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If you've been checking out the news on gaming sites around the 'Net, you've very possibly heard that GOG has announced some exciting news about our plan for 2012 and beyond.

In particular, there are three main elements that make up our announced path for the next few years: adding newer games to the catalog, focusing on continuing our impressive growth, and bringing exclusive game releases to GOG.com. There are a few common questions we've seen about this, so before we link you to some of these discussions online, we thought we'd create a quick FAQ for you.

Q: Oh no! GOG.com is never going to sell another classic PC game again and my favorite game never made it here!

A: Don't worry, GOG.com will continue to release classic PC games. We are, however, looking to expand the availability window of games on GOG, so we won't focus only on PC classics anymore.

Q: Isn't your name Good Old Games? It seems kind of silly to sell new games on an old gaming website.

A: We've always been about our core values: DRM-free games, flat prices worldwide, and extra goodies included in our releases. So don't think about us as "Good Old Games"; think of us as "GOG.com", and perhaps you can work your way around that objection. ;)

Q: I see your terrible plot! When you guys start selling games with DRM, I will leave the Internets in disgust and never return.

A: Don't worry: we're devoted to those three core values that we mentioned above, and we know that if we ever abandoned them we'd quickly become just another digital distributor. Our goal is to become the best alternative digital distributor out there: the guys who do it differently, who respect their customers, and who can help change what the industry is doing as a result.


If you have any other pressing questions about our future plans, feel free to ask them in the forum and we'll do our best to answer as many as we can. Keep in mind that we can't always answer questions you ask for a variety of reasons, so apologies in advance if you happen to ask one of those kinds of questions.
What about a GoG operated IRC or Jabber server with official channels for each game (or family of games, like in forums)?
That would fill 80% of the bill while staying simple and portable...
Post edited December 30, 2011 by petchema
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Tormentfan: This news doesn't do anything crazy like worry me, but it certainly does concern me.

1. It's been stated there will be no loss of focus on older games.... I don't see how this is possible, with the different working relationships that will have to be set up and the hoops that GOG will have to jump through for this extension to their business to work, then ABSOLUTELY INEVITABLY the focus will be moved from what we accept as "good old" to what will probably be classed as "newer old"... and there are far too many old games missing from GOG's offerings for any emphisis to be lost there.... we ALREADY see proof of a move away from the the "Good Old" mindset with us being persuaded that GOG is just a name, instead of being the acronym we know it to be... The shift has started, that much is obvious.

2. It will all probably still "work", but there a few things that I DO NOT want to see happen.... For certain, the publishers are going to (try to?) persude GOG to take their crap.. all of the bullshit quality games (that we KNOW are bullshit, that being the reason we wouldn't touch them first time round) are now going to be re-pimped to us, so the overall quality of GOG's offerings will certainly be reduced in terms of pure numbers (GOG will HAVE to sell their shit in order to get access to the 'better' releases and the shit FAR OUTWEIGHS the quality) more shit to wade through plus you just KNOW that the 'first' offerings are going to be The Sims, FIFA and EA's sports titles, add in the built in obsolescance of yearly itterations and removal of activation servers (you do know that the big publishers don't consider activation to be DRM, right?) and I'm left with a horrible sinking feeling that we'll get releases with a limited shelf life or online features being unavailable.

3. Also what I don't want to see is a dirth of $20 games.. and I don't see how this won't be a certainty, we already get shafted over new digital releases being the same price, and often DEARER than retail box price, the rampant profit whoring isn't going to suddenly stop just because the game is a year or two old, pubs are not going to give GOG a licence to sell games cheaper here than would be available on other distribution methods which WILL mean a closing of the distance between GOG and other distributors that makes GOG stand out.. not a nice direction to be going head first in, and we are, because the 'closer working releationship' required by GOG and the publishers to get this system going IS going to mean that GOG has to become more like them.. it can't be done any other way, the publishers are still going to be in the position of dictating certain terms to GOG.

