Posted January 22, 2013
And why again isn't Star Wars an example of "yet another fantasy element in otherwise sci-fi work"?
kalirion: So we come back again to - are all "mind powers" strictly fantasy elements? Niven's Known Space series is considered to be relatively hardish sci-fi, and it has TK and telepathy. You supercharge TK enough, and you basically get reality bending.
Fenixp: Yes, I think we have agreed on the fact that the line between sci-fi and fantasy is thin, thank you for repeating what I have said, fairly nice of you. Doesn't change the fact that without its defining attribute, sci-fi might as well be fantasy, and if this attribute is being ignored, sci-fi as a genre can be dropped altogether as it's completely pointless, or it gets reduced to simply being 'futuristic fantasy', which is most definitely not why I love sci-fi. Now if you don't reply with something more constructive than yet another fantasy element in otherwise sci-fi work, I'll just drop the topic.
It just seems that you almost arbitrarily pick what you consider to be sci-fi and what isn't, what's "based on reality" and what isn't. As I've said before there is a subgenre of sci-fi called "hard sci-fi", but just because a work doesn't fall into that genre, does not mean that its not sci-fi at all. Hard sci-fi is deeply rooted in the science understood at time of writing. Soft sci-fi not so much, and may rely on Star Trek style technobabble or no explanations at all. That doesn't make it fantasy with sci-fi elements.
You say its a thin line, but you seem to have very clear black & white idea of where that line lies.
Post edited January 22, 2013 by kalirion