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I like to thank you all for your kind replys. For me this is all more about Steam problem handling and how they are not giving away information, although there are issues affecting customers. If i am seeing Borderlands GotY 4 weeks till delivery on amazon i don't think fuck you, i will just buy it somewhere else. Most companys have issues from time to time and i would not be as disappointed if i would not have tried so many fixes myself, because steam was holding back information, they probably already had.

Here is an example of a user trying and getting various fixes suggested, although the problem is not on his side and is already known by Steam. I feel like steam pay him every hour he wasted on fixes, because they did not inform him on issues they were causing and they did already know about.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2855251

Personally I have already got a refund from amazon.com for my game and what is funny, I could actually play the game (i can download it, which you can't if you have the problem described), as I described there seems to be a lucky lottery if your account gets fixed or not, but there are still reports of people who are not able to play the game.
Post edited August 08, 2012 by dye408
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orcishgamer: I'm pretty sure the disc based Borderlands GotY works just fine with just Origin if you want, haven't tried it yet, but it's what I've been told.
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Coelocanth: I don't know how Origin works but I wonder if you could use the Steam key to activate the DD game on Origin?
No, but the old GotY PC copies came with codes to download the DLC from EA.
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It sucks to be players in Germany, but that's what you get for World War 2 :P.
I'm currently downloading it. I'll try it in a few hours.
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dye408: snip
Could you please fix the links in the OP. I want to read the official answers.
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jamyskis: Borderlands, I must admit, is a new one to me. There are certain games that will not activate from keys though - Saints' Row 2 and 3, Modern Warfare 2 and now Inversion.
This is a different issue. "Can't activate in your region" is the error with the games above. If it is another error, it is not this.
Post edited August 09, 2012 by SimonG
1. Since when does GoG sell BORDERLANDS?
2. The retail version of the game (normal and GOTY) only uses SecuRom as copy protection. There's no Steamworks or Origin or anything else. And there is no trouble with activating it (uncut version) in Germany, none.
3. The DLCs are available through the game site itself and not through EA's or any other site.
Post edited August 09, 2012 by mitcharts
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jamyskis: You've put all this effort into describing a long-known problem with Steam, the same reason why so many people hate it in Germany, Japan and Australia. It's nothing new.
Like in Australia they told me that the Achievements were made by the publishers and not steam (ya funny how I was talking about HL2 steam achievements being TOO HARD to achieve!)
The links should be fixed now, if not please you can leave a comment and as a workaround look the link up in the Version posted in the Steam Forum, there it should work.

Also provided a small update, JacobU still tells us it is 2k Games fault, because they distributed uncut keys to the distributers...
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dye408: Also provided a small update, JacobU still tells us it is 2k Games fault, because they distributed uncut keys to the distributers...
Have you contacted 2K? In my experience, they have been fairly good at solving similar issues (such as with Mafia 2 and Duke Nukem Forever here). But that was when 2KElizabeth was around. She's since left, so I can't comment on whether the current community rep (2KGreg?) is as helpful.

But considering that 2K advised me to import an US (uncut version) of Mafia 2 when we were having issues here with Valve not releasing it, I can't seem them caring whether you are playing an uncut version or not. Of course, Valve won't step down unless 2K tell them to.
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dye408: Also provided a small update, JacobU still tells us it is 2k Games fault, because they distributed uncut keys to the distributers...
How bizarre. If it weren't for Steam's absurd regional locks, 2K wouldn't have had this problem. But then Valve is not one to admit when they're in the wrong. MikeB and JacobU will always blame others until they're blue in the face.
I admit I skimmed the original post a little, but what I gathered can be summed like this:

This issue affects only Germans. I bought the game on Amazon.com.

Amazon.com sells only to US residents. It's not okay that Steam lets someone in Germany activate keys from Amazon.com, but I think that anyone in Germany who buys a game outside of Germany can be expected to have a problem.

I'm sure that Steam could handle this better, but I know whenever I try to trick the system (and yes, I bought stuff on Amazon.com even though I'm not from the US) I know it's a risk.
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dye408: This would be a solution for most games, but not for borderlands, since it is steamworks. There no legal way to play it without Steam.
I bought the base game at Get Games (link). It's not Steamworks. Says so on the page.
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ET3D: This issue affects only Germans. I bought the game on Amazon.com.

Amazon.com sells only to US residents. It's not okay that Steam lets someone in Germany activate keys from Amazon.com, but I think that anyone in Germany who buys a game outside of Germany can be expected to have a problem.
Why? you aren't american either and I suppose you activated your key on steam too. What's it bother you if Germans do the same?

What kinda logic is that?
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WBGhiro: Why? you aren't american either and I suppose you activated your key on steam too. What's it bother you if Germans do the same?

What kinda logic is that?
It's a gamble. You fake any US address and take the risk. I do it every time. But if it doesn't work, then I'm screwed. I know the risk.

Steam has no reason to accommodate those who do this (unlike EU actions within the EU).
Post edited August 09, 2012 by SimonG
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ET3D: I admit I skimmed the original post a little, but what I gathered can be summed like this:

This issue affects only Germans. I bought the game on Amazon.com.

Amazon.com sells only to US residents. It's not okay that Steam lets someone in Germany activate keys from Amazon.com, but I think that anyone in Germany who buys a game outside of Germany can be expected to have a problem.

I'm sure that Steam could handle this better, but I know whenever I try to trick the system (and yes, I bought stuff on Amazon.com even though I'm not from the US) I know it's a risk.
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dye408: This would be a solution for most games, but not for borderlands, since it is steamworks. There no legal way to play it without Steam.
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ET3D: I bought the base game at Get Games (link). It's not Steamworks. Says so on the page.
Surely being in Israel, you're well aware of how frustrating it is to a PC gamer to be subject to regional locks (GFWL and all?)
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WBGhiro: Why? you aren't american either and I suppose you activated your key on steam too. What's it bother you if Germans do the same?

What kinda logic is that?
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SimonG: It's a gamble. You fake any US address and take the risk. I do it every time. But if it doesn't work, then I'm screwed. I know the risk.
I got the part about the risk, I just don't understand why Germans specifically shouldn't be allowed to take that risk.

At least that's what I understand from ET3D's post. I might be misreading something horribly wrong.
Post edited August 09, 2012 by WBGhiro
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SimonG: Steam has no reason to accommodate those who do this (unlike EU actions within the EU).
Now this all depends doesn't it. Are you saying that when the publisher obviously doesn't care, that Valve are still allowed to dictate whether you can have access to that publisher's content?

While I can't comment on the specifics of this case, I can comment on Mafia 2 in which the content available from locally sold retail versions (and Steam sold versions) is different to that of import versions. For one thing, the local version is in Japanese only. 2K, themselves, suggested that those of us who wanted to play in English, import the game from the US. And even went as far as linking to various sources to do so.

It was then found that Valve were locking out activation of those import copies. Once 2K were made aware of this, they instructed Valve to remove the IP blocks. Further, they now sell the uncut English language version directly in Japan via Amazon JP's download service.

The same happened with DNF. Only in that case, 2K were selling it to us via non-Steam sources. Again, once informed it was unplayable, they not only instructed Valve to remove the IP block, but to also sell the game to us.

So my point is that 2K have shown that they don't have any problem with people playing specific versions of their games in specific regions. So why are Valve now dictating which regions can access specific content published by 2K (and any other third party publisher?)

Do you not see an issue with allowing Valve to do that (against publisher wishes)?
Post edited August 09, 2012 by bansama