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Posted June 02, 2011
The biggest announcement in GOG.com's history is a fact! Electronic Arts grants access to its deep back catalogue of classic franchises via yours truly GOG.com!

In a ground-breaking, earthshaking, and jaw-dropping deal we've managed to sign with EA and will be releasing more than 25 legendary classics from the globally renowned publisher. With today’s announcement three widely known and much awaited brands get the revival treatment from GOG.com: Wing Commander: Privateer, Dungeon Keeper and Ultima Underworld 1+2.

We will be adding more than 25 titles from EA over the next few months, so the games will be unveiled gradually, but we can already reveal that the next upcoming titles from this huge deal are: Crusader: No remorse, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Magic Carpet.

While the agreement between Electronic Arts and GOG.com brings back many acclaimed and well known franchises, it doesn’t include the much anticipated System Shock or Syndicate series at this time. After releasing the first six Electronic Arts classics, we will take a break from the concentrated awesome until later in the summer.
Posted June 03, 2011
Pity about having neither of the System Shock games. I've never played either of them and I'd like to see what all the fuss is about.
Posted June 03, 2011
WOW :() man talk about a jaw dropper never expected to see EA on here at all the King of the worst DRM schemes to-date

This was one of the "I will never see at GoG.com" companies. The other is Microsoft...

Good going GoG
Post edited June 03, 2011 by FlyByU
Posted June 03, 2011
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satellite: This is such great news! Finally, Ultima Underworld 1 and 2 is here! Hurrah! The wait is over. I have such nostalgic and good memories of playing this game. I still have the manuals. Thought I'll never get to play them again, but thank God for Gog!

Stygian Abyss, here I come.
I loved the runes system for magic in that one :P
Never did complete it though, IIRC.
I'm still torn what to buy, as I only have enough PayPal for one until tomorrow....gah1 maight just wait til tomorrow and funds clear!
Posted June 03, 2011
I'm a bit bewildered by the suggestion by some people that clauses in a license which do not appear to be relevant to the game in question would somehow not be legally binding should EA find some sense in which they could be considered applicable.

If a clause should not be applicable, then it really shouldn't be in the license. That's the only 100% guarantee that a clause cannot ever take effect.

After all, would you sign a job contract containing clauses you don't agree with, just because the boss tells you "oh, don't worry about those clauses; that's just some standard wording copied from another contract, but it won't apply to you". (If the answer to that is "yes", you're a fool -- if the clauses don't apply to you, insist that they remove them.)

Sure, you can make a judgement call that you personally don't care about those clauses, but it seems mad to suggest that just because YOU think they sound irrelevant that they have no legal power if a person agrees to be bound by them.

I'm not saying you should be concerned about this EULA (or that you shouldn't). I'm just saying that a habit of believing that clauses in a legal document to which you have agreed will not apply to you, is a very dangerous habit indeed.
Posted June 03, 2011
SMAC - oh goody goody - thank you thank you thank you haven't got that to run reliably under Vista/7.

Will it include SMAX ?

Only games I really need you to get now are System Shock 1 + 2 and Pharoh + the rest of the Caeser III sequels - get going !
Posted June 03, 2011
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FiatLux: One of the first things I noticed on each the new GOG.com EA game pages were the 6 page pdf file : "ACCEPTANCE OF END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT REQUIRED TO PLAY" ( http://items.gog.com/EULA.pdf ).
where it says :
"the installation of EA Download Manager (or superceding download management software) as well as acceptance of the EA Download Manager (or superceding download management software) End User License Agreement, may be required to access the Software, online services and/or features and to download and apply Software updates and patches (if any)."

It might be that this is "just" a "standard EULA" , but I think that the "the installation of EA Download Manager (or superceding download management software) may be required to access the Software, online services and/or features and to download and apply
Software updates and patches (if any)." part for the EULA is very non-GOG.com like.

Normally GOG.com bought games are totally non hassle/hassle free. Ones pays , one downloads , and one installs (+ one gets all the nice extras : UPDATES included, manuals, guides,music, whatever) and on GOG.com's "about page ( http://www.gog.com/en/about ) they write :
"3. You buy it, you keep it.
Don't let your DRMs turn into nightmares (clever, no?). You won't find any intrusive copy protection in our games; we hate draconian DRM schemes just as much as you do, so at GOG.com you don't just buy the game, you actually own it. Once you download a game, you can install it on any PC and re-download it whenever you want, as many times as you need, and you can play it without an internet connection."

So if the new GOG.com EA EULA is to be read literally then it sounds to me that one, potentially, could be getting back to have to accepting the "draconian schemes" for getting updates, installing and playing the game .

But this is just my "2 cent worth of opinion"/interpretation - I guess.....
Well maybe I posted to soon if GoG.com is going to force EA DRM online connection crap on us then it is no longer DRM Free and having to use the EA down-loader is DRM so they need to take that out of the EULA or drop EA because I am not buying any EA games until this crap is resolved to normal GoG.com standards I have not bought anything EA since the boycott several years ago and I still have not nor will I if this crap is coming here to DRM ha ha Free GoG.com

GoG.com need to clarify this crap and then get it removed from the games sold here before I buy any EA games here.

