Ah crap I just realised I was reading a phantom 'town' in Rodzaju's role designation (I have a cold, shush.). Point taken about the towniness or lack-thereof, and this does have implications for the balance. Hmmm. Out of 16 that's 1 confirmed 3rd party. I'm inclined to agree with you that this does indeed point to 2M + SK. Anything else (3M1SK or 4M) gives 5/16 non-town, which is just evil. Okay maybe we're not quite as screwed as I thought.

@Stoic, yes, personally I'm afraid your gut feelings are looking verrrrry fishy right now..! I have a re-read in progress though, will post more fully ASAP.

((Good point baz, forgot about that.. Found a solution though; I changed my title to make life a little easier on you all. I could be NotQuadYet now.))

... excellent shot.

Slight stress in the school, since Grading period is coming to the end, so I will only post every now and then for few next days, but after that I will be much more active. And I blame everyone who has mustache for those murders.

Well howdy people - I know i've been very quiet, but I'm back on an even keel now and should be able to contribute more.

Looks like we're in deep doo-doo then - taking a right beating...ok lets get this day going...

His role claim ha been verified, but I was once the Hammer vote in a game...and I was Mafia, so I see no reason at all why this one couldnt be the same....also we have enough power roles out there for town already.

Vote Detlik

If I could vote I would vote you just out of principle...also no offence, but could someone explain to me the logic of placing vote on Town?

Welcome back Robb! :)

@GoJays, did you block stoic?

You know of at least one example in which someone who was mafia had this role and therefore, him having this role makes him mafia? Come on now.

Vote Robbeasy

Yup. Reasons were outlined in my first Day 3 post. Plus if there's a serial killer in this game I wanted to see who it could potentially be.

I'm very curious as to why Robbeasy suddenly jumps in the game wanting Detlik dead. Before I do anything I would like to hear from him why all of a sudden he has Detlik as a target.

I have Detlik as a target because frankly, there isn't a whole deal of stuff to go on even now, after two loooooong days. The reason given is at least as good as any other I've seen so far!

I have been very quiet, but i have been trying to at least keep up with reading the thread.

Ok, I'm back and in the process of catching up on the thread. I don't know if anyone else has brought this up yet, but I want to say it now in case I forget.

Except he wasn't! Pay attention... he was a survivor, a third party.

5/16 non-town isn't as evil as it sounds when they're not all in the same faction. It's not that town lose when they equal the number of non-town, it's that the mafia win when the number of other players equal them in size, so in that sense survivors and serial killers count as town because they vote 'individually'. Let's say the setup was 3M+SK+S: it would be perfectly possible for the last day to dawn with the 3 mafia, the serial killer and the survivor alive along with only two townies. Although town is obviously screwed, the mafia don't have a majority yet.

Basically, I don't think it's wise to rule out 5/16 non-town as being too cruel or unbalanced. D=



Well it explains things, but it also highlights how much he didn't read the rules. D=<

My, I know I've been quiet, but please don't follow my example everyone!!

Interesting that my prod at Detlik got a couple of very quick reactions - Stoic and GoJays. I'm going to read back through a few things now before I make further comment

I'm currently somewhat overwhelmed at work, and my reread of D2 is not going too well. Sorry about that.

I will, however, do one thing:

vote SirPrimalform

I'll provide the explanation later. As always with me, it's a bit complicated, and I'll probably change my mind once I start typing it up anyway.

Did I make a mistake in my maths? =S

No, it stretches way back into the murky depths of the unreadably gigantic mess that was Day Two.