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If you've been checking out the news on gaming sites around the 'Net, you've very possibly heard that GOG has announced some exciting news about our plan for 2012 and beyond.

In particular, there are three main elements that make up our announced path for the next few years: adding newer games to the catalog, focusing on continuing our impressive growth, and bringing exclusive game releases to GOG.com. There are a few common questions we've seen about this, so before we link you to some of these discussions online, we thought we'd create a quick FAQ for you.

Q: Oh no! GOG.com is never going to sell another classic PC game again and my favorite game never made it here!

A: Don't worry, GOG.com will continue to release classic PC games. We are, however, looking to expand the availability window of games on GOG, so we won't focus only on PC classics anymore.

Q: Isn't your name Good Old Games? It seems kind of silly to sell new games on an old gaming website.

A: We've always been about our core values: DRM-free games, flat prices worldwide, and extra goodies included in our releases. So don't think about us as "Good Old Games"; think of us as "GOG.com", and perhaps you can work your way around that objection. ;)

Q: I see your terrible plot! When you guys start selling games with DRM, I will leave the Internets in disgust and never return.

A: Don't worry: we're devoted to those three core values that we mentioned above, and we know that if we ever abandoned them we'd quickly become just another digital distributor. Our goal is to become the best alternative digital distributor out there: the guys who do it differently, who respect their customers, and who can help change what the industry is doing as a result.


If you have any other pressing questions about our future plans, feel free to ask them in the forum and we'll do our best to answer as many as we can. Keep in mind that we can't always answer questions you ask for a variety of reasons, so apologies in advance if you happen to ask one of those kinds of questions.
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SHADOW-XIII: ah, my bad misunderstanding it but it would be pretty awesome to release old non-PC games on PC somehow (build-in emulator like DosBox)
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Fever_Discordia: There might be legal problems with emulation though - for example I think, for PSX emularion you'd need the PSX BIOS ROM and I don't think Sony would OK that
true, plus I am pretty sure Sony & Nintendo will completely ignore such questions because they are selling old games again on their new consoles/phones ... but maybe SEGA consoles and some arcade games could be able to make it ... anyway it's rather just suggestion to the gog team to see if that's possible in future, not likely in my opinion but if ever happens will be uber cool :P
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hedwards: do us all a favor and create a sister site for the new games.
Speak for yourself. I don't want any of that unnecessary trouble. The forum culture could easily be protected by creating "new" and "classic" sub forums.
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Anamon: Besides that? GOG is mainly about the principle of respecting the customer.
This is a key reason many people are here and that it won't matter whether GOG puts up new games or not, they respect their users.

Will the forum possibly need more moderation? Sure, it's possible, but there's been a group of old timers complaining about the current status of the forum for a year or more (not saying they're right or wrong, just that there's already people pining for the way stuff used to be with respect to the forums).

It makes no sense whatsoever for GOG to avoid new releases when most of the userbase wants them, it would draw new customers, it would make GOG more money, it would prove DRM isn't necessary, etc.; just because some whiny 12 year old kids might show up.

People GOG could do to digital video game distribution what Amazon did to digital music distribution. I'm not saying it'll happen, but the potential is there and that would be good for everyone (even the Steam forum trolls).
That's great news! I never thought of GOG as "Good Old Games", although I really like the classics that I haven't been able to play for a long time.

The main reason I order so much from GOG.com is because I don't have Internet access where I live, and pretty much have to miss out on many games released in the past three years. Some examples: Mirror's Edge, Assassin's Creed 2, Mass Effect 2, StarCraft 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Darksiders, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, etc. etc.

Those are games I would buy ASAP if I could find them in a package that does not require Internet access to play.
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hedwards: do us all a favor and create a sister site for the new games.
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Darling_Jimmy: Speak for yourself. I don't want any of that unnecessary trouble. The forum culture could easily be protected by creating "new" and "classic" sub forums.
I have to agree, I want a "sister site" to GOG games like I wanted the whole Netflix/Quikster fiasco. It doesn't make anything simpler, only harder for the user.
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SHADOW-XIII: true, plus I am pretty sure Sony & Nintendo will completely ignore such questions because they are selling old games again on their new consoles/phones ... but maybe SEGA consoles and some arcade games could be able to make it ... anyway it's rather just suggestion to the gog team to see if that's possible in future, not likely in my opinion but if ever happens will be uber cool :P
Well Sega already sell some of their old MegaDrive and Dreamcast titles on Steam and Gamersgate (and maybe other places) so seeing them on GOG isn't too hard to imagine.

