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Re: Personal Trainer vs Gym Buddy

I think the most important rule is to listen to your body and to take everything anyone tells you inside a gym with a grain of salt. There are good personal trainers out there, but the vast majority will just scream at you to do 3 extra reps at terrible form. People in gyms often have personal biases (which is fine, I do sumo deadlifts and can't stand regular ones) and their advice/preferences might not work for you or might be outright stupid. Lifting weights alone without prior experience is a bad idea and you're probably better off with a personal trainer for the first few months. However, nothing compares to having a buddy who's dedicated, but not a meathead.
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Primate: Losing fat, muscle or both?
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anjohl: Fat and muscle always get lost together.
It seems that way. If i lift heavy weights to try and add weight, i always seem to lose weight. If i do lower weights at higher reps, i lose even more than that.

Although at the moment i seem to be gaining weight easier, considering the last time i weighed 186 pounds, and that wasn't very long ago. Maybe the next time i do weights, my metabolism wont be as stupidly high.
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muddream: Re: Personal Trainer vs Gym Buddy I think the most important rule is to listen to your body and to take everything anyone tells you inside a gym with a grain of salt. There are good personal trainers out there, but the vast majority will just scream at you to do 3 extra reps at terrible form. People in gyms often have personal biases (which is fine, I do sumo deadlifts and can't stand regular ones) and their advice/preferences might not work for you or might be outright stupid. Lifting weights alone without prior experience is a bad idea and you're probably better off with a personal trainer for the first few months. However, nothing compares to having a buddy who's dedicated, but not a meathead.
Good post, can agree on most of this. For continued progress over time I believe it's important for each to find his / her own arrangement. Personally I enjoy using some of the principles from Mike Tuchscherer's Reactive Training Systems for adapting intensity (load) and volume (number of sets) according to one's daily shape.

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gameon: It seems that way. If i lift heavy weights to try and add weight, i always seem to lose weight. If i do lower weights at higher reps, i lose even more than that. Although at the moment i seem to be gaining weight easier, considering the last time i weighed 186 pounds, and that wasn't very long ago. Maybe the next time i do weights, my metabolism wont be as stupidly high.
I assume you're paying attention to your food intake?
Post edited October 11, 2012 by Primate
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Primate: I assume you're paying attention to your food intake?
Yeah. More than enough.
Post edited October 11, 2012 by gameon
Bump. I've been pretty bad this semester. I haven't "found" the time to get over to my school's pool and swim some laps, as my projects are rather time consuming. It's pretty bad, and in retrospective, I should have at least kept up with crunches, sit-ups, and the like in my room.

People in general are becoming more shallow, I think, and I certainly won't blame girls for not being interested in me if I'm not willing to force-find the time to work out to "interest" them (if you will) as much as they take the time to look great, too. (What a convoluted, shitty sentence.) But it's still depressing, especially as I've developed friendships with my teachers and I don't want to let them down either by doing sub-par work or making a sub-par effort. :P (College is kinda mean like that.) Maybe I'll try to finish college without ballooning and then make the time to exercise over the summer. Still, that feels like just delaying what NEEDS to happen.

Eh, ramblin'...
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tfishell: People in general are becoming more shallow, I think, and I certainly won't blame girls for not being interested in me if I'm not willing to force-find the time to work out to "interest" them (if you will) as much as they take the time to look great, too.
Shallow or not might depend on who you ask, but I think you have a realistic point.

I find it natural that a person expects a potential partner to be able to "put something on the table" in terms of looks, personality, attitudes, competence, social skills, effort etc. I think it's generally important for two people to match each other sufficiently in some areas in order to achieve and maintain mutual attraction.
There will always be exceptions of course, but I think most women who are physically active and doing good prefer (and deserve?) guys who look after themselves as well.

People are different and the context often has a lot to say, but by improving your physical shape you might also be doing yourself a favour with regards to your academic work. Physical exercise can be very good for your entire body, brain included. It's generally key when it comes to improving the ability to cope and overall quality of life, if you ask me.

Do it! =)
Figured I'd bump in case anyone had a resolution to exercise well this coming year. :)

My general goal is actually to put fitness and health above my grades; I had been getting almost all A's, and a few B's, but will probably end up with B's and C's this (final) semester as a result of my decision (taking out 2 -3 hours a day to do this probably). I'm not somebody that can have it all, but FUCK FUCK FUCK IT, I think this is the right thing to do, even if I let teachers down in the process and cry myself to sleep every night.

