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General discussionAll D&D classics up to 60% off this weekend during our 3rd birthday celebration!(499 posts)(499 posts)
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Posted September 22, 2011
We're launching the weekend early this week as good things should last longer. You've been waiting for this promo for a while, and it's finally here!

You knew this day will finally come, and at last you can grab the great Dungeons & Dragons classics, including Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment or Neverwinter Nights, for prices so crazy you have to figure that we're Chaotic Neutral. With this deal we're also testing a totally new promo system that gives you a bigger discount the more games you buy in one order. We're starting with a 20% discount if you buy one game from the offer. Every another game from the promo that you add to the order increases your discount with another 5%, so 2 games get you 25% off, 3 games get you 30% off and so on, until you get a 60% discount on your order of the whole D&D collection. Of course if you already own some of the games from the promo they will count towards your final discount!

The promo ends on Monday, September 26 at 11:59 p.m. EDT, so there's no time to lose, and you'll never know when a similar occasion will happen again.
Posted September 23, 2011
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drelbs: Semi random question:

If Planescape Torment is the second most wanted game on GOG.COM, what's the first?
Of the games already on GOG? Probably Fallout 2.

Otherwise, System Shock 2.
Posted September 23, 2011
I think would have made more sense for the discount to be 30 to 70%, or 40% to 80%.

A 20% discount for one game or 60% for 9 games doesn't seem like much savings.
Posted September 23, 2011
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yyahoo: Well, some of us *are* here because it's DRM free and wouldn't touch Steam with a 10 mile pole. So, this sale was for people like me, and we couldn't be happier... And again, as previously stated, that's fine.
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Mikdog: Good for "some of us." It's still a lousy promo system that really only rewards people who own next to no classic games. DRM doesn't bother me at all unless it's so oppressive that it prevents me from playing the game entirely. As for extras....yeah, useless. I'm not against gog.com, and I understand that their goal is to make as much money as possible, but it's clear that Steam has realized that better (static) sales are far more likely to drive up sales. Gog did it once, and then they fumbled the ball and went back to this garbage. Here's hoping they get back on track for the holiday sales.
I don't like the new promo system either, but if you're happy with SteaDRM and you prefer their sales, then what's the problem with buying your games from them? I don't know how much these games are on Steam (10 mile pole thing and all), but if it's a better deal, get them there.

I'm not sure if I'll like this promo system in the future, but considering I got 9 games for less than it would have cost to buy 4 of them at regular price, I'm pretty happy. And that's even considering that I already owned 1 of them in hard copy form.

I'm with you on the discount form, but I don't think Steam has any place in being compared to GOG. They may both be a form of digital distribution, but in truth, they're just not the same in so many other ways.
Posted September 23, 2011
When I read the e-mail about these being on-sale I was excited and came immediately to the site. Then I read about the new promotion system and scratched my head. I wasn't sure what I thought of it. So them I started adding items to my cart (the four items I wanted) and then had a strongly negative reaction to the new promo system. Buying the games for 60% off is what enticed me to come here. But in order to get to that discount I quickly began to feel that I needed to buy games I didn't want. I didn't like that feeling, at all.

There is an element of "bait and switch" to the new promo system. Understand that my choice isn't between GOG, GG, or Impulse for 9.99. My choice is between GOG and Bittorrent. I prefer to buy games legally both because that's honorable and because I want to support developers making more games. But if I feel like I'm being manipulated I'll just go back to being a parasite. One shady source is as good as the next.
Posted September 23, 2011
Bought all games in this sale. I've been waiting for an opportunity to buy some of my old school favorites at a discount. I'm sure I would have been less happy if I already had any of these on Gog but for me the sale was perfect.
Posted September 23, 2011
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worlddan: There is an element of "bait and switch" to the new promo system. Understand that my choice isn't between GOG, GG, or Impulse for 9.99. My choice is between GOG and Bittorrent. I prefer to buy games legally both because that's honorable and because I want to support developers making more games. But if I feel like I'm being manipulated I'll just go back to being a parasite. One shady source is as good as the next.
What the... This isn't the first time someone in this thread has acted as if this sale is somehow a rip-off. I just can't wrap my head around that.

"Bait and switch", really? How the promotion works is pretty clearly explained, and it's not like "buy more, save more" is some new, unknown concept. It's not more of a manipulation than many, many other sales at other places.

It's a sale. Someone is offering you a discount on already good prices for some of their best selling products. No matter how many games you buy you get a discount, so it is a sale - nothing worse. No matter if you think it's a good sale or not, it's a sale.

