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Posted November 18, 2011
If you've been checking out the news on gaming sites around the 'Net, you've very possibly heard that GOG has announced some exciting news about our plan for 2012 and beyond.

In particular, there are three main elements that make up our announced path for the next few years: adding newer games to the catalog, focusing on continuing our impressive growth, and bringing exclusive game releases to GOG.com. There are a few common questions we've seen about this, so before we link you to some of these discussions online, we thought we'd create a quick FAQ for you.

Q: Oh no! GOG.com is never going to sell another classic PC game again and my favorite game never made it here!

A: Don't worry, GOG.com will continue to release classic PC games. We are, however, looking to expand the availability window of games on GOG, so we won't focus only on PC classics anymore.

Q: Isn't your name Good Old Games? It seems kind of silly to sell new games on an old gaming website.

A: We've always been about our core values: DRM-free games, flat prices worldwide, and extra goodies included in our releases. So don't think about us as "Good Old Games"; think of us as "GOG.com", and perhaps you can work your way around that objection. ;)

Q: I see your terrible plot! When you guys start selling games with DRM, I will leave the Internets in disgust and never return.

A: Don't worry: we're devoted to those three core values that we mentioned above, and we know that if we ever abandoned them we'd quickly become just another digital distributor. Our goal is to become the best alternative digital distributor out there: the guys who do it differently, who respect their customers, and who can help change what the industry is doing as a result.


If you have any other pressing questions about our future plans, feel free to ask them in the forum and we'll do our best to answer as many as we can. Keep in mind that we can't always answer questions you ask for a variety of reasons, so apologies in advance if you happen to ask one of those kinds of questions.
Posted November 18, 2011
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Fever_Discordia: Also if GOG steps out of it's niché and takes to much marrket share it might make the big boys launch a hostile takeover!
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kodeen: Is GOG publicly traded?
I was going to ask this but then I figured everyone has a price anyway...
Posted November 18, 2011
This seems like good news to me. Hopefully I can get some reasonably priced versions of modern games without the DRM that will make my discs uninstallable at some point in the future.
Posted November 18, 2011
By all means, do this. I'll gladly buy newer titles that have had the DRM stripped out of them!
Posted November 18, 2011
i don't like this news for some reason

1)there are still many and many old games to add that are pre-2006/7(for not talk of the ones that are 2007-2009)

2)there are games that are not compatible with windows 7(few,i guess),that lack of expansion(see EA games),that doesn't work(Arx Fatalix),that miss some languages(french,german etc.) and this list of issue is uncomplete

3)Having new games could mean that the forum could(WILL) be a TROLLFEST(and it will,trust me)
it will became like 4chan /v/.

I hope you have think at this scenario that is really probable

Anyway,if you want to have newer games and also indie,at least i strongly suggest to have them in a separate website

i came here for old games that i've played in the past and want to have them legally,for new games i use steam and i don't consider that a drm instead is the opposite especially when i have to backup and also i like achievements

that's all,folks

sorry if i repost this but it seems no one have seen this,especially the point 3 that is really important for what i think
Posted November 18, 2011
I hardly ever post, just read and lurk a lot, but man I really like this place the way it is. I hope you guys don't get bought out and turn into direct2drive or steam. :(

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I wanted to add I love this site. I tell my friends and forumgoers all the time about it. I check in once a week at least just to see what deals are up or what's going on. It takes me back a lot of times when I see the games on sale on the main page. Good Old Games! GOG.COM Best site ever.

I don't mind you branching out and selling newer games, but don't ever change your retro vibe. I think it's the best thing you have going. I always thought you would continue on that track and just be a few years behind whatever the current gaming trends were, I mean that's the niche that needed to be filled. If you want to go completely current, then that's okay I guess, but please don't abandon your roots. :(
Post edited November 18, 2011 by kabhal
Posted November 18, 2011
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jorlin: Yes ,I can see one niche where Gog might be able to compete using new games and still retain the fuzzy feeling...innovative indie games. If they attract those games,, they will need to loose the paradigma Strictly Windows¨ or they are going to loose on that from the Humble Indie Bundle and similar initiatives. Another thing that would be a good thing is to put quality over quantity. Having a complete series is tempting , but lowering your standards in order to do so...It´ s a fine balance.
Agreed about the indie games, although even then you're going to have to compete with Steam and the Humble Indie Bundles (which now appear to be a regular thing instead of a one-off event).

