Are you living in the 2000s?

Terabytes are so cheap now that this isn't even an issue anymore. The actual DL is far far more expensive.

even if your livelihood depended on it?

didn't think so.

you're a funny guy. the other guy who thought the Steam client was hogging his resources didn't bother you, then?

i have 4TB of storage right now, around 2 of which are occupied by Steam and other digital games. if i were to back up my digital games i'd need at least another 2TB. this isn't even a question of money (you do realize that prices of hard disks have exploded a year ago, right?). Steam doesn't require me to download a game and install it. it puts the files where they need to be and you're done. it saves you half the hard drive space. why would i not want this?!?

And you're missing the point. Unless you need to have all your games installed at once, you can install/uninstall as you like, therefore you realistically only need 2TB+ idon'tknow100GB?. No client needed to run, but then again I still don't get why hard drive space would be problematic at this stage. Compact installers are way more conservative on space and more flexible to use.

I have used blank dvd's to back up my games. Okay, it takes up some room in folders, but it's cheap to store games. Even if a game is like 15gb, just rar them and split them up onto a few discs. Then combine them once on the pc again. It takes a bit of time, but it's great.

i don't get what you want.

all i said was that i like Valve's delivery system. you download a game worth 30 GB and 30 GB of space is all you need. you download the same game off GOG or GamersGate you need 30 GB for the downloaded data and (provided that you keep your downloaded installer for back up purposes) another 30 GB for the installation.

of course you can delete what you don't need, etc. that's not the point was making, though.

That might be, but I often also buy GOTY edition with many DLC included and the effort to join Steam means work for me. If they want to make additional sales they should cater to my likes and I think the effort is not that much, but of course it's their decision. However I think that it's a wrong decision.

not sure if serious... what "effort"? what "work"? the same work it took you to sign up here? the same work it takes you to sign up on GamersGate? or for an e-mail address? come on.

if Steam is good enough for 50 million PC gamers it's only fair for Paradox to expect it to be good enough for you as well, wouldn't you think so? unfortunately for you, the world doesn't revolve around you and your preferences.

Paradox will do whatever makes most sense to them economically. if they think a DRM-free GamersGate edition is no longer profitable, they'll go SteamWorks. the few sales they might lose would probably be offset by what they gain from having only a single edition of their games out there and bandwith going through Steam instead of GamersGate.

I'm pretty sure their effort to accommodate the people who were insistent on a DRM-free options, which meant separate patches and hosting and support and the like vastly outweighed the possible effort it would cost you and others like you to sign up for Steam.

Not to mention the countless other benefits the developers get from Steamworks.

You might want to read up on this renowned "offline mode" as a lot of people cant activate it without first being online, which DEFINETLY is a problem, i've contacted their support about this a 100 times, with no helpful responses at all, it seems to be a deliberate choice so people won't be able to share accounts for offline plays, so fuckem.

As the work for free part, i do this for people i love yes :)

Those people should attend some IT lesson 101, because I downloaded a few games on my girlfriend's laptop yesterday, went to offline mode and then ran them for the first time, and there wasn't any problems with being offline.

The only problem is, and it's quite rare, if steam has scheduled update, then you can't go into offline mode until steam updates. And it's probably because steam is badly written as an application, not because they hate you.

I don't know if you didn't get what i said or what the problem was, theres VERY few people saying they have problem "going offline" going offline is fine, its logging into a pc which allready has no net, then trying to go onto steam which is the big problem, especially if you was online when you shut your pc down.

That is a completely different scenario then you logging into steam, then hitting "offline mode" button or whatever.

Looks like I'll be buying bootleg on this one then.

Fuck Paradox. They sold out to Steam long ago, which is why I no longer buy from them.

Yeah! Screw these developers for going with the most beneficial option when most of their userbase is already using it anywaY!! WHAAAGHHH!!

Congratulations for being one of the sheeple.

Thank God my parents taught me to think for myself. Unfortunately, most of the younger generation are nothing more than robots tying themselves to big corporations and talking away all choice. Rah rah Steam. Fanboys - you're hilarious.

I don't think Paradox give a crap about what users think as Steam only earns them most money
Besides be patient and it will be on GamersGate like every other Paradox release