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Posted June 02, 2011
The biggest announcement in GOG.com's history is a fact! Electronic Arts grants access to its deep back catalogue of classic franchises via yours truly GOG.com!

In a ground-breaking, earthshaking, and jaw-dropping deal we've managed to sign with EA and will be releasing more than 25 legendary classics from the globally renowned publisher. With today’s announcement three widely known and much awaited brands get the revival treatment from GOG.com: Wing Commander: Privateer, Dungeon Keeper and Ultima Underworld 1+2.

We will be adding more than 25 titles from EA over the next few months, so the games will be unveiled gradually, but we can already reveal that the next upcoming titles from this huge deal are: Crusader: No remorse, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Magic Carpet.

While the agreement between Electronic Arts and GOG.com brings back many acclaimed and well known franchises, it doesn’t include the much anticipated System Shock or Syndicate series at this time. After releasing the first six Electronic Arts classics, we will take a break from the concentrated awesome until later in the summer.
Posted June 03, 2011
wow You have done it again!
I am pleased each time you expand the business with new partners.Thank you so much!
UUWs was especially impressed me as they were one of my best games when I was high school boy.

by the way that will be awsome if you port Origin's old DOS games like Ultima series too.
Posted June 03, 2011
Ok first of all:

DUNGEON KEEPER W007!

ok second:

HOLY CRAP MAGIC CARPET! AWESOME!

Also, a friend who is VERY into Ultima is _VERY_ happy that this has happened, as it's - well. Such good news for that franchise: EA is not going to be throwing all sorts of legal crap at us to play the game, they're gonna let us buy it without DRM from gog. As I would put it: W007.
Posted June 03, 2011
I don't give a shit about EULAs that I never read a word of anyway and which are for all practical purposes a mere formality. I also never read the fine print on those FBI warnings that precede commercial videos and DVDs. So long as I can install the GoG game without any DRM, then the EULA call call me a sheep lover, a booger eater, or even a Democrat for all I care. It's just legalese for which only the extremely paranoid or those with way too much time on their hands (time that would be best spent gaming instead of assembling tin foil hats) care.

Bring on the Origin classics! Oh, and Sid Meier's paraCiv game, too!
Posted June 03, 2011
B. Access to Software, Online Features And/Or Services. An EA
Account, including the acceptance of EA’s online Terms of Service
(http://terms.ea.com), the installation of EA Download Manager as well as acceptance...
Also that part says you have to have an EA account as well as...

Also if you read the rest of the EA EULA I cant see how it can be sold on Gog.com unless GoG agreed to that EULA. These games are totally opposite of what GoG.com stands for unless they decided to allow a little DRM in here or there.

If they enforce this for GoG.com sounds crazy but I wouldn't put anything past EA doing anything they want. If this isn't taken out of GoG.com games I suggest not buying any EA games on GoG.com because if your D/L has this in it EA can force it on you to be connected online just to play these old Gem's.
Post edited June 03, 2011 by FlyByU
Posted June 03, 2011
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Lone3wolf: There may be something to that, but that'd be kind of untrusting towards Gog, and their Raison d'etre for this site.
I am not untrusting towards GOG.com "per se" (as such) , on the contrary because GOG.com are the ones who in general are going against the general DRM trend here.
EA however is a totally different story. Speak of "draconian DRM schemes" : With respect to EA's latest C&C 4 then, as far as I know, you can't even use the game in single player mode, unless you got a persistent internetconnection (I have not tried it yet but game system requirements says something like "requires internetconnection to play").
So regarding EA then their attitude presented in connection with C&C 4 were the definitive turning point for me with respect to how my attitude towards EA goes..... (thumbs down !!!)

Edit :
"Command & Conquer 4 is the first game in the series to implement a form of DRM that requires constant Internet access"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer_4:_Tiberian_Twilight
Post edited June 03, 2011 by FiatLux
Posted June 03, 2011
Great! Dungeon Keeper and Alpha Centauri!
Posted June 03, 2011
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Lone3wolf: There may be something to that, but that'd be kind of untrusting towards Gog, and their Raison d'etre for this site.
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FiatLux: I am not untrusting towards GOG.com "per se" (as such) , on the contrary because GOG.com are the ones who in general are going against the general DRM trend here.
EA however is a totally different story. Speak of "draconian DRM schemes" : With respect to EA's latest C&C 4 then, as far as I know, you can't even use the game in single player mode, unless you got a persistent internetconnection (I have not tried it yet but game system requirements says something like "requires internetconnection to play").
So regarding EA then their attitude presented in connection with C&C 4 were the definitive turning point for me with respect to how my attitude towards EA goes..... (thumbs down !!!)
So does Ubisoft. Do you fear of ubisoft on GOG, poor fella?
Posted June 03, 2011
Ok, simple question :

Anyone that's bought any number of the three EA games since yesterday :
DID you have to install EADM to download, install or run the game?
Does the game require you to login to EA servers to play?

Yes or no?
Posted June 03, 2011
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FlyByU: ...
so EA is going to have to make a new EULA for GoG.com or No sale here...
Not quite sure what you mean here. EULAs are only a problem if they are realistically enforceable. This is my biggest thing with DRM: short of piracy, it makes the EULA realistically enforceable.

