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Remember the good days when you could go and buy a game in a jewel case, plop it in the ol' IDE drive and install it, play it, and that was it? ahh. I miss those days.
i really hope the user above me isn't another bot or witcher 3 topic starter.

here i was thinking more people are discussing fallouts again but NNNNNOOO... it's become another damn fucking witcher 3 topic. and it comes with bonus steamfans! boy howdy!
Post edited May 27, 2015 by dick1982
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Grazor: You can't redeem them on steam. But you could use the steam feature to add a "non steam" game, and so it would show up on your steam library, and you could still have the steam interface in game.
Yay thanks! All i wanted was to show my in-game FPS and I only have GOG game!
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TPR: Steam is not a friendly company. Not for paying customers, so called "gamers". Steam is not selling games - Steam is just renting them. Steam is forcing customers to use Steam Application which is spying on them. Customers can't run games without Steam Application. Even if "offline mode" will be executed then sooner or later Steam Application will connect with Steam servers to verify customer's right to use a RENTED game.
Okay, I understand your opinion, but I have to clear something up here. Any digital purchase you make is a rental. It's a rental in the fact that in order for you to get the game, you need to be able to connect to the internet, go to this website, and download it. If GOG should some day go under, just like Steam, your purchases are gone forever. Steam does not spy on you, it does not look into your computer to see what else you're doing, all it does is prevent piracy. The only files it keeps track of are the ones that you've gotten through it and anything that might be used to alter its function. And before you even say it, keeping statistics on your gaming rig is not spying. It's not private information and it does not do anything to harm you.

To add, Steam is not a company, it's an application.
Post edited June 15, 2015 by DoctorShazbot
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TPR: Steam is not a friendly company. Not for paying customers, so called "gamers". Steam is not selling games - Steam is just renting them. Steam is forcing customers to use Steam Application which is spying on them. Customers can't run games without Steam Application. Even if "offline mode" will be executed then sooner or later Steam Application will connect with Steam servers to verify customer's right to use a RENTED game.
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DoctorShazbot: Okay, I understand your opinion, but I have to clear something up here. Any digital purchase you make is a rental. It's a rental in the fact that in order for you to get the game, you need to be able to connect to the internet, go to this website, and download it. If GOG should some day go under, just like Steam, your purchases are gone forever.
Nope! GOG.com is offering offline installers. Customers can archive them and install later without need of Internet connection. If some day "Internet will go under" then we will have our offline installers. And Steam users will cry aloud...

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DoctorShazbot: Steam does not spy on you, it does not look into your computer to see what else you're doing, all it does is prevent piracy. The only files it keeps track of are the ones that you've gotten through it and anything that might be used to alter its function. And before you even say it, keeping statistics on your gaming rig is not spying. It's not private information and it does not do anything to harm you.
Hahaha! Steam application is gathering and sending information from user's computer (e.g. about programs in system's "Program Files" folder). That's far too much. And we can't be sure what informations are sent to external servers.

You have "nothing to hide"? Then why are you wearing pants/clothes while walking on a street? Every info can be used against you someday...

If you think it's against piracy then you naive like a child. Second hand "used games" are the most problematic thing for publishers - they can't make profit on it. That's why DRM was made for. Not against so called "piracy".
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Demanding that GoG provide steam keys is similar to going into Walmart and demanding that they accept your Kroger Plus card. They are direct competitors with similar services. They don't work together or overlap.
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Ugh, I've been screwed over. Found Witcher 2 on the Humble Bundle for really cheap and assumed I'd be getting a Steam key when I bought it (as with nearly every single other game I've bought from the site) but instead got a GOG key. 3$ wasted -.-
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DoctorShazbot: Okay, I understand your opinion, but I have to clear something up here. Any digital purchase you make is a rental. It's a rental in the fact that in order for you to get the game, you need to be able to connect to the internet, go to this website, and download it. If GOG should some day go under, just like Steam, your purchases are gone forever.
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TPR: Nope! GOG.com is offering offline installers. Customers can archive them and install later without need of Internet connection. If some day "Internet will go under" then we will have our offline installers. And Steam users will cry aloud...

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DoctorShazbot: Steam does not spy on you, it does not look into your computer to see what else you're doing, all it does is prevent piracy. The only files it keeps track of are the ones that you've gotten through it and anything that might be used to alter its function. And before you even say it, keeping statistics on your gaming rig is not spying. It's not private information and it does not do anything to harm you.
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TPR: Hahaha! Steam application is gathering and sending information from user's computer (e.g. about programs in system's "Program Files" folder). That's far too much. And we can't be sure what informations are sent to external servers.