Good catch FiatLux
Posted June 03, 2011
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Lone3wolf: Why would we use an external Download Manager when everything is hosted on Gog's servers?
It's standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass for their mainstream games, not 10+ year old "classics" they barely care about. Sloppy work is sloppy, but we're stuck with it, and everyone's getting in a tizzy over something that's not valid for THIS service.
As I already implied in my first post on the matter then you might be right that "It's standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass" .
And you are also right that "Sloppy work is sloppy" .

But I haven't bought and tried every EA owned game ever made so I would not be able to speak for what the "standard requirements are".

But what I DO SEE is that what we, at this point in time, might see or interpret as just being "standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass" , could at another point in time be "free license" for them to alter conditions as it suits them because they could just alter conditions as they see fit, in accordance to what their EULA says, and then later write "we told you so ! - didn't we?"
So "standard fluff " or not I am just pointing to this "backdoor" in the EA EULA to, with respect to the EA games, freely alter what we have perceived, up until now, to have been the way things work around here.

"standard fluff " or not , if they write it/"tells you so" in advance , it then gives them the rights to act accordingly should they choose to do so!!!
Posted June 03, 2011
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Lone3wolf: Why would we use an external Download Manager when everything is hosted on Gog's servers?
It's standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass for their mainstream games, not 10+ year old "classics" they barely care about. Sloppy work is sloppy, but we're stuck with it, and everyone's getting in a tizzy over something that's not valid for THIS service.
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FiatLux: As I already implied in my first post on the matter then you might be right that "It's standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass" .
And you are also right that "Sloppy work is sloppy" .

But I haven't bought and tried every EA owned game ever made so I would not be able to speak for what the "standard requirements are".

But what I DO SEE is that what we, at this point in time, might see or interpret as just being "standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass" , could at another point in time be "free license" for them to alter conditions as it suits them because they could just alter conditions as they see fit, in accordance to what their EULA says, and then later write "we told you so ! - didn't we?"
So "standard fluff " or not I am just pointing to this "backdoor" in the EA EULA to, with respect to the EA games, freely alter what we have perceived, up until now, to have been the way things work around here.

"standard fluff " or not , if they write it/"tells you so" in advance , it then gives them the rights to act accordingly should they choose to do so!!!
Correct again...

wish I could give you more rep but it wont allow me LOL...
Posted June 03, 2011
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FlyByU: [ Good catch FiatLux
Thanks "FlyByU" !
You do quite nicely yourself , if I may say so ! .
Posted June 03, 2011
People seem to forget EA made the Madden NFL and also the NHL series. Hope GOG can get one or two of the older versions (better than the current ones).
Posted June 03, 2011
I'm sorry, but right now there's not a part of me that can justify getting these.

* Buys 'Dungeon Keeper' and 'Wing Commander' *

Curse my weakness...
Posted June 03, 2011
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Lone3wolf: Why would we use an external Download Manager when everything is hosted on Gog's servers?
It's standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass for their mainstream games, not 10+ year old "classics" they barely care about. Sloppy work is sloppy, but we're stuck with it, and everyone's getting in a tizzy over something that's not valid for THIS service.
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FiatLux: As I already implied in my first post on the matter then you might be right that "It's standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass" .
And you are also right that "Sloppy work is sloppy" .

But I haven't bought and tried every EA owned game ever made so I would not be able to speak for what the "standard requirements are".

But what I DO SEE is that what we, at this point in time, might see or interpret as just being "standard fluff in a standard EULA that basically covers EA's ass" , could at another point in time be "free license" for them to alter conditions as it suits them because they could just alter conditions as they see fit, in accordance to what their EULA says, and then later write "we told you so ! - didn't we?"
So "standard fluff " or not I am just pointing to this "backdoor" in the EA EULA to, with respect to the EA games, freely alter what we have perceived, up until now, to have been the way things work around here.

"standard fluff " or not , if they write it/"tells you so" in advance , it then gives them the rights to act accordingly should they choose to do so!!!
There may be something to that, but that'd be kind of untrusting towards Gog, and their Raison d'etre for this site. I, IMO, don't think Gog would allow that sort of shenanigans, and really, I can't see even EA suddenly getting all pissy over it, especially if their catalog sells reasonably well here.

Which reminds me, need to go buy........Privat....no! Dunge.....NO! ....Privat........Damnit!! >.< eeny....meeny.....miny......HEY MO!
Posted June 03, 2011
Bought all of yesterdays releases.

But... but... there is Alpha Centauri and Crusader on the list to be released! <3 Crusader games...
Posted June 03, 2011
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FlyByU: This was one of the "I will never see at GoG.com" companies. The other is Microsoft...
I may be wrong, but I think there's a chance Microsoft is the next one.

They announced Witcher 2 on Xbox 360 and this always enforces more contacts between parties. There's no PSN version, so Microsoft should be pleased - there's a ground for a deal with GOG.
Posted June 03, 2011
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granny: I'm sorry, but right now there's not a part of me that can justify getting these.

* Buys 'Dungeon Keeper' and 'Wing Commander' *

Curse my weakness...
I agree I want Wing Commander pretty bad but I am not going to get it until I know EA has removed itself from taking over the software and making it rent-ware like it is today screw EA has been my attitude and it has not changed yet GoG.com needs to address this and fix the issue so EA is going to have to make a new EULA for GoG.com or No sale here...
Post edited June 03, 2011 by FlyByU
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