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honk.

ahooga ?

Done!

I repaired two links to "Beginner's Guide" mafiascum.net in OP so if you ever wanted to check it out and couldn't you can now.
I also added link to JEEP's Tells for Finding Mafia page on mafiascum. I had it favourited for a long time and it was around somewhere but wasn't easily accessible anymore.

Funny.

Sad.

Yeah. Be impatient.

That sounds promising....

After reading through older game on Saturday I came across stat I made long ago, I decided to complete it as it was quite obsolete by now and I am posting it here so it can be found more easily.
It's about vote involvement of mafia in lynches.
I am not doing it to prove anything, it's just out of interest.
(If there is 1 mafia remaining in brackets next to mafia lynch, it means 1 OTHER mafia than the one lynched. I did it because it makes more sense as except one opportunity, where mafia was also jester, mafia never voted for itself, so self-votes are out of comission for my stat)

Game 1

Day 1 – nolynch (deliberate – 1st and only) - 7 votes - 2 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 2 - town lynch - 6 votes - 1 made by mafia
Day 3 - mafia lynch - 5 votes - 2 made by 2 mafia (2 mafia remaining)
Day 4 - mafia lynch - 4 votes 0 made by mafia (1 mafia remaining)
Day 5 – majority not reached
Day 6 – game-ending town lynch - 3 votes - 1 made by mafia

Game 2

Day 1 - town lynch - 7 votes - 3 made by mafia (3 mafia total), 1 by Serial killer.
Day 2 - town lynch - 6 votes - 2 made by mafia + 1 by SK
Day 3 - mafia lynch - 5 votes - 1 made by mafia + SK vote (2 mafia remaining)
Day 4 - SK lynch - 4 votes - 1 made by mafia
Day 5 - mafia lynch - 3 votes - 1 made by mafia (1 scum remaining)
Day 6 - game-ending town lynch - 2 votes - 1 made by mafia

Game 3

Day 1 - town lynch - 7 votes - 1 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 2 - town lynch - 6 votes - 1 mady by mafia
Day 3 - mafia lynch - 5 votes - 1 made by mafia (yeah, I am terrible buddy :-)) (2 mafia remained)
Day 4 - game-ending town lynch - 4 votes - 2 made by mafia (it was quicklynch)

Game 4

Day 1 - town lynch - 7 votes - 2 made by mafia (3 total) + 1 by SK
Day 2 - mafia lynch - 5 votes - 1 by mafia, 1 by SK (1 mafia left-other was nightkilled)
Day 3 - town lynch - 5 votes - 0 by mafia, 1 by SK (1 mafia remaining)
Day 4 - town lynch - 3 votes - 1 by mafia
Day 5 - ditto - 3 votes - 1 by mafia
Day 6 - game-ending mafia lynch - 2 votes - none by mafia

Game 5

Day 1 - town lynch - 7 votes - 2 by mafia (3 total)
Day 2 - town lynch - 6 votes - 2 by mafia
Day 3 - mafia lynch - 5 votes - 2 by mafia (one self vote from mafia jester - 2 scum left)
Day 4 - mafia lynch - 4 votes - 0 made by mafia (1 mafia left)
Day 5 - majority not reached
Day 6 - game-ending mafia lynch - 2 votes - 0 by mafia

Game 6 - game where no mafia was present so no analysis here

Game 7

Day 1 - town lynch - 5 votes - 0 by mafia (2 mafia total)
Day 2 - majority not reached
Day 3 - town lynch - 5 votes - 2 by mafia
Day 4 - game-ending town lynch - 4 votes - 2 made by mafia

Game 8

Day 1 - majority not reached
Day 2 - town lynch - 6 votes - 2 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 3 - didn't happen due to game mechanics
Day 4 - town lynch - 5 votes - 3 made by mafia (failed speedlynch :-/)
Day 5 - mafia lynch - 4 votes - 2 made by mafia (2 mafia remaining)
Day 6 - game-ending town lynch - 3 votes - 2 made by mafia (speedlynch)

Game 9

Day 1 - town lynch - 8 votes - 3 made by mafia (4 mafia total - 2 mafia teams)
Day 2 - town lynch - 8 votes - 4 made by mafia
Day 3 - mafia lynch - 6 votes - 3 made by mafia (3 remaining mafia)
Day 4 - town lynch - 5 votes - 1 made by mafia (1 mafia remaining - eventful night :-))
Day 5 - town lynch - 3 votes - 0 made by mafia
Day 6 - game-ending mafia lynch - 2 votes - 0 made by mafia

