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ZPavelZ: Well that is at least some good news. :) I remember when I saw that one should use "guest pass" for 30 days of offline play, I just told myself "no way am I going to pay for something, which I will only be able to use on a temporary basis as if I have not bought it".
The Guest pass was to allow somebody else to play for free for 30 days (30 days wasn't the only limitation IRC there was some limit in the number of hours you could play too)

The game itself allowed you to play offline but you were still forced to re-activate it online once every 30 days. That was still pretty asshole-ish compared to other DRMs but at least there was an offline mode.
Post edited May 01, 2012 by Gersen
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Thanks. I guess I should say it's not that I'm THAT old, it's just because of my weight, well, like the doctor told me. How many 60+ people do see that weight over 300 pounds? There's a reason for that. Most folks with that problem don't live much beyond 60. It never really hit me till he put it to me that way. And since then, every time I've gone out I do look. And he's right, you don't see many 60+, certainly 65+ people that weight over 300 pounds. (Don't know what that comes it to in kilograms, but whatever it is, it's pretty pathetic, trust me.)
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@OldFatGuy:
It's around 140 kilograms I believe.
Well I guess it beats living in a country like mine :)

In 2006 I was actually repartiated to France because of the Israeliens bombing on civilians.
Now I'm back, and it still is a very unbalanced and dangerous country...

So I'd give my youth in a country where bombs can land on your heads, and you could get killed anytime by the militia for being old and fat resting peacefully in my house, and complaining about a broken PC :p...


Sorry if I sound disrespectful, I didn't mean to... It's that everything is relative and you have to try and learn to appreciate the small things you have in life :-)
Post edited May 01, 2012 by N0x0ss
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Gersen: The Guest pass was to allow somebody else to play for free for 30 days (30 days wasn't the only limitation IRC there was some limit in the number of hours you could play too)

The game itself allowed you to play offline but you were still forced to re-activate it online once every 30 days. That was still pretty asshole-ish compared to other DRMs but at least there was an offline mode.
Ok, thanks for clarifying the issue. I know Guest Pass was for a, well, guest. What I did not know was that you could still play offline without the guest pass (i.e. with your own account).
I won't be getting Diablo 3 because of the constant online requirement. I too would most likely only want to play the SP, and as my connection glitches now and then, it's just not worth the hassle.

OldFatGuy - I can really empathise with your position. I'm 45 this year and weigh over 30 stones (over 420 pounds), due to my other health problems. But I'm slowly tyring to lose some of that weight through diet management. Can't exercise much because I have COPD (basically a lung disease) and I get out of breath really quick, so it's damned hard. However, you can do it if you put your mind to it.

AS for your other points, I agree with you. We're heading for a digital only game streaming future, but I'll fight tooth and nail before we reach that point. I'll keep buying DRM-free games from GOG for as long as they're around - and I hope that's a long time.

On the plus side, as a game collector with well over 300 PC games, even if the game industry crashed overnight I'd be good for my gaming needs for the foreseeable future.

Keep on trucking, man.
I will cast my vote with the "not buying Diablo 3" crowd. I never played either of the other two games online either. It is a shame because I'm sure I would've enjoyed it.

I fail to see any difference between Blizzard and Ubisoft when it comes to always online DRM. Ubi has taken much heat on the internet for their DRM but I feel as if Bizzard has gotten off quite easy. I'm not going to rag on either company for their buisness decisions I just won't purchase any game from any company who uses such heavy handed DRM. After all I do have my principles. I should also state that I will not pirate their games either. At least Ubisoft can see the value in DRM free software, as evident with their line up here. Hopefully Blizzard will see the light too at some point.
I'm "boycotting" Diablo 3, because I know exactly what to expect from it and it's something I've played before.

Diablo 1 was fun.

Diablo 2 was fine, but I wasn't impressed by the fact that the ultimate build usually involved leveling mostly 1 move, making the gameplay quite repetitive after a point.

Then, I played 2-3 Diablo-like games that I found had more depth.

At this point, I don't see Blizzard doing anything revolutionary with the franchise so I've become a bit blassé about it.

I trust them to make it a well polished quality product, but I don't really expect them to push any boundaries so more of the same (with more bling and an extra layer of polish) is on par for the course.