Quality is going to be tricky. Not every new game is going to get the rave reviews that The Witcher or Skyrim does. There's a lot of complete crap on the other services, both from major publishers and from smaller developers who whip out cheap garbage for a quick buck, and with newer titles GOG won't have the advantage of hindsight to filter out the bad from the good.

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Roman5: -Fair and Low prices, if dumbass publishers like Ubisoft or Activision think we are going to pay 30 Dollars for games that are 3 years old - they are dead wrong
The problem there is that the "dumbass publishers" are usually the ones that control the pricing. Look at Steam. Ever notice how some companies (like Rockstar or Sega) turn up in the sales much more often than others (like pre-Origin EA or Popcap)? If GOG is going to begin adding newer titles, then they're going to have to price in line with the other distributors and we probably WILL see overpriced titles. Maybe not as bad as $40 Call of Duty three years after release, but you never know...

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wvpr: I think the way GOG could hurt itself is if the remade site comes across as a bargain bin of recent releases rather than a collection of better games from the past. Without losing its current library, it stops being a place to look for golden oldies, becoming a place full of discards and too few of the new games people are looking for. As long as they can avoid presenting that appearance, things should be okay.

I get the unfocused feeling at DotEmu. Are they a place for old PC games or arcade ports? Neither has enough of a selection.

There are also compatibility issues with games released prior to 64-bit Windows Vista and 7, and prior to the last couple generations of video cards, that can't be solved with Dosbox. If you can get some poorly supported games working properly, that will help set you apart.
Agreed on all points. And thanks for reminding me DotEmu exists. ;)

Very good point with the compatibility issues. I can think of a handful of titles on Steam like Max Payne or the remade Secret of Monkey Island that I had a hell of a time trying to get to run on my Windows 7 machine. If GOG could ensure those headaches won't happen and market to that fact, that alone might give them a leg up.

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AstralWanderer: All those services impose DRM on their users that pretty much guarantees they'll lose access to their purchases someday (see Shamus Young's Authorization Servers article on the reasons why). I have never purchased and will never purchase from such stores.

So if GOG provide even a fraction of the above services' catalogues DRM-free, they'll be entering an empty market as far as I'm concerned - there are doubtless many others here who feel the same way.
I get the sentiment here, but I'm honestly not sure how many of the titles on Steam I'd care about if I lose access to. Most of the time, I buy games on sale, and when you're spending $5 or less on a title to play now, the possibility of future incompatibility isn't quite so important.

Beyond that, I really and honestly do believe that if anyone would follow through on removing DRM from games if a shutdown ever did occur, it'd be Valve. I also don't think that Valve and Steam are in any danger of going under for a very, very long time.
Posted November 18, 2011
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SHADOW-XIII: You say, "not PC only titles anymore", but you mean bringing non-PC games to PC or non-PC games to non-PC hardware?
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TheEnigmaticT: We didn't say "Not PC-only titles" we said, "Not only PC classics". By which I mean "not only games that are 4+ years old."
ah, my bad misunderstanding it but it would be pretty awesome to release old non-PC games on PC somehow (build-in emulator like DosBox)
Posted November 18, 2011
As long as GOG continues giving the great service they've provided all along, I don't really care if the games are new or old...
Posted November 18, 2011
Great news! Keep true to your core values - no DRM, same price and I'll gladly swap steam for GOG.com (Good Only Games.com? ;)
Posted November 18, 2011
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Fever_Discordia: Would EA been as happy to sign up to a direct competitor to Origin as they were to sign up to a niché distrubuter that's going to concentrate on its back catalog?
I'd like to have this addressed as well. Why would EA keep supplying you with classic games when you've just become a direct competitor to them? I think you've just shot yourself in the foot when it comes to the supply of old, classic games; that which made you guys what you are.
Posted November 18, 2011
I've said it before. Do not want. If you want to do it great, but do us all a favor and create a sister site for the new games.