Game 10

Day 1 - town lynch - 7 votes - 2 by mafia (3 total)
Day 2 - neutral lynch - 6 votes - 2 mafia votes
Day 3 - mafia lynch - 5 votes - 1 mafia votes (2 remaining mafia)
Day 4 - mafia lynch - 5 votes - 0 mafia votes (1 remaining mafia)
Day 5 - game-ending mafia lynch (yeah we are so awesome) - 4 votes - 1 mafia vote

Game 11

Day 1 - majority not reached
Day 2 - town lynch - 7 votes - 2 mafia votes (4 mafia total - 2 teams)
Day 3 - town lynch - 6 votes - 2 mafia votes
Day 4 - town lynch - 4 votes - 3 mafia votes (3 mafia left)
Day 5 - game-ending mafia lynch - 3 votes - 2 coming from mafia (2 mafia left - 1 team)

Game 12

Day 1 - ended with modkill, thanks to certain person :-( (3 mafia total)
Day 2 - mafia lynch - 5 votes - 1 coming from mafia (1 mafia left)
Day 3 - game-ending mafia lynch - 4 votes - 1 made by mafia (self-hammer)

Game 13

Day 1 – town lynch – 7 votes - 3 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 2 – mafia lynch – 6 votes – 1 made by mafia
Day 3 – game-ending mafia lynch – 4 votes – 0 made by mafia

Game 14

Day 1 – majority not reached
Day 2 – town lynch (really?) - 8 votes – 1 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 3 – mafia lynch – 7 votes – 1 made by mafia (2 mafia remaining)
Day 4 – mafia lynch – 6 votes - 1 made by mafia (1 mafia remaining)
Day 5 – town lynch – 5 votes – 1 made by mafia
Day 6 – town lynch – 5 votes – 0 made by mafia
Day 7 – game-ending mafia lynch – 4 votes – 0 made by mafia

Game 15

Day 1 – majority not reached
Day 2 – town lynch (do not dare to question names!) – 6 votes – 3 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 3 – mafia lynch – 6 votes – 0 made by mafia (2 mafia remaining)
Day 4 – mafia lynch – 5 votes – 1 made by mafia (1 mafia remaining)
Day 5 – game-ending mafia lynch – 4 votes – 0 made by mafia

Game 16

Day 1 – town lynch – 7 votes – 1 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 2 – town lynch – 6 votes – 2 made by mafia
Day 3 – game-ending town lynch – 5 votes – 3 made by mafia

Game 17

Day 1 – neutral mod lynch – 7 votes – 2 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 2 .1 – jester lynch – 5 votes – 2 made by mafia
Day 2.2 – town lynch ( 1 mafia co-lynched) – 5 votes – 1 made by mafia
Day 3 – game-ending mafia lynch – 3 votes – 0 made by mafia

Game 18

Day 1 – majority not reached
Day 2 – town lynch – 6 votes – 3 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 3 – game-ending town lynch – 4 votes – 3 made by mafia (worst town performance ever)

Game 19

Day 1 – town lynch – 8 votes – 2 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 2 – town lynch – 6 votes – 2 made by mafia (2 mafia remaining)
Day 3 – mafia lynch – 5 votes – 1 made by mafia (1 mafia remaining)
Day 4 – town lynch – 4 votes – 0 made by mafia
Day 5 – game-ending mafia lynch – 3 votes – 0 made by mafia

Game 20 – no point with its style (only 1 mafia)

Game 21

Day 1 – majority not reached
Day 2 – majority not reached yet again
Day 3 – mafia lynch – 9 votes – 2 made by mafia (6 mafia total)
Day 4 – mafia lynch – 8 votes – 3 made by mafia (4 mafia remaining)
Day 5 – game-ending town lynch – 5 votes – 2 made by mafia (3 mafia remaining)

Game 22

Day 1 – town lynch – 6 votes – 2 made by mafia (2 mafia total)
Day 2 – town lynch – 5 votes – 2 made by mafia
Day 3 – town lynch – 4 votes – 2 made by mafia
Day 4 - game-ending town lynch – 3 votes – 2 made by mafia

Game 23

Day 1 – town lynch – 7 votes – 2 made by mafia (3 mafia total)
Day 2 – town lynch – 5 votes – 1 made by mafia
Day 3 – mafia lynch – 4 votes – 2 made by mafia (2 mafia remaining)
Day 4 – mafia lynch – 3 votes – 0 made by mafia (1 mafia remaining)
Day 5 – game-ending mafia lynch – 2 votes – 0 made by mafia

Break.