There is no DRM on these games. Without DRM, the EULA could say "EA reserves the right to visit your home and slap you silly with a wet fish" for all the relevance it has.

I repeat, EULAs are only a problem if they are in some way realistically enforceable. That's the biggest difference between PC gaming today, and PC gaming 8 years ago. Steam, for all the positives it brings people, makes the EULA enforceable. Battle.net, for all the positives it brings people, makes the EULA enforceable.

GOG is good because, ultimately, it makes the EULA unenforceable. No DRM = No realistic way of enforcing the EULA.
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Lone3wolf: Ok, simple question :

Anyone that's bought any number of the three EA games since yesterday :
DID you have to install EADM to download, install or run the game?
Does the game require you to login to EA servers to play?

Yes or no?
Just installed 'Wing Commander', with my internet connection 'off'.

Did I have to install EADM? No.
Did it require me to login to EA servers to play? Nope.
Post edited June 03, 2011 by granny
Posted June 03, 2011
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Lone3wolf: Ok, simple question :

Anyone that's bought any number of the three EA games since yesterday :
DID you have to install EADM to download, install or run the game?
Does the game require you to login to EA servers to play?

Yes or no?
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granny: Just installed 'Wing Commander', with my internet connection 'off'.

Did I have to install EADM? No.
Did it require me to login to EA servers to play? Nope.
Cheers, didn't think so, but it's more proof the EULA is a sloppy job, and is just to cover EA's arse over legal shenanigans, and not an enforcement policy for gog.

Had one or the other been needed to get the game running, then people probably would have reason to be concerned over it.

Drop the "EA is EVUL!" larks, and enjoy the damn games, people! Gog will inform us if the situation changes for the worse, but until then, the SKY IS NOT FALLING!!

:P
Posted June 03, 2011
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FlyByU: ...
so EA is going to have to make a new EULA for GoG.com or No sale here...
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granny: Not quite sure what you mean here. EULAs are only a problem if they are realistically enforceable. This is my biggest thing with DRM: short of piracy, it makes the EULA realistically enforceable.

There is no DRM on these games. Without DRM, the EULA could say "EA reserves the right to visit your home and slap you silly with a wet fish" for all the relevance it has.

I repeat, EULAs are only a problem if they are in some way realistically enforceable. That's the biggest difference between PC gaming today, and PC gaming 8 years ago. Steam, for all the positives it brings people, makes the EULA enforceable. Battle.net, for all the positives it brings people, makes the EULA enforceable.

GOG is good because, ultimately, it makes the EULA unenforceable. No DRM = No realistic way of enforcing the EULA.
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Lone3wolf: Ok, simple question :

Anyone that's bought any number of the three EA games since yesterday :
DID you have to install EADM to download, install or run the game?
Does the game require you to login to EA servers to play?

Yes or no?
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granny: Just installed 'Wing Commander', with my internet connection 'off'.

Did I have to install EADM? No.
Did it require me to login to EA servers to play? Nope.
Well they need to make a legal EULA for GoG.com games unless the GoG.com EULA supersedes/overrides the Game Dev/Pub EULA. In that case no problem...
Post edited June 03, 2011 by FlyByU
Posted June 03, 2011
Thank you for Dungeon Keeper. I thought I'd never play it again. Now I only need Little Big Adventure 2 and my life will be complete. :)
Posted June 03, 2011
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granny: Just installed 'Wing Commander', with my internet connection 'off'.

Did I have to install EADM? No.
Did it require me to login to EA servers to play? Nope.
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Lone3wolf: Cheers, didn't think so, but it's more proof the EULA is a sloppy job, and is just to cover EA's arse over legal shenanigans, and not an enforcement policy for gog.

Had one or the other been needed to get the game running, then people probably would have reason to be concerned over it.

Drop the "EA is EVUL!" larks, and enjoy the damn games, people! Gog will inform us if the situation changes for the worse, but until then, the SKY IS NOT FALLING!!

:P
Yes the sky is falling haven't you heard the World ends on Dec 21, 2012 Lone3wolf ;)
Post edited June 03, 2011 by FlyByU
Posted June 03, 2011
I'm almost 40 years old. I remember as an adolescent during the 80s when EA was some avant garde garage outfit who made quirky but compelling Commodore 64 games like Archon, Racing Destruction Set, Mail Order Monsters, and Adventure Construction Set with unusual semi-LP square packaging. Then they grew into this evil bloated corporate entity, absorbing companies like Origin (who made games like Ultima, Wing Commander, and Crusader) and then disposing of them like toilet paper, and causing such grief all around so that the only fashionable public response was to hate anything having to do with EA reflexively.

But damn if it doesn't produce quality software through good and bad!

Regardless of the EULA it applies to software that's less than 15 years old, I trust that GoG's optimized versions of the Ultimas and the Privateers and the Crusaders and so on won't require constant internet connections to play nor limited activations nor any other such nonsense that some doomsday prophets insist will be the case because EA has such a policy on newly developed and other recent games.
Posted June 03, 2011
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FlyByU: Yes the sky is falling haven't you heard the World ends on Dec 21, 2012 Lone3wolf ;)
*facepalm*

WHY ME??! WHYYYYYYY?!!

*sobs in high-dudgeon*
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