One thing that IS a certainty however.. and believe me I'm dreading it, the forums are going to devolve in to a nasty bitching mess... just like EVERY OTHER GAMESITE OUTHERE, it's inevitable. With the change in focus of type of games being bought and played you will see an increase of users.. but they will be users with a different priority for their gaming, there will be a drastic upturn in graphics whores, fanboys and in general, ADD asshats that upto now have ignored the site due to the content not being 'bling' enough for them. The site will no longer have the common denominator that draws us together atm... we can all, to a person pretty much, ignore graphical whimsy in favour of a good game, but where else do you see that with all the shallow, shiney, fastfood games that the ridilin poppers play these days.

5. Upto now, GOG have always smelled like sweet, sweet pie to me... however with the advent of this news I'm now getting a whiff of rotten eggs.

6. I honestly hope I'm wrong, but I'm also pretty sure that the terms the pubs will want enforced are not going to be upto the GOG standard so far.

7. As for 'The Witcher 2'.. that BELONGED here because of the relationship between GOG and CDP, I was GLAD to be able to support CDP with the full price of my monies, that was revolutionary, but I don't want to be whored out to other inferior publishers as a source of profit.

8. EDIT.. concerning the multiple platform points...... NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, honestly peeps the logistics of tracking these companys/rights holder would be an unmitigated nightmare and certainly not worth the miniscule profit they'd get back in return.

9. ...And please, a reply about how innacurate I am about this issue, or about how 'YOU' know it can be made all simple and would work is POINTLESS.. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN and any further discussion of this absurdity is just dragging the thread away from any valid points it may be making... so please, no more emulator talk, it's silly.. seriously, it's silly. ANYWAY, if you don't know how to acquire all the emulated software you'll EVER EVER want by now, then you should have your access to the internet taken away from you :P
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GameRager: 1. If they hire more staff it shouldn't be a problem. And I believe I read that they are going to hire more people as the site expands it's game listings to newer titles.

2. And what is crap exactly? Some games can be considered stinkers to more people than normal, but some games that you dislike others might like & vice versa. But games aren't shit because you dislike them.

Also it will allow people who didn't buy such titles because they disliked the DRM on those games to be able to buy DRM free copies finally.

3. Are you that cheap that you wouldn't pay 20 dollars or so for a newer game even if it came with no DRM and GOG's plethora of extras? If it's the price that upset you go to steam and buy the games.....but then you have to deal with the client. But that's your choice to make.

And no, I don't think if GOG charges more for newer games that they will suddenly charge more for older games or drop the 6/10 dollar price points. Older games will likely still be around 6-10 bucks(possibly including several games in one pack if the single titles aren't worth 6 or 10 bucks alone), and newer games will possibly be around 15-20. Also GOG determines many things about what it releases, otherwise people wouldn't buy from them so much and trust them. I believe, as such, that they won't let the publishers pull a fast one on us when adding newer titles.

4. Now this HAS to be trolling, as if it isn't I dare to think you are serious in such stereotyping of newer game players. Newsflash: Not all newer game players are ADD riddled fanboys or graphics whores. and all newer games aren't crap.....some of us here even play newer games & are quite intellectual & eloquent when speaking.

As for the forums, well every forum has it's bad apples. Since GOG went out of beta several bad apples have come and gone or become good apples. I don't think that just because GOG offers newer games, though, that the forums will suddenly turn into /b/ on 4chan.

5. Then leave if it's so bad for you here.....nothing is keeping you here. You won't likely be missed....especially with that attitude you seem to have against newer games and those who play them.

6. Again they can't tell GOG what to do with their company. If GOG doesn't want to play ball they don't have to. Simple as that.

7. No one is whoring anyone out to anyone else here. GOG(again) is simply running a business. As such they can do with it as they please, though I believe they will remain true to the customer for many years to come. As for inferior publishers...well again that's your POV not everyone elses. What you don't like someone else might...and GOG wants to sell to them a DRM free gaming experience and there are those who might want to buy it from GOG.