(It was too long)


In all accounted games there were 88 "successful" lynches total (11 no-lynches), out of them 21 were game-ending lynches.
That leaves 67 non-game-ending lynches. I am ignoring game-ending lynches in following stats because they are very different in terms of mafia votes. There is obviously no mafia vote coming if it is mafia lynch and much more of them if it is town lynch.


Town lynches without mafia – 5/40
4 times with only 1 mafia remaining, once with 2 mafia still alive.


Mafia lynches without mafia – 5/23
4 of them with 1 mafia remaining, 1 with 2 mafia living.
All of them no sooner than Day 3 (1 x D3, 4 x D4). But to be fair, there were only 3 Day 2 mafia lynches up to this date and not a single D1 mafia lynch in already finished games.

It shows mafia rarely miss any wagon, be it town one or on their buddy. In fact, if there is more than 1 of them left, they missed lynchwagon only twice out of 67 attempts.
It is quite higher number if there is only 1 mafioso left as s/he plays all for himself. If I count right here, there were 19 lynches with only 1 other mafia left in game and out of them 8 were with no mafia involvement. It shows bigger tendency to stay hidden and not draw attention.

There were also 5 lynches of neutral (I am counting that 1 no-lynch as neutral) and every time they were backed by mafia. Never by all, once by only 1 and rest of time by 2. Shows mafia likes neutral lynches.

Now the other "extreme", lynches where all mafia voted.
There were 9 instances where every living mafia (when there was more than 1) voted on town lynch. Fairly high number (out of 40 town lynches) but it is worth mentioning that 1 of it was failed speedlynch, where we thought the game will end, so it was abnormal and 2 of them were in game with 2 mafia teams so not all of them were from 1 team. But both those times at least 1 complete team was on so it certainly counts.
On mafia lynch there were all remaining mafiosos 4 times (out of 23). 1 of them was after that failed speedlynch, though, where it was clear out of the go the person will get lynched and one was in 2 teams of mafia, so only one buddy was on the wagon, the remaining 2 players were from other team so it doesn't really count. So without these, only 2 times mafia got lynched with help of his all fellow scum. Even some lynched backed up by cop result did not get full support of mafia team.


If someone wants to hear more by chance, feel free to ask and I will see if I can provide.

Yeah ?

Well.

I had started checking stats on some things that interested me, and I grew tired of it half-way. I intend to finish it, but maybe you have the info more readily available i your database then me (I have to search the game threads everytime).

I wanted to compare the different first days.

For each game, I tried to write down :

- Total number of player
- Breakdown of players (T+N+M)
- Number of posts in day 1
- Number of realtime days in day 1
- Day 1 result (mafialynch, townlynch, agreed nolynch, deadline nolynch)
- Victorious party at endgame.

So I had so far :

G1:
12 players (9t+3m), 85 posts, 6 days, voted nolynch (M Win)

G2:
12 players (8t+1n+3m), 404 posts, 12 days, voted townlynch (M Win)

G3:
12 players (?+?+3m), 159 posts, 2 days, voted townlynch (M Win)

G4:
12 players (8t+1n+3m), 372 posts, 7 days, voted townlynch (T Win)

G5:
12 players (?+?+3m), 239 posts, 7 days, voted townlynch (T Win)

G6:
---- (game interrupted)

G7:
9 players (?+?+2m), 142 posts, 15 days, voted townlynch (M Win)

G8:
? players (?+?+3m), ??? posts, ? days, no lynch achieved (M Win)

G9:
15 players (?+?+2x2m), 469 posts, 19 days, voted townlynch (T Win)

G10:
13 players (9t+1n+3m), 409 posts, 21 days, voted townlynch (T Win)

G11:
16 players (?+?+2x2m), 796 posts, 28 days, no lynch achieved (M Win)

G12:
12 players (?+?+3m), 344 posts, ? days, modkill (T Win)

G13:
12 players (9t+3m), 497 posts, 29 days, townlynch (T Win)

G14:
14 players (?+?+3m), 1047 posts, 35 days, no lynch reached (T Win)

G15:
13 players (10t+3m), 756 posts, 43 days, no lynch reached (T Win)

G16:
11 players (?+?+3m), ........

I stopped there. Your latest list will help me fill the "day 1 result" colum, at lreast. But maybe you already have the other data handy ?

Thanks for pissing me off for my own incompetency.
I had both number of post in D1 and realtime days in D1 when I made my previous length of games post and apparently I haven't saved those. :-/
D1 results I just provided. It is most of times town lynch (12), several times nolynch (once intentional 7 times just from passed deadline), once neutral mod lynch, once modkill and in last game it was mafia lynch.
Victory party you can find in first post of this thread. ;-)
The rest I can provide you later.