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The biggest announcement in GOG.com's history is a fact! Electronic Arts grants access to its deep back catalogue of classic franchises via yours truly GOG.com!

In a ground-breaking, earthshaking, and jaw-dropping deal we've managed to sign with EA and will be releasing more than 25 legendary classics from the globally renowned publisher. With today’s announcement three widely known and much awaited brands get the revival treatment from GOG.com: Wing Commander: Privateer, Dungeon Keeper and Ultima Underworld 1+2.

We will be adding more than 25 titles from EA over the next few months, so the games will be unveiled gradually, but we can already reveal that the next upcoming titles from this huge deal are: Crusader: No remorse, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Magic Carpet.

While the agreement between Electronic Arts and GOG.com brings back many acclaimed and well known franchises, it doesn’t include the much anticipated System Shock or Syndicate series at this time. After releasing the first six Electronic Arts classics, we will take a break from the concentrated awesome until later in the summer.
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keeveek: So does Ubisoft. Do you fear of ubisoft on GOG, poor fella?
Who is talking about fear ? - poor fella !

I am actually used to handle consumer rights cases (and I am actually on a problem right now regarding Samsung Mobile phones).

In my experience one always needs to read "the fine print" because otherwise then suddenly the rights you thought you had might else be gone and you are at the mercy of others.
And F.Y.I. , my opinions/attitudes shown here does NOT make me a "poor fella"....
Seriously all this boils down too is old men loving the old freedom we had until DRM started to go south and most of us don't like it because we grow up without it and I for one hate change especially when I lose some form of freedom.

I am dying to get Wing Commander but will hold of until I have heard something from GoG.com officially saying this EULA is garbage...
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DeadlyRamon: Regardless of the EULA it applies to software that's less than 15 years old, I trust that GoG's optimized versions of the Ultimas and the Privateers and the Crusaders and so on won't require constant internet connections to play nor limited activations nor any other such nonsense that some doomsday prophets insist will be the case because EA has such a policy on newly developed and other recent games.
I never claimed that the EA games sold here would "require constant internet connections to play" and neither am I a "doomsday prophet" in this connection.
I just don't like to be forced to sign up to give EA the right to have me at their mercy with respect to software bought here.
As far as I am concerned then EA showed their true face the day they decided that "Command & Conquer 4 should be the first game in the series to implement a form of DRM that requires constant Internet access" .
I do not trust EA , and if EA meant well they ought to take time to adapt their EULA to the site (GOG.com) that is selling their software. (but apparantly that would be too much to ask for in the eyes of the likes of those such as yourself!!!)
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FiatLux: . (but apparantly that would be too much to ask for in the eyes of the likes of those such as yourself!!!)
I'd just rather play a classic game that once again is available and that finally runs on my modern system than waste time reading through a lengthy legal file with a chip on my shoulder. I guess that a game's entertainment factor matters less to some people than all the fine print in the game's manual.
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FiatLux: . (but apparantly that would be too much to ask for in the eyes of the likes of those such as yourself!!!)
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DeadlyRamon: I'd just rather play a classic game that once again is available and that finally runs on my modern system than waste time reading through a lengthy legal file with a chip on my shoulder. I guess that a game's entertainment factor matters less to some people than all the fine print in the game's manual.
And obviously you prefer to "stick your head in the sand" (and play a classic game that once again is available and that finally runs on your modern system) each time a potential problem turns up, since you obviously thinks that "standing up for one self" equals "having a chip on ones shoulder" !!!!
Post edited June 03, 2011 by FiatLux
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FiatLux: I never claimed that the EA games sold here would "require constant internet connections to play" and neither am I a "doomsday prophet" in this connection.
I just don't like to be forced to sign up to give EA the right to have me at their mercy with respect to software bought here.
As far as I am concerned then EA showed their true face the day they decided that "Command & Conquer 4 should be the first game in the series to implement a form of DRM that requires constant Internet access" .
I do not trust EA , and if EA meant well they ought to take time to adapt their EULA to the site (GOG.com) that is selling their software. (but apparantly that would be too much to ask for in the eyes of the likes of those such as yourself!!!)
How would EA know if you broke any of the EULA? The games are all stand-alone installers with no DRM and no internet communication - you could reverse engineer it and change the renderer to ASCII-art for all they know - providing you don't make it available on the internet then no-one is the wiser. EULAs from the era of these games are there to (a) stop you copying or distributing the games, (b) stop you using the assets for commercial gain, and (c) stop you reverse-engineering the engine to use any of it of your own games.
The fact that EA can't be bothered to write a new EA points to sloppiness rather than maliciousness. I stand by what I said earlier - if anyone doesn't like the EULA, then just don't buy it, or buy an older copy on CD or something, and then worry about the EULA on that one instead.
Post edited June 03, 2011 by Irenaeus.
It wouldn't be that much of a hassle if GOG didn't slap the big "YOU MUST ACCEPT EULA TO PLAY" on each new gamecard.

I mean, we already have to accept EULA for all games during installation. Why only EA games got that additional info?
The EULA mostly smells fishy because of point E. I'm not a legal expert but it looks like EA can take any fan-created content and use it however they please, including stealing IP for a commercial game without any sort of compensation.

Now, I actually see EA's possible reasoning behind it. Many fiction writers object to fan fiction because they just might have similar plots in their subsequent books and then the fan in question will accuse them of plagiarism and demand authorship credits, a billion dollars and a mercedes full of cheerleaders. But it's still dumb.

E.g. George Martin has posted a number of anti-fancraft rants, but there's a number of RPG books based on A Song of Ice and Fire on sale. Is posting an account of a game session illegal/disgusting/insulting/offending/morally wrong, as he claims? Is he going to feel offended when my Lord Tehpwnzor McAwesome offs his pet character? If yes, why license an RPG at all? There are people all over the official site making speculations about future plot developments, does he fear a lolsuit from each and every of them who guesses even the vaguest thing correctly?

