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I am newbie here but I am AGAINST lynching PenutBrittle, for simple reason. He is seeking replacement. Which doesn't prove anything. He could be Mafia,sure but for all I care he is a townie. So I am for keeping him alive, and lynching the replacement only for actions of the replacement, not because PenutBrittle will quit.
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Detlik: I am newbie here but I am AGAINST lynching PenutBrittle, for simple reason. He is seeking replacement. Which doesn't prove anything. He could be Mafia,sure but for all I care he is a townie. So I am for keeping him alive, and lynching the replacement only for actions of the replacement, not because PenutBrittle will quit.
And here is the problem.
This is purely hypothetical because we don't have enough input to judge Penut.
But let's assume he has been posting & has raised suspicion.
He requests a replacement.
The replacement acts perfectly normally.
A suspected scum has got away with it.....
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Detlik: I am newbie here but I am AGAINST lynching PenutBrittle, for simple reason. He is seeking replacement. Which doesn't prove anything. He could be Mafia,sure but for all I care he is a townie. So I am for keeping him alive, and lynching the replacement only for actions of the replacement, not because PenutBrittle will quit.
I agree with you completely but I don't think his lynch someones agenda right now. He was voted only for being inactive here and posting elsewhere on GOG but now when he posted I don't think it's issue anymore.
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SirPrimalform: I can see where Rod is coming from, a replacement is always bad. The person replacing has a lot of work to do and it screws up everybody's reads.
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Vitek: And do you agree that it's better to lynch such person?
If you have reason to suspect them, yes. As Rod said, if they get replaced then it's easy to lose track of suspicions. Basically: if you think someone should be lynched and they're in danger of being replaced, it's best to do it before they get replaced.
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Detlik: I am newbie here but I am AGAINST lynching PenutBrittle, for simple reason. He is seeking replacement. Which doesn't prove anything. He could be Mafia,sure but for all I care he is a townie. So I am for keeping him alive, and lynching the replacement only for actions of the replacement, not because PenutBrittle will quit.
I understand where you're coming from, but the bit I bolded is dangerous IMO. You have to remember that although it's a different person, in terms of the game it's the same player. You can't just forget everything the previous 'regeneration' did.
Post edited March 14, 2012 by SirPrimalform
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Detlik: I am newbie here but I am AGAINST lynching PenutBrittle, for simple reason. He is seeking replacement. Which doesn't prove anything. He could be Mafia,sure but for all I care he is a townie. So I am for keeping him alive, and lynching the replacement only for actions of the replacement, not because PenutBrittle will quit.
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Rodzaju: And here is the problem.
This is purely hypothetical because we don't have enough input to judge Penut.
But let's assume he has been posting & has raised suspicion.
He requests a replacement.
The replacement acts perfectly normally.
A suspected scum has got away with it.....
Yes, but Penut didn't raise suspicion on himself, so I don't see the point in lynching him (not saying you guys will do it, I just wanted to throw my opinion in the ring, so I wont be suspected of lurking)



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Vitek: And do you agree that it's better to lynch such person?
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SirPrimalform: If you have reason to suspect them, yes. As Rod said, if they get replaced then it's easy to lose track of suspicions. Basically: if you think someone should be lynched and they're in danger of being replaced, it's best to do it before they get replaced.
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Detlik: I am newbie here but I am AGAINST lynching PenutBrittle, for simple reason. He is seeking replacement. Which doesn't prove anything. He could be Mafia,sure but for all I care he is a townie. So I am for keeping him alive, and lynching the replacement only for actions of the replacement, not because PenutBrittle will quit.
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SirPrimalform: I understand where you're coming from, but the bit I bolded is dangerous IMO. You have to remember that although it's a different person, in terms of the game it's the same player. You can't just forget everything the previous 'regeneration' did.
I understand that, but did Penut do anything which would make us think he is a Mafia? I might have missed something, but I think he is either Townie, or well-hidden mafia.
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SirPrimalform: If you have reason to suspect them, yes. As Rod said, if they get replaced then it's easy to lose track of suspicions. Basically: if you think someone should be lynched and they're in danger of being replaced, it's best to do it before they get replaced.
I disagree with this. I would need a hell of a reason to lynch someone who is going to be replaced. Like G 9 reason. Otherwise it just gives free pass to mafia to lynch someone for something that victim can't explain and defend against. Something that can be just misunderstanding. If it is cop result of someone caught lying then of course, it's usually not worth the hassle but otherwise... I don't think so.
This is also the major risk of lurking.
What better way to avoid saying anything incriminating than simply not saying anything at all?
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SirPrimalform:
Are you really such a n00b to double-post? :-/

