And I don't know about you, but I'd much rather lose a good game than win a boring one.
Quoted for win :9 Thats how I saw mafia 10 :P
Some comments to the post in general:
Therefore: Detlik, what happens when you vote, if you actually can do so? And I'd appreciate if you could also demonstrate by voting someone -- me, if you want to. That is unless you believe that this would somehow unbalance the game (or if it would, say, insta-kill me; I don't think I'd like that). The cat's tail is sticking out of the bag already, might as well take a look at the whole animal.
Dunno if its just me, but if Detlik clearly doesn't want to say it (since he clearly mentions it without saying more), this strikes me as an obvious intent to get it out of him without having town interest in mind. As long as he is unknown he might not be the preferred target for scum. If he makes a full claim the mafia will likely consider offing him if his role is good enough - right know its uncertain and my guess would be that his newness to the game somewhat serves as a protection as well. I am surprised that you don't mention GoJays case against xzyem at all? That case should give you something, since you are already commenting that xzyem is doing some good scumhunting (which I don't understand since I can't recall a post where he actually hunted for scum??).
Gotta split your read about me a bit:
his voting pattern is opportunistic to say the least (not to mention that one unvote at #151 to escape what started looking like a dangerous stack of votes on Damuna -- this felt mighty odd at that time and still does).
I know that I was not aware of who I voted for in the RVS stage when I made my unvote, but if your using this as a case in your argument at least get your facts straight... I was not voting for Damuna..I was voting for Jef!
I was one of those complaining about the vote stacking on Damuna
But whats with the vote stacking on Damuna? Seems to me like it was just a failure at making a RVS vote.
Also fence sitting? Again that one. I don't see how I am considered to be fence sitting when I state my own opinion and disagree with others.. ? Also if I recall I took a clear stance with Damuna - and gave several reason for it. If I was agreeing with you and not taking a stance I could see what you mean, but I dislike being accused of fence sitting simply because I begin several of my arguments by lining up the opinions/reasons then stating my own + reaction due to it. If you read some of my older stuff from for instance you'll see that I tend to do that (either by writing or by quoting - however I have tried in this game to keep myself a little shorter in writing - Pink rule ;)).
And there's a lot of "I agree with you guys" on whatever is the case of the hour (#571 is a good example there), too. Almost feels as if he didn't want to step on any toes -- which is quite unlike the Red_Baron I know.
Disagreeing with an argument or agreeing with it is now the problem.. so when you say:
Rodzaju: I agree with the Bard here. The issue of Lynch All Liars is a complex one -snip-
your not doing exactly the same? Its a bit more simply to say that I agree with someone who made a good argument than restating it again. However if you might want to check again you'll notice that in those post its not just a "I agree" post, it begins with an agreement with my reasoning following close behind. I am also not agreeing with both parties of a conflict so explain please how agreeing with one.. or posting something that goes against someone else ideas is not stepping on any toes? What you actually want to say here is that you haven't seen me make major case against someone, because with the exception of two posts that would be more true.
Rodzaju: I -snip- Quite honestly, I do not think Rodzaju is advocating this out of malice, but I cannot rule it out. -snip-
This part is almost spot on what type of posts I have written quite a bit of.. yet thats what you find so scummy?
Final stuff - hope it can be in one post.
SirPrimalform: Is only truly active in off-topic discussions. There's very little else you could say about him.
Other than doing so seems quite like an attempt not to step on any toes as you have accused me of? Or that it could be scummy? I am pointing this out because I see your case against me being based on some sort of individual idea rather than then actual arguments your presenting. (If that made sense)
Xzyem: I like this guy. The change in his playing style is quite jarring, but other than that, I see him asking good questions and trying to actively scumhunt, which isn't exactly common here.
Huh? Good questions and scumhunting? As already said I don't recall seeing that from him. I recall GoJays hunting him, but not the other way.
Though the question weren't to me, I'll use this to give my two cents about it.
What do you read this as evidence of, and how?
I believe they read it as him saying that he thought all players was mafia and was to kill one another - thus he must be mafia to gain that misconception (if he was town how would he get that idea). What is apparently missed is that it can also be interpreted as him talking about his ideas of the game before the game began.