Also: the moral rights waiver is against the law in Russia. Does that mean I cannot play the game, or that I can play the game but not create mods, or that I can create mods and disregard point E?
Post edited June 03, 2011 by Starmaker
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FiatLux: I never claimed that the EA games sold here would "require constant internet connections to play" and neither am I a "doomsday prophet" in this connection.
I just don't like to be forced to sign up to give EA the right to have me at their mercy with respect to software bought here.
As far as I am concerned then EA showed their true face the day they decided that "Command & Conquer 4 should be the first game in the series to implement a form of DRM that requires constant Internet access" .
I do not trust EA , and if EA meant well they ought to take time to adapt their EULA to the site (GOG.com) that is selling their software. (but apparantly that would be too much to ask for in the eyes of the likes of those such as yourself!!!)
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Irenaeus.: How would EA know if you broke any of the EULA? The games are all stand-alone installers with no DRM and no internet communication - you could reverse engineer it and change the renderer to ASCII-art for all they know - providing you don't make it available on the internet then no-one is the wiser. EULAs from the era of these games are there to (a) stop you copying or distributing the games, (b) stop you using the assets for commercial gain, and (c) stop you reverse-engineering the engine to use any of it of your own games.
My concerns are NOT out of the wish to break anyones EULA.
In fact I wouldn't copy and share games bought at GOG.com to others - I honestly thinks that both GOG.om, and the companies that truely supports GOG.com's DRM free concept, deserves a lot better than that (they deserves our support) , and to the low prices that GOG.com most often charges - especially at their sales - then I think that people do not deserve to play their games if they won't pay their, mostly/generally, low prices !!! .
My concerns are with respect to "customer rights" , be that present, potential or future, and I do not think that the EA EULA presented at GOG.com lives up to the concept of the GOG.com site , and that is, at least, a potential problem.....

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And by the way , even if a file is TOTALLY DRM FREE then it does not mean that the files can't be digitally "watermarked" somehow !!! (But should the files from GOG.com be digitally "watermarked" , so it would be possible to identify who originally downloaded the file from GOG.com, then I wouldn't interpret that as other than fair and not as an infringement of my rights, or the GOG.com concept, as long as I still can install the, one time, downloaded file on whatever hardware I please as I upgrade the "game rig", or change what PC I wish to play the game on - without the file "phoning home"!.)
Post edited June 03, 2011 by FiatLux
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FiatLux: And obviously you prefer to "stick your head in the sand" (and play a classic game that once again is available and that finally runs on your modern system) each time a potential problem turns up, since you obviously thinks that "standing up for one self" equals "having a chip on ones shoulder" !!!!
If crapping your pants every time you find something to be offended by is synonymous with standing up for yourself, then I guess I'll opt for being a meek coward. All this outrage is over nothing. Enjoy the game, ignore the EULA, and put away the tinfoil hat. EA isn't out to abduct you and implant an anal probe for some dastardly experiment.
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FiatLux: And obviously you prefer to "stick your head in the sand" (and play a classic game that once again is available and that finally runs on your modern system) each time a potential problem turns up, since you obviously thinks that "standing up for one self" equals "having a chip on ones shoulder" !!!!
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DeadlyRamon: If crapping your pants every time you find something to be offended by is synonymous with standing up for yourself, then I guess I'll opt for being a meek coward. All this outrage is over nothing. Enjoy the game, ignore the EULA, and put away the tinfoil hat. EA isn't out to abduct you and implant an anal probe for some dastardly experiment.
I don't "crap my pants" (sounds like you do though!) and I am in no way in "a rage" - this is me in a relatively relaxed stage.
With respect to the "tinfoil hat" and the "dastardly EA abductions(?), implants (?) and "anal probing"(?) for some dastardly experiments(?) then you probaly got a little more experience in that department than I have, after all you are the one who lists as living in the USA - NOT I/me .
That whiny posts are so hilarious.

One thing from me - don't like the fact EA games have their own EULA? Don't buy them and shut up.
I'm not the one who sees a conspiracy behind the legal mumbo jumbo in a license agreement that matters far, far less to me than the software to which it's attached. I don't care if the EULA consists of the Communist Manifesto, a transcript of an Obama speech, or Justin Bieber lyrics: I'm not reading it, I'm only interested in the game. I could not care less about the content of the EULA.
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keeveek: That whiny posts are so hilarious.

One thing from me - don't like the fact EA games have their own EULA? Don't buy them and shut up.
Sounds to me like you are dyslexic or something.....
I never just complained over "the fact that EA games have their own EULA" , it were the CONTENT of said EULA that I found were problematic , but if you are dyslexic then you probably will not understand the difference.
Your comments "whiny posts" , "hilarious" & "shut up" I can only interpret as you "flaming" which I think is highly in-appropriate for this thread/forum !!! (but if you keep it up you may get me "on the bandwagon too" !!!)
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keeveek: That whiny posts are so hilarious.

One thing from me - don't like the fact EA games have their own EULA? Don't buy them and shut up.
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FiatLux: Sounds to me like you are dyslexic or something.....
I never just complained over "the fact that EA games have their own EULA" , it were the CONTENT of said EULA that I found were problematic , but if you are dyslexic then you probably will not understand the difference.
Your comments "whiny posts" , "hilarious" & "shut up" I can only interpret as you "flaming" which I think is highly in-appropriate for this thread/forum !!! (but if you keep it up you may get me "on the bandwagon too" !!!)
What is the difference? Because if you don't like the content of the EULA means you don't like that EULA itself.

What still makes - DON'T BUY IT AND SHUT UP ALREADY. :-)