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gameon: It will be great to see how the league table looks after a few more matches.
The most interesting part will probably be the team rosters: missing players, cripples, and the odd star player.
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gameon: It will be great to see how the league table looks after a few more matches.
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WBGhiro: The most interesting part will probably be the team rosters: missing players, cripples, and the odd star player.
So it's more down to the players they have than their playing ability? Or is it a mix of both?

I've only seen videos of bloodbowl, so i have no idea how complex it is.
It's a mix of both.
While certain teams have better chances of winning - Skaven are "better" than Halflings for example - how well the coach knows the game, knows how to use his/her team, and how to pitch this team against the other teams is VERY important.
Each team allows different tactics. Elves will be played quite differently from Khemri. Highelves against Woodelves will be a completely different match than Woodelves agains Orcs, or Orcs against Ogres.

And when playing a league, a little luck when the fans choose the Most Important Player of the match and when making your dice rolls for level ups can also help.
Post edited January 10, 2013 by Piranjade
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gameon: So it's more down to the players they have than their playing ability? Or is it a mix of both?

I've only seen videos of bloodbowl, so i have no idea how complex it is.
It's rather complicated, a very important part of bloodbowl is keeping your key players alive, so that they may level up in an rpg like fashion and gain more skills, and therefore become more effective at the game. Obviously both the opposing coach, and the dice now and then, want to see blood. The less players you have on the pitch, the less likely it is to score or prevent a touchdown.

Now both tacticts and strategy are different for each team. They pretty much all have their own rules if you want to play them optimally. Especially in a private league where due to the limited amount of matches you have to be careful how you spend your money.

As an example if you are playing a woodelf team, you might to pass on some risky scoring opportunities and instead focus on being evasive, keeping your players in one piece when playing against a very strong bashy team.

Another thing to consider is Team Value, basically a score given to your team depending on how many players, and how good they are, plus some other stuff such as fame, cheerleaders etc... Each team in the league started with a 1000 TV. Most team now have higher TV because they scored a lot and some of their players probably gained a level or two. The less lucky teams instead probably lost TV due to having injured or even dead players.

When a match starts the TV of both teams is compared, and the one with a disadvantage gets some inducement money; which can be spent on mercenaries, bribes, wizards, or even starplayers, to make the match somewhat balanced. So in theory every match is somewhat balanced.
Just a little heads up:
The BloodBowl internet leagues cannot be accessed until Monday or Tuesday because of server migration at Cyanide.
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Piranjade: Just a little heads up:
The BloodBowl internet leagues cannot be accessed until Monday or Tuesday because of server migration at Cyanide.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
Here's a potentially stupid question.

How the heck do you do a random internet pickup game with other people? I know it can be done, I've seen videos, but for the life of me I can't figure out how.
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Hawk52: Here's a potentially stupid question.

How the heck do you do a random internet pickup game with other people? I know it can be done, I've seen videos, but for the life of me I can't figure out how.
I havent actually played any - but i think the options you have are to either join one of the cyanide Leagues (3 or 4 them i believe?) and use matchmaking, or directly challenge some random coach.

The official leagues/tournaments can only be joined with new teams I think.

Maybe I should give Nurgle or Norse a shot myself...
Post edited January 11, 2013 by iippo
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Hawk52: How the heck do you do a random internet pickup game with other people? I know it can be done, I've seen videos, but for the life of me I can't figure out how.
Sign up a team on one of the four public leagues (E.g Naggaroth), you might want to inform yourself on which one is the most populated right now, after you've done that click on atchmaking or something like that and a spinning coin should appear. It might take a long time before there's a match available.
Post edited January 11, 2013 by WBGhiro
They seriously couldn't program in an exhibition pickup game system? :(
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Hawk52: They seriously couldn't program in an exhibition pickup game system? :(
Yes. Because: Cyanide.
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Hawk52: They seriously couldn't program in an exhibition pickup game system? :(
Well, you could always just make a team to most populated league, use matchmaking and then delete the team if you didnt like it. I think there is whole bunch of "sleeping teams" in there.

When I just have a bit of time, ill try some league and the matchmaking, but atm my hands are bit full.
With the internet leagues down and LAN not wanting to work I played a match against my husband using hotseat yesterday evening.
I played Ogres for a change. That's no team for me, I was so worried for the Snotlings all the time - I didn't want the titchy ones to get hurt. But you cannot really play BloodBowl that way and despite all my care they got hurt anyway. *sigh*

And I find it majorly annoying that you cannot create your own team rooster in LAN and hotseat without using third party programs. :-(
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Piranjade: With the internet leagues down and LAN not wanting to work I played a match against my husband using hotseat yesterday evening.
I played Ogres for a change. That's no team for me, I was so worried for the Snotlings all the time - I didn't want the titchy ones to get hurt. But you cannot really play BloodBowl that way and despite all my care they got hurt anyway. *sigh*

And I find it majorly annoying that you cannot create your own team rooster in LAN and hotseat without using third party programs. :-(
I remember playing half a match with Ogre against computer and getting totally frustrated with the bonehead nega-skill. Well, that was long ago. In theory Ogre's seem fun team to play with, but ive never given them a proper second try.

I think the snotlings are meant to die. They have twitchy+AV5 (!?), which makes them get hurt even more easily than stunty, so I dont think its possible keep them alive, skilled or not... 20k price isnt too big though, unlike the 140k for Ogres :/

http://naf.talkfantasyfootball.org/lrb6.html
...whose at the bottom of winning ratios? :D
Thanks for the link!
Yeal, Ogres aren't for me. While I have no problem playing recklessly with my Zombies I just cannot do it with Snotlings.

NAF members are mainly tabletop leagues, right? That might influence the table a little, I think.
For example new players might be a bit more inclined to play Orcs and Humans because they get those with the game as opposed to buying new team miniatures when you're already more into the game and more experienced.
Also the length of a league tournament can influence the chances of a team quite a bit. Some teams are better in the first few games but loose footing when most teams have level 3 players.
And then there are fun players like me, who aren't really good at the game but enjoy it nevertheless and play slightly stranger teams. :-D