8. Stop being so pessimistic. Gog said themselves it might be a possibility in the future.

9. So you tell people to stop having such ideas because you deem them "silly", and then basically tell them to pirate the games instead. How nice of you.
Yeah.. stopped reading at 'trolling'. It's amazing that people like you still exist, the interrnet is years old now and your ilk still have trouble accepting that opinion differ from person to person whether you actually agree or not....... Your lack of openmindedness and acceptance towards the rights of others to hold differing, even absurd opinions pretty much demonstrates that your usage of the word 'intellectual' in regards to yourself is erroneous.
Post edited December 30, 2011 by Tormentfan
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Tormentfan: Yeah.. stopped reading at 'trolling'.
reply with valid counterpoints or gtfo with such piss poor debating skills.
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Tormentfan: Yeah.. stopped reading at 'trolling'.
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GameRager: reply with valid counterpoints or gtfo with such piss poor debating skills.
There was no debate noob.. just you saying that I had no right to any opinion that differed to yours.... again your use of words, this time being 'debate' is wrong.

When you start using words that are relevent to what you say, THEN a debate may happen, actually no it won't.

And if I can lower my bar a little... GTFO?... Suck my dick!

Thank you.
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Tenar: The fact that GOG will start now selling new games is pretty disappointing... yeah it might be DRM and all, but this will turn into yet another Steam or Origin or any of these digital stores... Don't get me wrong, I still love gog... but this decission has def disappointed me so I'm not sure I'll keep buying here if it's just going to be another standard money-making machine site for games like battlefield 3 and company.

So first bad new for 2012..... :(
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GameRager: Where have you been then? The moon? Gog has been about making money since the beginning. Yes, they also try to care for the customer but they also are a business....and businesses try to make money.

Also how would it be like Steam? With steam the games are mostly tied to the client and you cannot control the patching that takes place....among other things. With GOG the games would be DRM free and not tied to a client, and buying them would partially support GOG and it's drm-free customer first ideals.

I sure hope you're being purposefully dense because your statement made no logical sense.
Hello GameRager,

There is an obvious relation with digital videogames stores and steam. I don't care if to use steam or origin you actually need to use their client, they are an online videogame digital stores, same as gog. I used good old games not of the drm, and to be honest, I wouldn't care if I had to pay 20$ or whatever price for the games, I just want a place that specializes in old games. Now that they will be "one more" of the many options that are there to get nowadays games, I don't see any reason to buy here or even to support them.

I know this is a business, but I believe that making a partner site giving "new" games (they don't need to be extremely new ones, but just "newer" than gog was at the beginning aiming at. That would please them money-wise and also us as clients who came here to look for old games that don't run in nowadays computers.

The point is; as a consumer I have the right to my own values, ideas, morals, and opinions. It is not required for you, nor GOG to agree with or try to meet them. I am stating that because of their new plans; I no longer support them.

Respect other people's opinions, you like the new plans, then good I'm glad for you and you'll enjoy it, get games and have fun... and I really don't mean it with sarcasm, I'm def happy that you'll be enjoying it, I don't critisize you, it's your opinion and we're all entitled to it. I don't like the new plans, neither some other gamers in this thread, so respect all of us.

Thanks and enjoy your Holidays. :)
Heres a question....................when are you are you going to quit releasing articles and release another game?
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GameRager: reply with valid counterpoints or gtfo with such piss poor debating skills.
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Tormentfan: There was no debate noob.. just you saying that I had no right to any opinion that differed to yours.... again your use of words, this time being 'debate' is wrong.

When you start using words that are relevent to what you say, THEN a debate may happen, actually no it won't.

And if I can lower my bar a little... GTFO?... Suck my dick!

Thank you.
These kind of words is why we can't have nice discussions here.......I never said you had no right to differing opinion, just that your opinions of new game fans were very stereotypical and condescending/deriding.

I also showed how you could be wrong on several points of your initial post, and your only reply was basically a tl;dr.
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Tenar: Hello GameRager,

1. There is an obvious relation with digital videogames stores and steam. I don't care if to use steam or origin you actually need to use their client, they are an online videogame digital stores, same as gog. I used good old games not of the drm, and to be honest, I wouldn't care if I had to pay 20$ or whatever price for the games, I just want a place that specializes in old games. Now that they will be "one more" of the many options that are there to get nowadays games, I don't see any reason to buy here or even to support them.

