Posted October 13, 2021
_Auster_
Sheeps or wolves?
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JakobFel
Knight of Serenity
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Posted October 14, 2021
Most likely, they'll include the ability to toggle this off and if they don't, someone will create an extension to fix the issue.
That said, I've been warning people about Mozilla for about a year now. They started raising some red flags to me when they abandoned neutrality and started getting political as a company. At the time, nothing about Firefox itself had me concerned but I was still being cautious with Mozilla; any time a company suddenly gets political, that is a warning that things may not entirely be as they seem.
That said, if people want to check out alternatives, I recommend Opera (specifically their gaming branch, Opera GX), Vivaldi, Brave or Gab's proprietary browser Dissenter (a fork of Brave). Of all of those, Opera is probably the closest to mainstream and they're not specifically the most privacy-conscious company but there haven't been any areas that raise concerns about privacy. Vivaldi is a nice balance of mainstream features and privacy. Brave and Dissenter are both very privacy-conscious and in the case of Dissenter, it is primarily focused on free speech due to being produced by the same team that runs Gab.
Personally, I switched to Opera GX back in early 2020 and haven't looked back. It has too many features I can't live without and with a couple extensions (Adguard, Privacy Badger, HTTPS Everywhere), along with enabling DNS-over-HTTPS (alongside changing your PC DNS to anything but your ISP or Google DNS), it's a great balance of features and privacy. However, I also do use Firefox, Vivaldi and Dissenter depending on what tasks I'm working on.
My strongest suggestion is to ditch Chrome and stay far, far away from it. Anything else can, for the most part, be locked down and patched up to avoid your data being sold by corpos.
That said, I've been warning people about Mozilla for about a year now. They started raising some red flags to me when they abandoned neutrality and started getting political as a company. At the time, nothing about Firefox itself had me concerned but I was still being cautious with Mozilla; any time a company suddenly gets political, that is a warning that things may not entirely be as they seem.
That said, if people want to check out alternatives, I recommend Opera (specifically their gaming branch, Opera GX), Vivaldi, Brave or Gab's proprietary browser Dissenter (a fork of Brave). Of all of those, Opera is probably the closest to mainstream and they're not specifically the most privacy-conscious company but there haven't been any areas that raise concerns about privacy. Vivaldi is a nice balance of mainstream features and privacy. Brave and Dissenter are both very privacy-conscious and in the case of Dissenter, it is primarily focused on free speech due to being produced by the same team that runs Gab.
Personally, I switched to Opera GX back in early 2020 and haven't looked back. It has too many features I can't live without and with a couple extensions (Adguard, Privacy Badger, HTTPS Everywhere), along with enabling DNS-over-HTTPS (alongside changing your PC DNS to anything but your ISP or Google DNS), it's a great balance of features and privacy. However, I also do use Firefox, Vivaldi and Dissenter depending on what tasks I'm working on.
My strongest suggestion is to ditch Chrome and stay far, far away from it. Anything else can, for the most part, be locked down and patched up to avoid your data being sold by corpos.
Post edited October 14, 2021 by JakobFel
Chasmancer
Rusty
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Posted October 14, 2021
JakobFel: I recommend Opera (specifically their gaming branch, Opera GX), Vivaldi, Brave or Gab's proprietary browser Dissenter (a fork of Brave).
Opera was everything one could want from a browser and more, but it was back when it ran on Presto. Today's Opera and Vivaldi are just... meh. Guess it's the expectations, though. Being compared to perfection that was and found wanting and all that. Brave and Pale Moon look decent measured up against Firefox, Chrome, Edge and the like.
JakobFel
Knight of Serenity
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Posted October 14, 2021
JakobFel: I recommend Opera (specifically their gaming branch, Opera GX), Vivaldi, Brave or Gab's proprietary browser Dissenter (a fork of Brave).
Chasmancer: Opera was everything one could want from a browser and more, but it was back when it ran on Presto. Today's Opera and Vivaldi are just... meh. Guess it's the expectations, though. Being compared to perfection that was and found wanting and all that. Brave and Pale Moon look decent measured up against Firefox, Chrome, Edge and the like.
Orkhepaj
SuperStraight Win10 Groomer Smasher
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From Hungary
Posted October 14, 2021
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JakobFel: I recommend Opera (specifically their gaming branch, Opera GX), Vivaldi, Brave or Gab's proprietary browser Dissenter (a fork of Brave).
