pazzer: Busy with work so not able to spend as much time on this as i'd like. Bit behind so sorry in advance if some things have already been covered.

pazzer: Not sure how you missed it as I quoted it but was refering to p151.

Why the change of mind about being in rvs between posts 151 and 169?

I don't know if there is supposed to be a Jester in this game or not... so...

However, consider this:

Damuna claims town and volunteers to be a "sacrifice" lynch since we're not going anywhere,

Damuna knows that town does not stand to benefit from a town lynch, even though it gets the game moving, better to take a 25% or whatever chance to actually lynch a mafia than to take a 0%

Therefore, town will be HIGHLY unlikely to lynch on this basis.

However, in the meantime, town is so focused on Damuna's death wish that it almost becomes taken for granted that Damuna made a real claim.

So we have 3 options for Damuna:

1. Damuna is town, and wants to die for no apparent reason other than moving the game forward

2. Damuna is Jester (no clue)

or

3. Damuna is playing a *sleight of hand* trick. "Lookie here, I'm town-claiming, now lookie-there at this craaaaaaaaaaaaazy idea I have about killing myself!"

Everyone looks at the thought of killing a townie, rejects it, then we just take it for granted that Damuna is town.

I will defer to the better judgement of other players, however, IMO, #3 seems more likely than #1.

Therefore, my vote stays with Damuna for now. Let's call him/her out on this bluff!

stoicsentry: My bad for making you do so much work Damnation...lol

Damnation: If you find any mistakes, please forward them to me

NotFrenchYet: Um... If Damuna has four votes shouldn't she be closest to lynch..?

PenutBrittle: -snip-

Damuna: -snip-

TwilightBard: The problem is, you're doing the same to me as you claim I'm doing to you, without having my words to work with. I unvoted Damuna during RVS because my reason for voting was rendered invalid. I didn't put another vote down because I didn't have a moment to come up with a reason to do so.

And no, I wouldn't call the votes you got a bandwagon, I put down a vote for pressure. I got what I think are interesting results.

TwilightBard: I'm not sure what to make of it, except I disagree with it strongly. I don't like the idea of a power role being outted, but I like the idea of a townie being sacrificed even less. Instead of trying, we're just allowing the Mafia to get free kills.

unvote Penut I'm going to sleep on this and try to come up with something later, right now my mind is fairly blank.

Damuna:

Red_Baron: Woa that was an unexpected result of that vote :O

I definitely don't agree with that sentiment of Damuna's. Lynching a town just to get over day one?? That will just mean lynching a town and granting the mafia a free nightkill. Don't see how thats better than at least trying to get the right one on day one, even if other games have so far failed.

Also unvote - As I dislike having a vote on Damuna when stoicsentry seems to be going in hard to follow that lynching.

stoicsentry: I agree with you that it's a silly move, which is precisely why I suspect it's a trick.

Do you disagree?

Damuna: I find this period distinctly tedious. We all know that we're going to lynch the wrong person today, and I don't think we can risk our power roles over stupid guesses. Frankly, I'd suggest we ask a vanilla town member to volunteer themselves.

Random vote stage hasn't ended, and won't end until we make it. So, how about we make this count?

Lynch me. /snip

nmillar: My attack on Vitek was more about provoking a reaction than anything really - he made a couple of posts that could be perceived as scummy, so I called him out on it and I got exactly the kind of reaction I would expect from a mafia member whose cage has been rattled. :)