You have "nothing to hide"? Then why are you wearing pants/clothes while walking on a street? Every info can be used against you someday...

If you think it's against piracy then you naive like a child. Second hand "used games" are the most problematic thing for publishers - they can't make profit on it. That's why DRM was made for. Not against so called "piracy".
Since this thread shows up as a top result on Google... I think this nut-jobbery deserves a reply.

1. Once Steam is set in Offline mode, it can stay that way indefinitely. You will not need to connect ever again to play the downloaded games.

2. Your whole argument is dependent on this crazy idea that the internet is just going to suddenly go down one day, which is utterly preposterous. In the case of a world war that causes such an event, you will have time to react and go into Offline mode. In the other case, a world-wide EMP, well, you're not going to be able to use your computer to play the games either, so GG.

3. You can create a backed up version of your Offline Steam to fall-back on as a just-in-case if you're such a ridiculously paranoid person who has lost grip on reality.

4. "we can't be sure what informations are sent to external servers." Umm, yes we can? Do you know nothing about computers? There are millions of people using Steam, and of those millions there are many people who actively record the data Steam sends, so we know for a fact exactly what is being sent, and it is completely harmless information that only serves to HELP provide us with a better ecosystem by knowing what kind of hardware the average person has. If you can't understand how that's helpful, than that is quite unfortunate. And they don't send information about what other programs you have installed in Program Files... Don't make things up.

5. If you own a game, there is nothing immoral about simply downloading a crack for the game so you can always play it in the case that servers go down. Many games are not on GOG and have true DRM that will require you to do this.
Steam is not true DRM, it is a gaming ecosystem, like what the consoles have, it helps unite the PC gaming community, it helps us interact and play with eachother, it really is a great thing.
Post edited December 13, 2015 by Kakkoii
There are legit legal methods to get free games on steam and other platforms, here is a vid that shows a legit legal way to get free games, and a link to the site it is about directly

g2a com/r/user-5662493c34fac

youtube com/watch?v=Rk3XYS1ORwI
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groze: If you buy them on GOG you can't get Steam keys out of it.
Another reason to hate Steam.

Great service does not mean not evil service.
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mehoff88: This is stupid, now I have 4 gaming services that I must use to play the games I play. Just let me use steam and nothing else. These companies think they can compete with steam and its just hilarious. You need to realize that this is just more and more of an inconvenience to us gamers. Talk about DRM free all you want, but last time I checked, I just click on a game to play it through steam. Not sure how thats any different here.
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Sufyan: This post caused me physical pain just reading it. Glycol and water looks very similar too.
DRM free is a big advantage. If GOG disappears you can still play your GOG games. If Steam disappears- you may not be able to play steam games and your investment will be lost. Who will compensate you?
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JACK.331: DRM free is a big advantage. If GOG disappears you can still play your GOG games. If Steam disappears- you may not be able to play steam games and your investment will be lost. Who will compensate you?
Exactly my reason to believe in GOG.com more than Steam. Lot of times however the developers not include server files to their games on GOG nowdays. LAN should be a basic option for every game that also support multiplayer.
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lupettohf: No you can't.
wasted my time registering here thought it was like Humblestore :(
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lupettohf: No you can't.
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phil.lavasoft: wasted my time registering here thought it was like Humblestore :(
haha i understand how you feel bro

I too, unknowingly bought Witcher 3(GOTY edition) from humble bundle, only to realise that it's a GOG key, not a steam key.
A $35 price, but nevertheless a happy accident in my opinion, and got me learning these aspects :
1. check before purchase
2. learnt about the existence of GOG


After discovering and exploring, i feel that GOG isn't bad at all.
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phil.lavasoft: wasted my time registering here thought it was like Humblestore :(
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boomzxc: haha i understand how you feel bro

I too, unknowingly bought Witcher 3(GOTY edition) from humble bundle, only to realise that it's a GOG key, not a steam key.
A $35 price, but nevertheless a happy accident in my opinion, and got me learning these aspects :
1. check before purchase
2. learnt about the existence of GOG

After discovering and exploring, i feel that GOG isn't bad at all.
There's nothing wrong with GOG it was more my ignorance, will give it a go :)