If you don't think the discount is good, or (which would be much more sensible to look at) you don't think the games are worth the price asked - then just don't buy them. It's that simple. But acting as if you're being ripped off, calling GOG a "shady place" and saying that you might as well pirate... just because they offer you a discount on popular games... I can't fathom that.
Posted September 23, 2011
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Pheace: Some of us aren't here because it's DRM-free or there's extra's we're likely to never look at.
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yyahoo: Well, some of us *are* here because it's DRM free and wouldn't touch Steam with a 10 mile pole. So, this sale was for people like me, and we couldn't be happier... And again, as previously stated, that's fine.
You can complain about steam and DRM all day for all I care. Just don't expect everyone to be here for the same thing. DRM free and extra's aren't significant deciders for everyone.
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Posted September 23, 2011
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Zabinatrix: If you don't think the discount is good, or (which would be much more sensible to look at) you don't think the games are worth the price asked - then just don't buy them. It's that simple. But acting as if you're being ripped off, calling GOG a "shady place" and saying that you might as well pirate... just because they offer you a discount on popular games... I can't fathom that.
It's a pretty common entitlement mentality. The starting position is that person deserves the game anyway. He's just throwing GOG/Bioware/Atari a bone by paying for it. But if GOG doesn't meet his demands, he takes away the bone, since he feels they don't deserve it.
Posted September 23, 2011
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doady: I think would have made more sense for the discount to be 30 to 70%, or 40% to 80%.

A 20% discount for one game or 60% for 9 games doesn't seem like much savings.
It doesn't seem like much savings? Have you tried actually looking at it?

In my case I own two of these games already. If I buy the six "expensive" ones I don't own I'll be paying $26.94 and saving $33.00. Seems pretty decent to me.

Oh, and if I toss on the "cheap" 7th game that I don't own - The Temple of Elemental Evil - the total price will actually drop 61 cents to $26.33 and the total savings will rise to $39.60. Yeah that's right, even if I didn't want The Temple of Elemental Evil, they'll effectively pay me to take it with the others. That seems like an insanely good sale to me.

Thanks GOG, I will be purchasing these all this weekend.
Posted September 23, 2011
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worlddan: When I read the e-mail about these being on-sale I was excited and came immediately to the site. Then I read about the new promotion system and scratched my head. I wasn't sure what I thought of it. So them I started adding items to my cart (the four items I wanted) and then had a strongly negative reaction to the new promo system. Buying the games for 60% off is what enticed me to come here. But in order to get to that discount I quickly began to feel that I needed to buy games I didn't want. I didn't like that feeling, at all.
So your real problem is that you didn't understand the email. The email says: D&D games up to 60% off. Which means, quite clearly, that 60% is the maximum savings. Which obviously means that 60% is not the minimum savings. Then, in the email it also (quite clearly) says: "Buy more to save more!" followed by an explanation saying that the more you purchase the bigger your discount.

So there is no bait and switch or trickery. You simply didn't understand the email. I'm sure that you didn't like that feeling at all but I'm afraid you're looking in the wrong place to assign blame.
Posted September 23, 2011
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tfishell: Then DRM-free and extras aren't that important to you. That's fine.
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Pheace: Some of us aren't here because it's DRM-free or there's extra's we're likely to never look at.
Do explain, please.
Posted September 23, 2011
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Pheace: Some of us aren't here because it's DRM-free or there's extra's we're likely to never look at.
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tfishell: Do explain, please.
What's to explain?
Posted September 23, 2011
keep being on the verge of picking up 4 of the games (IWD1 & 2, NWN, and TOEE)...I have DG1&T and PS:T already. Almost pulled the trigger, but I've got too much backlog right now and the price is $4.50 per game on average which is high for TOEE and I think the normal price for the others should already be $5.99 so I'll wait and just play one of the other too many games on my backlog :( I'll look for the next sale on these after a permanent price drop
Posted September 23, 2011
Awesome deal. I was waiting for a good opportunity to buy Torment and Baldurs Gate for some time. Thank you GoG!
Posted September 23, 2011
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Zabinatrix: ....snip

If you don't think the discount is good, or (which would be much more sensible to look at) you don't think the games are worth the price asked - then just don't buy them. It's that simple. But acting as if you're being ripped off, calling GOG a "shady place" and saying that you might as well pirate... just because they offer you a discount on popular games... I can't fathom that.
I think historians will look back on this generation and just call it the "entitlement generation" :/

Sadly, I don't think he was being sarcastic... he truly feels that because another sale was a straight up 60% off, then ALL sales must forever be that to meet his expectations otherwise he was being wronged.

Sadlier... his post was not the first of complaints. People claiming that 20% off wasn't a sale, among other things are riddled throughout the thread. In my experience... no matter how selfish you are... you really don't want a company to take a loss on sales. If they do they will have to make up for it in other ways and they will always come back to bite the customer when that happens. No matter how spiteful or ego-centered one can be, it is truly in their best interests for GoG to actually make money. They typically just don't realize this until its too late.

I like to look at it from a mathematical viewpoint.

Fact - GoG did not raise the price of any games for this sale. All games that were 9.99, were 9.99 for months if not longer BEFORE this sale.

Fact - 7.99 IS less than 9.99. Let me repeat... FACT!

Argue for yourselves if you think that the smaller number is an insult, but I hope it falls on GoG's turned ear as its forgetting some basic principles taught in the few years of a child's schooling.

If GoG were to read too much into the complaints (and they seem smart enough not to), and they decided to sell games cheaper than they could afford to, you would start to lose services like patches, server stability, permanent access to purchased games, new developers added to the catalog, etc, etc to help make up for the loss.

This is just my 20% anyway
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