I have no idea who owns the rights to stuff like the Amiga OS and other stuff that would be needed to emulate old home computers like that, but it would also be something that I'd love to see some time in the future.
I want to trust you, guys.

Good luck! If you do as you say and what I hope. You'll get more of my money!
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hedwards: do us all a favor and create a sister site for the new games.
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Darling_Jimmy: Speak for yourself. I don't want any of that unnecessary trouble. The forum culture could easily be protected by creating "new" and "classic" sub forums.
Right, because people always post in the correct subforum...
i dont like this too much.im here for the good OLD games and thats it.new games means less old ones.im i gonna wait 10 years to get all old games?? And im all for old sega or nintendo games but old ones.why would i want to see rage here in a year??
Post edited November 18, 2011 by RottenRotz
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Darling_Jimmy: Speak for yourself. I don't want any of that unnecessary trouble. The forum culture could easily be protected by creating "new" and "classic" sub forums.
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orcishgamer: I have to agree, I want a "sister site" to GOG games like I wanted the whole Netflix/Quikster fiasco. It doesn't make anything simpler, only harder for the user.
The issue there was that it was the same account spread across multiple different companies. That doesn't work.

In this case it's hardly impossible to create a unified log in across multiple sites. And in the long run it's easier than risking the integrity of the site. I've personally been around long enough to know that changes of this magnitude are rarely if ever a wise decision.

Perhaps if Mr. Gog wasn't depending so heavily upon the good will of the community it would work, but personally I'm not going to be sticking around in the forum if it goes to hell the way that it's almost certain to if the changes go through.
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orcishgamer: I have to agree, I want a "sister site" to GOG games like I wanted the whole Netflix/Quikster fiasco. It doesn't make anything simpler, only harder for the user.
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hedwards: The issue there was that it was the same account spread across multiple different companies. That doesn't work.

In this case it's hardly impossible to create a unified log in across multiple sites. And in the long run it's easier than risking the integrity of the site. I've personally been around long enough to know that changes of this magnitude are rarely if ever a wise decision.

Perhaps if Mr. Gog wasn't depending so heavily upon the good will of the community it would work, but personally I'm not going to be sticking around in the forum if it goes to hell the way that it's almost certain to if the changes go through.
If you have single sign on login how's that not the same site? You think people won't end up at both sites trolling? What if there's a promotion at one site? If we have the same account at both everyone will hear about it, via email or whatever. Without the two sites being so integrated that they're practically the same site it will be a pain in the ass. Do I get two game shelves? Do games move game shelves as they age? These questions are already bordering on the "wtf good is this two sites idea" category?

There's already people who won't go anywhere but Steam, so I doubt we have to worry about them "No Steam release, no sale, fuck you GOG!" I can already hear it now.

The forum might pick up some trolling is a poor reason not to make GOG, on the whole, a ton better. I like the forums, I like the people here, but I think GOG is making the overall best decision for its current users and for its future.
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hedwards: Perhaps if Mr. Gog wasn't depending so heavily upon the good will of the community it would work, but personally I'm not going to be sticking around in the forum if it goes to hell the way that it's almost certain to if the changes go through.
I think the GOG staff is aware the strength of their business is in the support of the community. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and I'm not going to fault them for something they haven't done wrong yet.
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hedwards: The issue there was that it was the same account spread across multiple different companies. That doesn't work.

In this case it's hardly impossible to create a unified log in across multiple sites. And in the long run it's easier than risking the integrity of the site. I've personally been around long enough to know that changes of this magnitude are rarely if ever a wise decision.

Perhaps if Mr. Gog wasn't depending so heavily upon the good will of the community it would work, but personally I'm not going to be sticking around in the forum if it goes to hell the way that it's almost certain to if the changes go through.
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orcishgamer: If you have single sign on login how's that not the same site? You think people won't end up at both sites trolling? What if there's a promotion at one site? If we have the same account at both everyone will hear about it, via email or whatever. Without the two sites being so integrated that they're practically the same site it will be a pain in the ass. Do I get two game shelves? Do games move game shelves as they age? These questions are already bordering on the "wtf good is this two sites idea" category?

There's already people who won't go anywhere but Steam, so I doubt we have to worry about them "No Steam release, no sale, fuck you GOG!" I can already hear it now.