I saw it, it wasn't edit, just double post. At first it was response to my post and then response to Detlik's was added.
Fuuuuuuuck, double post.

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SirPrimalform:
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Vitek: Are you really such a n00b to double-post? :-/

I saw it, it wasn't edit, just double post. At first it was response to my post and then response to Detlik's was added.
Yup, it's the first time I've ever done it too. My excuse is that my mind is currently occupied with other things!
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SirPrimalform: If you have reason to suspect them, yes. As Rod said, if they get replaced then it's easy to lose track of suspicions. Basically: if you think someone should be lynched and they're in danger of being replaced, it's best to do it before they get replaced.
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Vitek: I disagree with this. I would need a hell of a reason to lynch someone who is going to be replaced. Like G 9 reason. Otherwise it just gives free pass to mafia to lynch someone for something that victim can't explain and defend against. Something that can be just misunderstanding. If it is cop result of someone caught lying then of course, it's usually not worth the hassle but otherwise... I don't think so.
I'm sorta in agreement with the idea, sorta not, and I'll explain.

If they were obviously being suspicious, and then when the votes were piling up they started asking for a replacement, then finish the lynch. This isn't such a case, the most suspicious thing that Penut did was well, not post, and there have been a few people who have been lurking at this point.

It's day 1, Penut hasn't really said anything and the worst he's done is lurking. Any replacement would have to be more active, and a more active person would get us something to work with.

Argh, there have been too many people who have been way too quiet lately, and it's actually bugging me a lot.
As I told you guys, this is my first game ever.

AFTER day 1 started, I joined a game on another site and it's ALREADY over. So paradoxically, this is now both my 1st *AND* 2nd game, depending on how you look at it.

Also, even though the other game was a lot smaller, I find it funny that we were able to start it *and* finish it before day 1 even ended here..... LOL!
First of unvote since Penut posted (Hence that also goes to show my stance in the current debate). I can't agree with lynching someone just for lurking when the person in question have given an explanation and asked for replacement. If it was a intended scum tactic I would call it a bastard move (Coming close to exploiting it) - hard to prove though.

And yea, that is kinda funny :) We have had a few short ones here on GOG.
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Damnation: The "Ask me about twiddling mustache mode" votecount
I would be very interested to hear more about twiddling mustache mode. In particular seeing as your avatar has no mustache. Boo!

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Rodzaju: Personally, I would rather you be lynched than replaced, for continuity reasons, but right now I can't reccomend either....

;-}
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Vitek: Unvote, vote Rodzaju.

You'd rather waste lynch on someone who could be replaced than use it on scum?
Keen eye on Mr. Vitek here. That's a pretty odd statement, Rod.

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Rodzaju: If he was someone I thought worth lynching, as in someone I suspect is scum, YES, I would rather they be lynched.
If they are replaced, we have to give the replacement time to get into the game & thus risk letting a suspected scum off the hook.

Note that I did say that, at the moment I am not in favour of lynching pazzer.
Then why bring it up at all? *twiddles mustache*

It's not much, but it rubs me the wrong way, so unvote, vote Rod.
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xzyem: I would be very interested to hear more about twiddling mustache mode. In particular seeing as your avatar has no mustache. Boo!
Actually begins to make me wonder if there is some secret related to the mustache theme. I am a bit doubtful about it though - seems too silly for a secret message.
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xzyem: Then why bring it up at all? *twiddles mustache*

It's not much, but it rubs me the wrong way, so unvote, vote Rod.
I'm becoming a little suspicious of him too, but no quite enough to do a back to back vote.

Sigh. It just feels like we aren't getting anywhere...