2. I know this is a business, but I believe that making a partner site giving "new" games (they don't need to be extremely new ones, but just "newer" than gog was at the beginning aiming at. That would please them money-wise and also us as clients who came here to look for old games that don't run in nowadays computers.

3. The point is; as a consumer I have the right to my own values, ideas, morals, and opinions. It is not required for you, nor GOG to agree with or try to meet them. I am stating that because of their new plans; I no longer support them.

4. Respect other people's opinions, you like the new plans, then good I'm glad for you and you'll enjoy it, get games and have fun... and I really don't mean it with sarcasm, I'm def happy that you'll be enjoying it, I don't critisize you, it's your opinion and we're all entitled to it. I don't like the new plans, neither some other gamers in this thread, so respect all of us.

Thanks and enjoy your Holidays. :)
1. Many DO come to GOG for the DRM free aspect though, and it's the ones who want NEWER DRM free titles that will help GOG stand out in that regard from other game stores. Plus it will also carry the older titles as well, preserving the niche market that made it what it is today. It isn't going to drop them or not release any more older games just because of this.

So basically you won't shop here anymore because they add some newer games along with the old? What a stupid decision to make, imo. I can get if other stores offered lower prices so you bought from them instead, but dropping GOG because of this seems a rash decision to me.

2. That's what they said they're going to do, I believe. They will be adding slightly newer games afaik.....not totally brand new games.

3. And I have the right to state that I think you're making a bad call on this....just my own opinion. Especially as they haven't even told us everything yet.

4. I respect the lot of you but I do have the right to say if I disagree with it. I do hope you'll agree on this much at least.

And you enjoy yours as well.
Post edited December 30, 2011 by GameRager
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ScottWAR: Heres a question....................when are you are you going to quit releasing articles and release another game?
No new releases during crazy holiday sales. Tuesday would be my guess.
Gog, if you get all spiderweb software games on here, you will maximize your potential. These games are right up any of you guys alley. If any of you like baldurs gate series, you will absolutely love some of these games. Geneforge 1-5 and avernum 1-6 are both excellent series. Avadon is my favorite as it reminds me of oldschool baldurs gate. Im not lying when i say that you should look into it. They just had a deal on steam where all 5 geneforge games were released for $25. They normally go for 15 each. I would say this you should jump on to beat steam the competition.

I am only saying this as i cannot stand steam with regards to you guys. I think that you guys have some very cool fans that like the oldschool games and that you generally are easier to use than steam. I cant go on about how tough steam has been to work on my pc compared to gog. Jump on this and you might just buy impulse out before next year!
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GOG.com: If you've been checking out the news on gaming sites around the 'Net, you've very possibly heard that GOG has announced some exciting news about our plan for 2012 and beyond.

In particular, there are three main elements that make up our announced path for the next few years: adding newer games to the catalog, focusing on continuing our impressive growth, and bringing exclusive game releases to GOG.com. There are a few common questions we've seen about this, so before we link you to some of these discussions online, we thought we'd create a quick FAQ for you.

Q: Oh no! GOG.com is never going to sell another classic PC game again and my favorite game never made it here!

A: Don't worry, GOG.com will continue to release classic PC games. We are, however, looking to expand the availability window of games on GOG, so we won't focus only on PC classics anymore.

Q: Isn't your name Good Old Games? It seems kind of silly to sell new games on an old gaming website.

A: We've always been about our core values: DRM-free games, flat prices worldwide, and extra goodies included in our releases. So don't think about us as "Good Old Games"; think of us as "GOG.com", and perhaps you can work your way around that objection. ;)
Are you going to change the name to Good OVERALL Games or GREAT OVERALL Games?
Post edited December 31, 2011 by R3D
Why not include Games of Companies that no longer exists?
Old console games NINTENDO,SEGA, NeoGeo, etc...
Also Foreign titles like Japanese Adventure, RPGs with English subs.

Separate the old categories for the hardcores
Post edited December 31, 2011 by R3D
I don't understand why anyone would mind seeing GoG expand their horizons and branch out into carrying newer titles DRM free as well as old titles. It's just more win for us and them as a business isn't it? Really, where is the loss here? I don't see it.

