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teceem: But in this context a third party is involved (Microsoft), and GOG has no contract with them concerning the evolution of their Operating System.
Doesn't matter. It just means that GOG has to do the work to ensure the game works, no matter what changes Microsoft does. If they can't, they give a refund.

Guarantees that involve third parties are nothing new. For example, there are aftermarket printer cartridges and the maker guarantees it works with your printer, and they guarantee it does not void the warranty of your printer. The printer maker is not and need not be involved in such a contract. It just means the maker of the cartridge assumes any liability and if there's a warranty case that is resolved as a fault caused by the cartridge, then the cartridge maker offers a service equivalent to warranty (i.e. replace or fix your printer).

Insurance works just like this too. You can get insurance against damages caused by third parties. It doesn't mean the insurance company has to make a contract with these third parties. It just means they resolve the damage if and when it occurs.
Post edited November 18, 2018 by clarry
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teceem: But in this context a third party is involved (Microsoft), and GOG has no contract with them concerning the evolution of their Operating System.
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clarry: Doesn't matter. It just means that GOG has to do the work to ensure the game works, no matter what changes Microsoft does. If they can't, they give a refund.

Guarantees that involve third parties are nothing new. For example, there are aftermarket printer cartridges and the maker guarantees it works with your printer, and they guarantee it does not void the warranty of your printer. The printer maker is not and need not be involved in such a contract. It just means the maker of the cartridge assumes any liability and if there's a warranty case that is resolved as a fault caused by the cartridge, then the cartridge maker offers a service equivalent to warranty (i.e. replace or fix your printer).

Insurance works just like this too. You can get insurance against damages caused by third parties. It doesn't mean the insurance company has to make a contract with these third parties. It just means they resolve the damage if and when it occurs.
Yeah, except we can't say a microsoft update damaged the software.

That and GOG just might not be able to keep up with the upkeep if things break badly enough.
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clarry: Understandably tech companies that deal in commodity consumer products don't want to take on such a liability, although it might not be as expensive as you might think. (How much can you claim in damages over not being able to play a videogame you got for a few bucks?)

That is, by the way, part of the reason our supermarket shelves are stuffed with cheap plastic shit that breaks and breaks and breaks. Yes, someone's responsible for the warranty, but as long as they can just keep replacing the shit with another cheap shit or say "okay, fine, have your three pennies back", there's very little incentive to produce a quality item that lasts. Taking them to court and claiming damages would almost definitely be far too expensive to be worth it, if the court doesn't laugh you out. A class action suit could work but these take a lot of effort to organize and require a large enough riled up population.. usually people don't get that riled up unless it's an expensive item they're having difficulty with.
Injunction. Sure, no one's going to sue for 5 bucks back, but they can sue for an injunction that would obligate GOG to make it work, or face a bigger fine/payout.
Post edited November 18, 2018 by kohlrak
Bringing the thread back on topic, we'll probably see more Telltale Games titles get removed tomorrow as this was the weekend so no one was working to take more down.

It's a shame GOG never got the reduced prices like all the other platforms got.
The developer minori is bankrupt.
Their game eden* is a masterpiece, and have risk to be removed from GOG.
Buy it as soon as possible.
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kbnrylaec: The developer minori is bankrupt.
Their game eden* is a masterpiece, and have risk to be removed from GOG.
Buy it as soon as possible.
Thanks for the heads up. Wishlisted for now, as $20 is a bit much.
For anyone who missed the announcement: The 7th Guest will be gone by tomorrow.

www.gog.com/forum/general/the_7th_guest_will_be_delisted_from_the_catalog_on_friday_march_1st
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kbnrylaec: The developer minori is bankrupt.
Oha, there goes one of the more known ones. They did really well, considering they got their works adapted as anime for a while.
high rated
One of the game developers of P·O·L·L·E·N, Samuli Jääskeläinen, when asked about updating the game on GOG and cutting the price to match Steam said: "I don't work for Mindfield Games anymore, the company is bankrupt. I don't think anyone is controlling Pollen's store pages anymore sadly." :/

https://twitter.com/Zhamul/status/1142117969855746050

Game hasn't been on sale for 2 years now in any of the stores which matches the period Mindfield Games went bankrupt. I think it's safe to say that at some point the game will be removed from GOG.
Post edited June 22, 2019 by PainOfSalvation
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kbnrylaec: The developer minori is bankrupt.
Their game eden* is a masterpiece, and have risk to be removed from GOG.
Buy it as soon as possible.
I checked the store and it's still exist, I think the IP owner still active and profiting from the game even when the company went belly up. Also it's the truth about Japanese game developers especially VN makers. The competition so cutthroat even when the sales of an IP was good they not going to survive if their next IP is not a big hit. Either you make a good game or making what people wanted. The latter usually worked for R18 VN games. But for vanilla VN it's the former and it's really damn hard.
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kbnrylaec: The developer minori is bankrupt.
Their game eden* is a masterpiece, and have risk to be removed from GOG.
Buy it as soon as possible.
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RedRagan: I checked the store and it's still exist, I think the IP owner still active and profiting from the game even when the company went belly up. Also it's the truth about Japanese game developers especially VN makers. The competition so cutthroat even when the sales of an IP was good they not going to survive if their next IP is not a big hit. Either you make a good game or making what people wanted. The latter usually worked for R18 VN games. But for vanilla VN it's the former and it's really damn hard.
I think you're right, given that eden* ended up going on sale recently -- and they need rights owner permission to put games on sale. That being said, better safe than sorry.
Disney The Jungle Book can be removed [silently] any day, it was removed from Steam about a month ago
https://www.gog.com/game/disney_the_jungle_book

Disney's Hercules can be removed in a few years because of the same reasons: it was developed by Eurocom and in year 2022 a new Hercules is to be released, it is based on 1997 Hercules animated movie.
https://www.gog.com/game/disneys_hercules

Link to movie:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls042344883/
There is a risk that parent company of game publisher Annapurna Interactive might fill for bankruptcy. The following games could be removed temporary, for a long period of time or even forever.

What Remains of Edith Finch
https://www.gog.com/game/what_remains_of_edith_finch

Flower
https://www.gog.com/game/flower

Donut County
https://www.gog.com/game/donut_county

Link to source of information:
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-08-08-annapurna-exploring-bankruptcy-protection

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teceem:
It was also noted in provided link. However there are many cases about "speculation" which then conclude in bad ending and this thread specifically named "Games at risk...". So all I did is informed GOG users of potential loss of games.
Post edited August 11, 2019 by Cadaver747
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/outer-wilds-publisher-says-were-not-going-anywhere-following-bankruptcy-speculation/
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kbnrylaec: The developer minori is bankrupt.
minori's titles won't be going anywhere "any time soon". (Kaitsu is one of Mangagamer's staff)

In fact, after minori announced their cease of production, MG published Trinoline (which is still yet to come to GOG). So... yeah. I wouldn't panic until MG says something about it.
With HD remasters for Commandos 2: Men of Courage and Praetorians coming up (next week during Gamescom?) GoG might have to delist the originals to make way for the shinier HD versions, Beamdoggy-Dog-style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb90nBvuwl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_GZOmcqJLc
Post edited August 18, 2019 by Swedrami