Anyway, something I just found: http://walkingtowel.org/images/fatman_before_and_after.jpg

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Primate: ...
Sorry I never responded. Thanks for the input; makes sense. :)
Post edited January 01, 2013 by tfishell
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tfishell: Figured I'd bump in case anyone had a resolution to exercise well this coming year. :)

My general goal is actually to put fitness and health above my grades; I had been getting almost all A's, and a few B's, but will probably end up with B's and C's this (final) semester as a result of my decision (taking out 2 -3 hours a day to do this probably). I'm not somebody that can have it all, but FUCK FUCK FUCK IT, I think this is the right thing to do, even if I let teachers down in the process and cry myself to sleep every night.
What drove you to this? Exercising is good, but 2-3 hours a day and killing your grades? Sounds like too much to me.
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tfishell: Figured I'd bump in case anyone had a resolution to exercise well this coming year. :)

My general goal is actually to put fitness and health above my grades; I had been getting almost all A's, and a few B's, but will probably end up with B's and C's this (final) semester as a result of my decision (taking out 2 -3 hours a day to do this probably). I'm not somebody that can have it all, but FUCK FUCK FUCK IT, I think this is the right thing to do, even if I let teachers down in the process and cry myself to sleep every night.
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ET3D: What drove you to this? Exercising is good, but 2-3 hours a day and killing your grades? Sounds like too much to me.
2 - 3 hours is roughly the total amount of time I figure I'd need each day to exercise: 1) walking 3 miles each day + 2) swimming 1/2 an hour + 3) the time needed to prepare for both of these.
Great! It's good to get started.

Be sure to listen to your body (might sound a bit abstract, but there's a lot to it). Feel free to explore other types of activities as well. The important thing is to find something which works for you, meaning something which you enjoy doing regularly and which gives you the results you want.
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ET3D: What drove you to this? Exercising is good, but 2-3 hours a day and killing your grades? Sounds like too much to me.
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tfishell: 2 - 3 hours is roughly the total amount of time I figure I'd need each day to exercise: 1) walking 3 miles each day + 2) swimming 1/2 an hour + 3) the time needed to prepare for both of these.
Walking? You put on good shoes and go, dude. Prep time should be under 5 minutes, and 3 miles should take 45-60 minutes. Walk one day and swim the next, mix it up for your muscles. It doesn't take much to begin to see a difference. It really doesn't have to be health versus grades, you can work on both!
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tfishell: People in general are becoming more shallow, I think, and I certainly won't blame girls for not being interested in me if I'm not willing to force-find the time to work out to "interest" them (if you will) as much as they take the time to look great, too. (What a convoluted, shitty sentence.) But it's still depressing
(sigh) It's really annoying when i try to work out, but know that i have no confidence/social skills to be able to get a girlfriend.

I'm not afraid of getting into a fight with some wannabe hard man, but when it comes to women, or groups of people, i always get that disapproving look as if to say, i'm not welcome or worthy enough. And that is what crushes my confidence the most.

You don't have the same kind of issues that i have, so at least you have a chance Perhaps 2013 will be a lucky year. I sure hope it will be!
Post edited January 05, 2013 by gameon
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gameon: (sigh) It's really annoying when i try to work out, but know that i have no confidence/social skills to be able to get a girlfriend. *snip*
I am socially awkward, quiet and generally a bit crap. Still have a girlfriend though, because she took the initiative. It works that way as well, you know. Just a game of random chance and blind luck.
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gameon: (sigh) It's really annoying when i try to work out, but know that i have no confidence/social skills to be able to get a girlfriend. *snip*
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AlKim: I am socially awkward, quiet and generally a bit crap. Still have a girlfriend though, because she took the initiative. It works that way as well, you know. Just a game of random chance and blind luck.
It sure feels like that. Well, this is an inspiration thread, and that has kept my spirits up. I just need that bit of luck. Hopefully i will get there in the end. I've waited long enough.
Keep working on it. Find ways to build skills and confidence and try to not give a shit about what everyone else might think (although things such as serious and constructive feedback should be welcome). Everyone has stuff that needs improving.
Post edited January 06, 2013 by Primate