The site has a good culture to it and I for one don't want to see it become like any of the other game fora.
Posted November 18, 2011
Could anyone confirm about the pricing of newer titles? In polish pdf it was said they're going to be priced at about $14 and $17.
Also, considering coming of the titles, are you going to change the name? Or maybe host a contest for the appropriate name that would be extended from "GOG"?
What about indie titles? Any chance for new games like these here?
Posted November 18, 2011
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TheEnigmaticT: We didn't say "Not PC-only titles" we said, "Not only PC classics". By which I mean "not only games that are 4+ years old."
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SHADOW-XIII: ah, my bad misunderstanding it but it would be pretty awesome to release old non-PC games on PC somehow (build-in emulator like DosBox)
There might be legal problems with emulation though - for example I think, for PSX emularion you'd need the PSX BIOS ROM and I don't think Sony would OK that
Posted November 18, 2011
It doesn't seem to make much sense to me to worry about the number of releases per week, or even demanding that GOG promise to keep up or even increase their schedule. GOG has been able to (mostly) keep up 2 releases per week thanks to current circumstances. But now that already quite many games are here, it will become less and less frequent for any more big publishers to arrive. I would expect the rate of releases to have started to drop eventually anyway, and there wouldn't be much to do about it. Maybe this was part of the reason for the decision to add newer games.

And on the topic of "new", many of you might be overestimating how much this really changes things. In GOG terms a game is considered old if it is 3+ years old. This is still pretty new for anyone who isn't keeping up with all the newest releases all the time. I haven't bothered to keep up-to-date for a long time, and some games that would already have been eligible for GOG unter the old rules still feel like they were just released to me. I am also pretty sure the site isn't going to be swamped with all 500 military shooters that are released every month, but that they will keep a focus on selected, better, special and underrated games, rather than the hyped titles every teenager has on pre-order.

The only concern I share to some degree is that of focus. Everything here has formed around the theme of classic gaming, from the way releases work and are announced, to the community that has formed around it. You're sure to not be surrounded by people who would never dream of playing a game more than a year old because of the "bad graphics". GOG is not just a melting pot, people are here for a reason and it shows. It's going to be hard and take considerable changes to how the site works in order to not lose that.

Besides that? GOG is mainly about the principle of respecting the customer. The no-DRM policy means that potentially, people will be able to actually purchase a lot of games that previously could only be technically rented. Think of the games! They deserve it. And I will finally be able to play some of them without hating myself for feeding Babylon.

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Kakihara: I'd like to have this addressed as well. Why would EA keep supplying you with classic games when you've just become a direct competitor to them? I think you've just shot yourself in the foot when it comes to the supply of old, classic games; that which made you guys what you are.
I don't think they're a direct competitor unless they're offering the same games, and EA made it pretty clear that they don't want anybody else selling their new games anymore. Other than that, they already were competing with Origin since EA could just as well have decided to sell their old games themselves as well. They didn't, and partnered with GOG. Why would they pull back now?
Post edited November 18, 2011 by Anamon
Posted November 18, 2011
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Fever_Discordia: Would EA been as happy to sign up to a direct competitor to Origin as they were to sign up to a niché distrubuter that's going to concentrate on its back catalog?
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Kakihara: I'd like to have this addressed as well. Why would EA keep supplying you with classic games when you've just become a direct competitor to them? I think you've just shot yourself in the foot when it comes to the supply of old, classic games; that which made you guys what you are.
agreed,this is a dangerous idea

i don't like the prospective of NEVER have certain games AT ALL
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