At this point, I'm more interested in their NEW games rather than their sequels.
Post edited May 01, 2012 by Magnitus
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N0x0ss: @OldFatGuy:
It's around 140 kilograms I believe.
Well I guess it beats living in a country like mine :)

In 2006 I was actually repartiated to France because of the Israeliens bombing on civilians.
Now I'm back, and it still is a very unbalanced and dangerous country...

So I'd give my youth in a country where bombs can land on your heads, and you could get killed anytime by the militia for being old and fat resting peacefully in my house, and complaining about a broken PC :p...


Sorry if I sound disrespectful, I didn't mean to... It's that everything is relative and you have to try and learn to appreciate the small things you have in life :-)
You're right. And I sincerely apologize to you, to everyone here at GOG, and to everyone out there in the world that is struggling with everyday life things, like basic survival. I am truly sorry. I am actually probably the luckiest man on earth, yet sound like a whiner. I'm so sorry for that.

WIsh everyone reading all the best. This is a great community. Hope you all have a great and SAFE future, and that the best days of your past will be the worst of your future.

Joe
OldFatGuy
Post edited May 01, 2012 by OldFatGuy
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Magnitus: I trust them to make it a well polished quality product, but I don't really expect them to push any boundaries so more of the same (with more bling and an extra layer of polish) is on par for the course.

At this point, I'm more interested in their NEW games rather than their sequels.
This, very much so.
My experience/feelings with Diablo/Blizzard (and "clones") over the years has been much the same as yours. Except I liked Diablo2 a bit more perhaps. Or at least, I liked it enough to keep playing it off and on for a few years (mostly alone, mostly just item hunting...).
Ubi has taken much heat on the internet for their DRM but I feel as if Bizzard has gotten off quite easy.
This too. Shows how good at marketing/PR/goodwill rep. buildup has been for Blizzard. I hear "but it's a MP/online game anyway, whoever plays single-player Diablo??" but the point is they're taking away player-choice and actually shutting some people out (no regular internet, low bandwidth limits etc). And lots played Diablo's offline.
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OldFatGuy: You're right. And I sincerely apologize to you, to everyone here at GOG, and to everyone out there in the world that is struggling with everyday life things, like basic survival. I am truly sorry. I am actually probably the luckiest man on earth, yet sound like a whiner. I'm so sorry for that.

WIsh everyone reading all the best. This is a great community. Hope you all have a great and SAFE future, and that the best days of your past will be the worst of your future.

Joe
OldFatGuy
We all get easily entangled into our own problems. Perhaps, one of the better things about hearing other's problems is a way to compare them with yours and be happier. I do not think you offended/insulted anyone, do not worry. :)

I also had this experience of getting a little bit too rough with people, when their problems would seem "so little compared to mine". :)

I remember this: If everyone would put their problems into a common pile and have a right to choose any of those in it, each person would most probably just take back their own. :)
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OldFatGuy: You're right. And I sincerely apologize to you, to everyone here at GOG, and to everyone out there in the world that is struggling with everyday life things, like basic survival. I am truly sorry. I am actually probably the luckiest man on earth, yet sound like a whiner. I'm so sorry for that.

WIsh everyone reading all the best. This is a great community. Hope you all have a great and SAFE future, and that the best days of your past will be the worst of your future.

Joe
OldFatGuy
Sorry, but I absolutely fucking hate the argument N0x0ss puts forth. Don't apologize (unless you were being disrespectful to him directly)! There's always someone who's got it worse, that doesn't make your problems magically go away. This whole "first world problems" mentality has way less basis in reality than people make it out to have.

You find me a child starving to death and I'll find you one that is starving to death after watching his parents get chopped to bits by a militia. Then I'll find the one that was raped and watched his parents and siblings get chopped up and is now starving. Then we'll find one that's worse than that... so what? If you cannot somehow get access to the things that people in your social group (largely country specific at this point) have you probably have at least a partially valid gripe. If you're sick, you're sick, it doesn't matter that someone has terminal cancer and you only have pneumonia, they both pass the "something to bitch about" threshold and I'll stand right beside you and to tell anyone who has an issue with you complaining about a legitimate gripe to stick a cork in it.

