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It wouldn't be me without a stupid error. This time I am just tired and didn't even bother to proof-read until after I posted. Bleh.

What I meant to say is that "I agree that scum and/or people with power roles must be hidden amongst the more active players."

Well, if they get targeted for a lynch, then they can role-claim and give info about their actions. I don't think they should give up any information at this stage unless pressured to do so by lynch. I would rather a useful town role have a chance at living another Day rather than reveal themselves to everyone and be a sure kill at Night, unless they have a major reveal (e.g. being able to implicate 2+ scum). Trading only a scum identity for a RB/BG town role isn't a good trade currently, in my estimation.

I should by now just assume that everyone I am pretty confident is scum is in reality town. :(

Also welcome back among the living Rodzaju and good to see your starting of with an active attitude :D I must however both agree and disagree with you. While I feel in agreement with you that it would be likely that those still active do have a scum among them, I feel more inclined to go for Twilightbard given my pattern so far to nailing my targets among the town population rather than the scum, hence if I reverse my idea - so instead of going for Krypsyn (my other suspect in the case of earlier with Robbeasy) I will go for Twilightbard (Primarily because you are so new in your new role and the former bodies that soul have inhabited haven't really given me grounds to call it active and in case of SPF much of the same applies - That leaves only 2 active people to do the reversal on.. me being the other - since I am not counting Krypsyn for now (Knowing Krypsyns behavior in the game so far I am certain he'll make a long post that will change my mind about the reversal theory)).

So vote TwilightBard

In regards to the nightkill it is delightful to finally not see two deaths every night, which have been a sore pain so often, and gives rise to the hope that we indeed do still have some chance... of course it could also just mean that both factions targeted Robbeasy. And yes, by now I believe everyone is pretty much in agreement with the earlier argument we had that there is two factions of scum at play here, even if we don't have other clues than the "non" and the fact that two people usually dies every night. There is of course the slight possible reason that we don't have two nightkills today, because one of the factions have already been wiped - since if I recall correct it was last night that the only dead scum was hit? If so we could be dealing with two teams of ones however unlikely.

Simply because not ALL of the scum are among the most active players.
You didn't want to appear too eager to vote for vote someone you knew was NOT your scumbuddy.

This "letting others pick the target" is classic scumplay....

WIFOM argument is WIFOM.

It doesn't even hold water, because I was the first vote on SirPrimalform and the first vote on Robbeasy. Whose lead was I following there? I took my vote off SirPrimalform after he finally gave me a valid reason for his 2-mafias theory. I kept my vote on Robbeasy (with a short break so he didn't get lynched without more discussion) until finally giving up and voting for a target, stoicsentry, that I felt might actually result in moving the game forward. I will note, I was also the first vote on stoicsentry, although I admit I did make it because I knew TwilightBard and possibly Red Baron would go along with it (thus moving the game forward).

So, I don't think your argument is very valid. In my opinion, if there is one person in this game who isn't waiting on others to stick their necks out and make choices first, it is me. In fact, TwilightBard, Red Baron, Robbeasy, and SirPrimalform all thought I was too gung-ho Yesterday. Whatever, I am just damned if I do and damned if I don't, it seems. ;)

If I didn't know better, I would suspect you of acting scummy. However, I am confident you are town, and that you will strive to do no harm to town willingly, so you won't be receiving my lynch vote.

I am always accused of acting scummy.
I guess it's just my style.

Why are you so confident I am town?

Just wanted to note that I was the one who suggested it as a last resort, so I would say that it was indeed quite possible that I would vote for it, since I already said I would :P

As for Rodzaju acting scummy, I don't entirely agree.. I believe your just acting odd in a manner outside the usual pattern hence that makes you seem different and a likely candidate. Not that I have noted it so far for your resurrected role.

It shouldn't be brain surgery to figure it out, at least not for you.

Do you mean I that have changed my behavior over the course of the game? Or do you mean that I just play differently than most other people?

I am pretty consistently an aggressive player. In this game that would, indeed, make me stand out. I am getting tired of getting the same answer of 'you just seem guilty' every time I ask for elaboration. In fact, I am getting so tired of it:

vote Red_Baron

Apparently it weren't as obvious as I thought that I was talking about Rodzaju... not you?

unvote Red_Baron

I am tired and grumpy. I regretted what amounted to a OMGUS vote right after I posted anyway.

Back to my plan of waiting for SirPrimalform to post before placing my vote. Except for Rodzaju, it is all a toss up for me currently. I need to see more dialogue before I can make up my mind. Maybe that proves Rodzaju's point about me waiting for pointers, but I just don't have a clear favorite on whom to place my vote.

Actually, I don't suppose it much matters. Since I am 95% sure Rodzaju is town, that means that all three of you are probably scum (if we go by the theory that we have 3 scum left on two teams). It hardly matters which of you I vote for, in that case. I'll go for the one with the bandwagon.

vote TwilightBard

I don't like how he has been trying to get possibly very pro-town players to role-claim either.

I believe you are at L-1.

Care to comment?

There's not really much to comment. All of the votes have been based on gut feelings, there's no case to speak of. I've been one of the more active players and NO ONE has managed to make a case, despite the speed of the votes. I find that fairly suspicious.

I know no one wants to reread the old days, I know as one of the more active people throughout the game I was an easy target for a lynch based on the fact that I'd have the most perceived slights, but...

Krypsyn's happy to make a bandwagon vote, even though it's very easy for the mafia to jump on targets at L-1 very quickly. He was happy to jump targets yesterday too. I find this both odd and suspicious now.

While I think Red Baron's vote might be a 'fairer' basis, I find it a bit off that he's so willing to work off his gut on a day where it's so easy to lynch someone. Especially someone who hasn't been replaced. If you're gonna make a case, there's bound to be something worth pointing at.

The only defense I have is...watch the bandwagon. This was quick, even compared to LyLo days. Which, we're at. We need to hit one of the second mafia, because hitting one of the non-hammer mafia leaves it at game over. I'd think this would get a bit more discussion.

I have a theory.
If I'm right, the town have a good chance of winning this.
If I'm wrong it's game over.

Frankly, I'm not convinced anyone will be particularly sorry to see the end of this, so while I hope I'm right, it's a risk I'm willing to take.

If anyone is interested, I will explain all tomorrow, if there is a tomorrow.....

Unvote Krypsyn; Vote Twilightbard.