also I've begun to anticipate him flipping town but it's probably my stoic cynicism.