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NotFrenchYet: Primal and I were occupied with the same gig a couple of weekends ago, but that doesn't excuse him now. =_=
It was the last week of my 'employability' course so I've been pretty busy, plus I had a gig on monday night and went to a session on wednesday. The good news is that now I have more time. I don't feel or look any more employable though. =(

Perhaps it only takes effect when I get the certificate?
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Red_Baron: Snip..
I kinda have to ask though, what are you looking for? A specific reason why I posted that? I'm kinda confused by it.

As far as NFY's post, and a reply, I really only have 2 major points to bring up.

- As far as a weak argument undermining your whole case...maybe it's how I see it, but it does make you look at things with a more critical eye instead of being more accepting. And, I do think you overreacted at all to turn it into a point (Which, btw, I was the other person he mixed up, besides you.) To be honest that's why I did my whole point by point post. This one argument was the reasoning because I thought that if that was there, and it really did stand out, then the stuff I was willing to accept might not be as strong as I thought.

- As far as the OMGUS vote...I think this is one time when Your Mileage May Vary, or again, I am seeing things a bit differently. When I think of OMGUS I think of an argument that doesn't exist and a return vote with very little behind it. I actually read Stoic as trying to cover his ass...

I guess, I'm just really suspicious at this point. I'm more then a little paranoid and the people popping up and hiding again are putting me more on edge then I probably should be. This is turning out to be a very hard game to read.
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Red_Baron: [snip] The likeliness of 3 mafias being part of the 7 active and all of them gunning for NFY.. minimal at best. [snippity]
Good point, as much as I hate to admit it. -_- I bet one of them is though.
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Red_Baron: Well that is part of my troubles for getting into this again. It really depends on the point of view I take when reading this. My preferred point of view is that you NFY found a correct target and then his two buddies tried to save him (him being stoic)... The reason of that is due to me agreeing with NFY before the others got involved, with stoics post giving me a scummy vibe and with some arguments that reminded me of a was it game 10? But now comes the reason why I can't believe that point of view, as there is several things speaking against it. The likeliness of 3 mafias being part of the 7 active and all of them gunning for NFY.. minimal at best.
In addition to that, it doesn't make much sense for anyone to defend scumbuddies in this game, anyway.

Right now, we need almost a unanimous vote among active players. So the best way to handle it if a scumbuddy is in trouble is merely to say *nothing*, as far as I can tell. You simply withhold your vote against them and they will probably be fine.

And if there were actually 3 mafia among the active (we agree, that's unlikely), then this point holds true even more so. Take all the active players, subtract 3 mafia not voting for each other and there's no way there would be a day lynch.
Yeah, well, that's all just idle speculation, really. The point is that there are way too many inactive players, which means we're hopelessly stuck.

Damnation, we absolutely need mod intervention. Replacements, modkills, something.
Yeah, apart from Rob asking to be replaced, Xzyem has been gone for a month today.
Apologies again for inactivity. Coursework and exam revision are piling up at this point. I've tried reading over things and keeping up, but... well, that led to the sentence that made a lot more sense in my head before I typed it in my previous post, which I put together at around 8 before lectures.
Guys? The deadline is TOMORROW.

I propose an emergency plan: we lynch one of the inactives and Damn modkills the other.

There are 13 alive... worst case scenario, we lose two at twilight, then another two overnight. That leaves nine. If there are four mafia we're at LyLo instantly, but we haven't lost yet. There's also the chance that Robb or xzyem were mafia, or that if there are two groups of two the in-fighting might take out another overnight. Or someone might bag the (hypothetical) SK.

I know we'll be back where we started on D3 (!!!) but from there at least things might run a little smoother. We've had so many pieces fall out of this game already that I'd be willing to give the whole thing a good shake and continue into D3 with a full complement of players to give us a fighting chance.

Thoughts?

Vote Robbeasy.
Ohhhhh my god I didn't think that through at all. That's not LyLo at all is it? That's Game Over.

IGNORE THE POST ABOVE please.

This is what happens when I post before my morning cup of tea...

Unvote Robbeasy.
Post edited April 30, 2012 by NotFrenchYet
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NotFrenchYet: Guys? The deadline is TOMORROW.
Yeah, but the mod is missing.

I'm not supporting a policy lynch. The deadline should be extended, anyway, because we've been severely crippled for a very long time now. A forced lynch wouldn't solve anything at all; no new information, right back at square one.
*Headdesk*

Grovelling apologies for the double-posting...
I don't even know what to do now.

Maybe we lynch xzyem and see if that shakes something loose? Does that make sense? I'm thinking it either makes perfect sense or no sense at all, but I'm not sure which.
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NotFrenchYet: Guys? The deadline is TOMORROW.
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bazilisek: Yeah, but the mod is missing.

I'm not supporting a policy lynch. The deadline should be extended, anyway, because we've been severely crippled for a very long time now. A forced lynch wouldn't solve anything at all; no new information, right back at square one.
But even if the deadline is extended we'll just be prolonging this same torture. Unless both are modkilled and we extend, this still leaves us going in circles.
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bazilisek: Damnation, we absolutely need mod intervention. Replacements, modkills, something.
You're absolutely right, but I have been very distressed about what to do in this situation, which has led to my absence.

The issue is I am most definately sure I am unable to find replacements for the players that are absent, and I am not one for modkilling (Killing off Damuna was tough enough on me already).

Considering that we have a selection of players still going, and that I fear I am powerless myself in this situation, I must ask all of you - would you like to see this game continueing?

If the answer is yes, the deadline will be extended for as long as necessary, as Rob has to be replaced, xzyem and QuadrAlien are absent and others are not very active (I know most try to hit the day-between-posts requirement).

So yeah, I need you guys' input on this, as I feel powerless myself in this situation.
I hate the thought of giving up on a game & view this as very much a last resort.
However, this game has limped along for a while now....
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Rodzaju: I hate the thought of giving up on a game & view this as very much a last resort.
However, this game has limped along for a while now....
It has, but I don't think it's quite dead, we've started getting more jolts of activity...

I do have one suggestion...what about bringing nmillar and Vitek back as replacements for Rob and say, xzyem? Quad has posted so he's not an immediate flight risk, and I'm not sure what nmillar got back as his night action. But, we'd have some vocal people again.