I swear, it's like some people want a monopoly on misery! It's completely beyond me why anyone would ever want that...!
Post edited May 01, 2012 by orcishgamer
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OldFatGuy:
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orcishgamer: Sorry, but I absolutely fucking hate the argument N0x0ss puts forth. Don't apologize (unless you were being disrespectful to him directly)! There's always someone who's got it worse, that doesn't make your problems magically go away. This whole "first world problems" mentality has way less basis in reality than people make it out to have.

You find me a child starving to death and I'll find you one that is starving to death after watching his parents get chopped to bits by a militia. Then I'll find the one that was raped and watched his parents and siblings get chopped up and is now starving. Then we'll find one that's worse than that... so what? If you cannot somehow get access to the things that people in your social group (largely country specific at this point) have you probably have at least a partially valid gripe. If you're sick, you're sick, it doesn't matter that someone has terminal cancer and you only have pneumonia, they both pass the "something to bitch about" threshold and I'll stand right beside you and to tell anyone who has an issue with you complaining about a legitimate gripe to stick a cork in it.

I swear, it's like some people want a monopoly on misery! It's completely beyond me why anyone would ever want that...!
Did you even read my argument ^^ with all due respect.. I didn't jump with that argument... I just wanted to make him feel better, and tell him he might be luckier than he thinks he is .


I do understand him though, we all have bad days... But it's been a while now that I see negative thougths from him and wanted to share my thoughts... sorry about that, didn't mean to sound judging or anythin.
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orcishgamer: Sorry, but I absolutely fucking hate the argument N0x0ss puts forth. Don't apologize (unless you were being disrespectful to him directly)! There's always someone who's got it worse, that doesn't make your problems magically go away. This whole "first world problems" mentality has way less basis in reality than people make it out to have.

You find me a child starving to death and I'll find you one that is starving to death after watching his parents get chopped to bits by a militia. Then I'll find the one that was raped and watched his parents and siblings get chopped up and is now starving. Then we'll find one that's worse than that... so what? If you cannot somehow get access to the things that people in your social group (largely country specific at this point) have you probably have at least a partially valid gripe. If you're sick, you're sick, it doesn't matter that someone has terminal cancer and you only have pneumonia, they both pass the "something to bitch about" threshold and I'll stand right beside you and to tell anyone who has an issue with you complaining about a legitimate gripe to stick a cork in it.

I swear, it's like some people want a monopoly on misery! It's completely beyond me why anyone would ever want that...!
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N0x0ss: Did you even read my argument ^^ with all due respect.. I didn't jump with that argument... I just wanted to make him feel better, and tell him he might be luckier than he thinks he is .


I do understand him though, we all have bad days... But it's been a while now that I see negative thougths from him and wanted to share my thoughts... sorry about that, didn't mean to sound judging or anythin.
My apologies if I misunderstood. What I read sounded like a different kind of statement to me, one that I have an issue with. If your intent was different than that then no offense intended.
Well I can say one thing for sure, we all here are fortunate enough to have time to spend on what we like, that is, old games and discussing about old games.

It's true that everybody here has her/his share of personal problems, and some of them come here to decompress and change their mind. (My case at least)

I think that OldFactGuy really likes this community, otherwise he wouldn't show feeling, concern, empathy when posting here. And I also like this community eventhough I've only been here a month.
Anyway, It my sound lame and ...preachy, but if anybody does want to talk about his personal problems, I don't have any objection and I'll listen to his/heir problem as long as it doesn't involve weird fetichism or mass murdering desires :)

PS : Gameon, I really liked your former avatar better :/...
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DieRuhe: I just feel like saying: whatever happened to actually playing a game and earning what you get in it?

I know, many people like to cheat, or buy their way to "greatness", but to me that kinda ruins the whole idea of playing a game. Don't feel like doing the work to obtain something? No problem, someone will sell it to you! You, too, can become an overnight success! :-)
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Pheace: However, despite having that option, nothing is stopping you from just playing the game and earning what you get in it :)

And for others who feel they'd rather trade what they earned for other stuff they didn't get themselves they can do that as well.
I know. Some like it, some hate it. Personally I think it's part of the "problem" with games these days, but that's just my opinion. And by "problem" I mean that, to me, they're turning the whole in-game transaction thing into a monster and I see it as a distraction/detraction from the game itself.
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N0x0ss: PS : Gameon, I really liked your former avatar better :/...
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gameon: As requested.
Hum, wanna play it this way >.< ?? Ok then gonna change my Avatar to something that represents me a bit more :D