Chasmancer: Opera was everything one could want from a browser and more, but it was back when it ran on Presto. Today's Opera and Vivaldi are just... meh. Guess it's the expectations, though. Being compared to perfection that was and found wanting and all that. Brave and Pale Moon look decent measured up against Firefox, Chrome, Edge and the like.
why would anyone want to use brave
Post edited October 14, 2021 by Orkhepaj
JakobFel
Knight of Serenity
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Posted October 14, 2021
Chasmancer: Opera was everything one could want from a browser and more, but it was back when it ran on Presto. Today's Opera and Vivaldi are just... meh.
Guess it's the expectations, though. Being compared to perfection that was and found wanting and all that. Brave and Pale Moon look decent measured up against Firefox, Chrome, Edge and the like.
Orkhepaj: brave rofl, that is just a hipster browser with way less features than the others Guess it's the expectations, though. Being compared to perfection that was and found wanting and all that. Brave and Pale Moon look decent measured up against Firefox, Chrome, Edge and the like.
why would anyone want to use brave
amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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Pouyou-pouyou
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Posted October 14, 2021
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amok: no one "manipulate your life", your life is very much your own. Yes, they use data for suggestions, data mining, selling of data and so on. But if you think they "manipulate your life" you either very much like to hyperbole, or I do have this nice shiny tinfoil hat store, and the winters collection have just come in, do have a look.
When tech giants mass censor, filter and select what you are allowed to see as "suggestions" that can be called manipulation.amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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Posted October 14, 2021
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amok: no one "manipulate your life", your life is very much your own. Yes, they use data for suggestions, data mining, selling of data and so on. But if you think they "manipulate your life" you either very much like to hyperbole, or I do have this nice shiny tinfoil hat store, and the winters collection have just come in, do have a look.
Pouyou-pouyou: When tech giants mass censor, filter and select what you are allowed to see as "suggestions" that can be called manipulation. any censorship or filtering is not based on private data collections, but regulations of a country you are in, company policies and users own settings, neither of which are part of data collections.
and suggestions are far from "maipulation". unless you think TV is "manipluating your life" as well by having adds. and we are all (i hope) living and thinking people, we have critical awarness. no one can "maipulate your life" unless you let go of this and let them. Personally, i don't mind that for example Amazon knows which types of books I prefer. It only means that when it makes recommendations, it will recommend a book i am more likely to like, and not some random rubbish. I am perfectly fine with that
Orkhepaj
SuperStraight Win10 Groomer Smasher
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From Hungary
Posted October 14, 2021
amok: no one "manipulate your life", your life is very much your own. Yes, they use data for suggestions, data mining, selling of data and so on. But if you think they "manipulate your life" you either very much like to hyperbole, or I do have this nice shiny tinfoil hat store, and the winters collection have just come in, do have a look.
Pouyou-pouyou: When tech giants mass censor, filter and select what you are allowed to see as "suggestions" that can be called manipulation. JakobFel
Knight of Serenity
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Posted October 14, 2021
The government benefits from it. They get the money for their campaigns from people who reap the benefits of this atrocious invasion of privacy. The governments of the world are all part of a large machine that is trying to screw everyone over time and time again for the sake of power and money.
HappyPunkPotato
Trouble with the trolley, eh?
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Posted October 14, 2021
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amok: any censorship or filtering is not based on private data collections, but regulations of a country you are in, company policies and users own settings, neither of which are part of data collections.
and suggestions are far from "maipulation". unless you think TV is "manipluating your life" as well by having adds.
That's literally what adverts are trying to do; manipulate you into buying something you wouldn't have. and suggestions are far from "maipulation". unless you think TV is "manipluating your life" as well by having adds.
Wasn't there something where Facebook manipulated the way people felt by deliberately showing them happy or sad posts? Even if you're completely immune to manipulation, that doesn't mean we all are.
Chasmancer
Rusty
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QWEEDDYZ
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Posted October 14, 2021
Mozzilla keep adverst themself as "free" from that - but that be lie and become lie long ago (decade?).
Alternatives? Old non-living browsers. Nuff said.
Alternatives? Old non-living browsers. Nuff said.
Post edited October 14, 2021 by QWEEDDYZ
Lucumo
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Posted October 14, 2021
Dark_art_: I've been using Firefox since like forever. There have been many changes, some a little controversy but for me, the last straw was forcing auto-updates. Not realy the very last since I still use Firefox but is stuck on a older version and when some weirdo website states my browser is too old to be supported, just switch UserAgent to Safari and every thing works.
XUL-based addon or not? I do have a changer but that one only offers IE versions, search bots and iphone (for some reason). Only use it because it makes Youtube less absolutely dreadful when there is no alternative. And yeah, Palemoon has been my alternative for more compatibility regarding WebAssembly bs.