I'd actually like to see GoG develop a client for user convenience and features similar to Steam minus the DRM. I don't know as that will ever happen but I think it would be cool if it did. I like for example how Steam tracks my time played and automatically keeps games up to date with latest patches.

Anyway, I think GoG is wise to move in this direction and hope they increase revenues as such. This is a great place and I hope they are around for a very long time bringing back the classics as well as providing newer games at good prices and DRM free. I want to see GoG remain viable as a business and prosper so they can continue to provide the games I want to play. If this helps achieve that end which I think it will, it's all good as far as I am concerned.

Why anyone would decide as someone above mentioned that they would walk away from GoG now for doing this is beyond me. They have made clear they intend to continue releasing Good Old Games. Good luck finding these and getting them to run on new systems without GoG is all I can tell you.
Post edited December 31, 2011 by dirtyharry50
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dirtyharry50: I don't understand why anyone would mind seeing GoG expand their horizons and branch out into carrying newer titles DRM free as well as old titles. It's just more win for us and them as a business isn't it? Really, where is the loss here? I don't see it.

I'd actually like to see GoG develop a client for user convenience and features similar to Steam minus the DRM. I don't know as that will ever happen but I think it would be cool if it did. I like for example how Steam tracks my time played and automatically keeps games up to date with latest patches.

Anyway, I think GoG is wise to move in this direction and hope they increase revenues as such. This is a great place and I hope they are around for a very long time bringing back the classics as well as providing newer games at good prices and DRM free. I want to see GoG remain viable as a business and prosper so they can continue to provide the games I want to play. If this helps achieve that end which I think it will, it's all good as far as I am concerned.

Why anyone would decide as someone above mentioned that they would walk away from GoG now for doing this is beyond me. They have made clear they intend to continue releasing Good Old Games. Good luck finding these and getting them to run on new systems without GoG is all I can tell you.
I could only agree with you on that. I believe that a mix of both new and old is a great thing. Gog has their hands tied with competition from steam and other with impulse. I found that they both dont have as good of a deal as gog so that is why i will support them. Some of these newer companies have to bite the bullet and sell their games for a bit less. $10 less is not a big deal when you consider that you sell 10s of thousands more. You make more money tenfold in the longrun.
I will likely support you no matter what, simply because you really did make this old fat guy a very happy man when I was able to play many old classics on my new computers that they wouldn't run on. Thank you for that, please continue to do that, and also I hope you continue to treat your customers well, for that is so refreshing today. Obviously, I'm a big fan.

I am also on Steam. I do NOT like it as well as GoG, and would happily switch here to purchase newer games when you offer them IF, and this is a hugely important IF, I can feel confident in being able to run and enjoy my games without being hooked up to the internet.

I noticed someone above stated that GoG wouldn't require you to be tied to a client. How do you know this?? How will they be able to not tie you to a client in some way AND offer DRM free games? That's my concern. Steam assured me that I could play all my STEAM games on my computer without being hooked up to the internet, but I have very often had trouble doing that.

If GoG also requires you to be tied to a client, how can I be sure I really can play them without being hooked up to the internet.

The fact is when I purchase a game, it should be mine. To play today, tomorrow, next week, or 10 years from now (if I have the equipment to make it run). And at some point I may have to cancel my internet subscription, for a variety of reasons, one of which is the cost each month. And I just fear that I won't be able to play games I purchased years later without an internet hookup in today's environment where you must be tied to a client like at STEAM.

Please reassure me. As I said, I will likely continue to support GoG anyway, but I don't want to start running into the same problems I've had with STEAM several times, and that's playing MY GAMES without being hooked up to the internet. NOT ONCE, not even ONCE, have I had an issue with GoG games in that regard. And I truly, truly, appreciate that.

Will that change when you offer newer games without DRM?????
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My largest annoyance with modern gaming is this:

-I hate client/internet forced use based gaming. I should NEVER be even asked to play a single player game with any internet connection, ever. Not for registering it. Not to play it. Not for ANY reason.

-Never use/apply DRM.

I like to download a game. Put it on my machines and just play it. I do NOT want to have to be stuck registering it. Using an online connection to use it/activate it.