The forum might pick up some trolling is a poor reason not to make GOG, on the whole, a ton better. I like the forums, I like the people here, but I think GOG is making the overall best decision for its current users and for its future.
You're being obtuse. The issue isn't trolling, the issue is that you'd have the current culture completely buried by people with no interest or respect for classic gaming or the current forum culture.

Having a unified log in does not mean that it's the same site. By your logic all those various sites over the years that took MS Passport log ins or currently use Facebook are all the same, despite the widely varied people that go to them.

By having a different set of fora and a different website you can at least ensure that there's some divide between the sites rather than everybody cramming their posts into the same crowded forum.

In the long run, I hope I'm not wrong, but let's be honest, this sort of move pretty much never works and there's little to no reason to believe that this time is going to be any difference. They've got something good here and they're just going to piss it away for little to no advantage.

At the end of the day anybody who can't cope with the added "complexity" of the sister site situation is probably not going to cope well when one of the games isn't compatible with their particular hardware.
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hedwards: Perhaps if Mr. Gog wasn't depending so heavily upon the good will of the community it would work, but personally I'm not going to be sticking around in the forum if it goes to hell the way that it's almost certain to if the changes go through.
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Darling_Jimmy: I think the GOG staff is aware the strength of their business is in the support of the community. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and I'm not going to fault them for something they haven't done wrong yet.
If they're seriously contemplating this move, then they definitely haven't thought it through. Forum chemistry is hard to get and even harder to maintain. A forum without 24 hour moderation tends not to exist for very long without becoming a cesspool.

Attracting the size of customer base they're trying to attract and going for mainstream current releases isn't likely to encourage the current chemistry to continue into the future.
Post edited November 18, 2011 by hedwards
In my brief reading of some posts, I am genuinely disappointed to see that I could infact label people 'traditionalist' about GOG.

Despite any number of old or new games, Trolls exist and will have come to the forum, to disbelieve this is naive. The community is not going to take a hit to this unless you're obscenely incapable of dealing with basic internet phenomena.

I like the community on this website, in general people are quite nice, open and creative. Garnering new members from newer games is unlikely to demolish this community, because if a whiny pre-teen or angst ridden teen joins and tries to pull their immature hijinks, it is probable that they'll not get the response they seek and either go elsewhere or learn how to interact with the community. Worse case scenario is that you report someone's inappropriate behaviour and they're dealt with by the moderators.

Now that I'd added my two cents in, I'll end with this note: Games new or old, classic or no, if it is on GOG.com and it is a game I want, I will buy it. Because I like with GOG stand for and I want to support it.

Carry on ladies and gentlemen.
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While I don't object to the sale of newer games, I am inclined to take some issue about the claim that the core values are being 'DRM-free and with goodies' and downplaying the focus on older titles. While a DRM-free policy is thoroughly commendable thing (especially with the ridiculous levels some publishers have been pushing DRM in the last few years) I do think that this is underplaying what I consider to be the more important side of GOG's work.

Platform/OS compatibility is a massive problem for videogames as a medium, far more so any other medium. Most libraries will usually stock books written over a hundred years ago and it's probably quicker to list the films made since the advent of sound that are not available in a format that can be watched today. With games though, it can take a lot of effort to get games from as little as 15 years ago to run on PCs, and it may not even be possible to get them stable at all on some machines, assuming you can even find copies of these older games. In effect, this makes it very difficult for modern gamers to access games from more than a couple of generations prior to the current one. Not only is this a great disservice to gamers, but it can potentially have negative consequences on game development as well since it restricts the range of games that a designer can draw influence from.
The main reason I first joined this sight, way back in the early days, was because it was first time I'd seen that someone was actually trying to do something about this problem (and it is a problem). That the games were DRM-free and had extras was a nice bonus, but the main reason I've supported it was because it makes older games available to a modern audience. As someone who grew-up in a mac-only household until my late teens, I've personally benefited a lot from finally being able to play games I'd missed-out on, as would anyone else who was not able to play these games back when they were out.


Now, as I said earlier, I have no problem with GOG.com stocking newer games as well and lord knows any step against the increasingly insane DRM-policies infecting the industry (which includes Steam, however many nice utilities it adds) is a good one in my book, but the value of making old titles functional on a modern OS really shouldn't be understated. While I very much doubt GOG would stop doing this, I would hate to see it get relegated to a lower priority.



Apologies if I'm just bringing-up something that's already been said and done with, but this thread is so long now I don't really have time to read through it all at the moment.