And vice versa.

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Speaking generally now:

The problem is that the customer base, by pirating, is giving up whatever moral high ground might exist in the issue, and thus the publishers are given ammunition for every time the DRM argument comes up. So when we - the collective customer-base "we" - say that we pirate (steal) because they put in DRM theft prevention measures (which are legal), "we" are weakening our own cause. It doesn't matter whether or not they lose a single penny over it (the whole "lost sales" argument). What matters is that we continue to take the stuff for free. That will be their rallying cry until people simply stop stealing the products.

I don't give a crap about the "it isn't stealing because it's not a physical product!" argument, because it doesn't matter. What matters is that we acquire through dubious means stuff that has been assigned a price and thus - arguments to the contrary - someone is arbitrarily getting something for nothing, a something that other people are paying for.

And that's why piracy to avoid DRM is bullshit. It doesn't help the DRM-free cause; to the contrary, it hurts it. It may make those pirating the products feel better about it because they as individuals chose to get around the matter (Theft, yeah! That'll show 'em!), but it screws over the rest of us just a little bit every time as piracy is one of the reasons DRM exists.



That's not how we build the trust that is necessary in order for companies to change their stance on DRM. Someone has to take the high road. If it's not the publishers and it's not the customer base, then this isn't going to change.

Well it's not like drm actually helps to stop piracy, it only hurts legit users.
Dunno bout you but some drm are overkill, like activation limit for example. Or the ones that drop performance or simply make it impossible to install the game, you know this shit has happened :P

For me piracy is this nice thing that lets clients tell publishers fuck you when they overdo it. I see it more as a matter of protest.

I can also see people pirate games they would rent out but are unable, because they play on pc not a console (cod games? shit worth only few hours of gameplay).

Ofcourse i can speak of it this way because a lot of games are currently in reasonable prices on digital download sales on pc, but the matter of price can also be a reason, 5$ can make a incredible difference depending on where you live and the exchange rates.

Still i don't want piracy to disappear, if that'd happen nothing would stop producers to pull of bunch of shit even crazier than dlc or paid mods.

And let's not pretend market will sort it out. Mobile microtransaction games are proof that a few rich idiots can make huge impact on the game.

Maybe you should get some other hackers and keep trying man...

Here.

maybe you have to learn polish and be smart as astronaunt?

my notebook PC doesn't have a DVD/CD drive built-in, so i recently spent ~8 hours(apparently because decryption) cloning an image of the 2nd Disc of HOMM3 Complete(bought legitimately but 3rd-hand from a reseller) with an external DVD drive, just so i can play it without the CD and without any bugs(the No-CD crack pops up annoying error msgs if i don't perfectly copy over the DRM part of the CD).

... later, i realised i could have just downloaded the ISO (thus pirating the more modern way) in less than an hour. but whatever, i still like having my games in physical form, but DRM can be very very annoying.

Well I did find a reason to start a little bit more than I expected. Two reasons.

First for some reason I'm only getting 160k/sec, which is slower than expected from previous experience. I can only guess because so many people are downloading their StarWars games... Or maybe it's really busy on the internet here at 10PM...

The second (and perhaps more important reason) is due to game splitting it's more confusing, and some games it's horribly un-optimal to split the games. I'd have preferred if they kept the joined games as an option, or in settings where we can opt-out... Or a separate tab of split games.

People who are talking of piracy in few words are mostly victims of cognitive bias.
They reverse completely the reallity.
Piracy encourage the use of DRM.

Make piracy of games from gog is foolish and disrespectful.
As it's for any others release on others platforms.

Just don't go on piracy, excepting for short test (demo) when it's not available.
Pay your goods.
The industry is bad on one point, not giving demo most time today.

I feel shame for people putting gog releases on torrent...they understand nothing and deserve a giant facepalm.
While claiming that GOG is not again piracy by their manifesto. I call it bullshit.

I would imagine that most of the people talking in the thread are dead or retired now it is such an old thread...