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Tooms: I wrote: "Your posts here are about about how everyone who likes the story is not clever (!) or naive, or must be a sexist."

You then wrote: "Oh, really? Who is this "everyone" then? Even PC Gamer says "a shallow world and story", so there is no such a thing everyone likes it, and everyone is entitled his/her opinion, if you like or not."

Obviously you misunderstood my post because I did not say "everyone likes it".

You then write: "Sorry, if you don't understand a post in your language and are making false assumptions for others' claims". Except that is exactly what you are doing here, as quoted above.

You write: "original twist (for only naive persons)"
Then later: "I never claimed that everyone who likes the story is not clever (!) or naive"

You are claiming that anyone who thinks the twist is original is naive. At least back up your own words.

I am not overprotective of the game. It's a decent game with an unusual story. I think your original post, with claims of misogyny and defending an abusive mother, was ridiculous and the fact that you originally posted it without spoiler tags shows little regard for others.
Because I don't see anything original here, maybe "interesting" but its only purpose is nothing more than a shock value.

I used only the word naive (esp. I said it for "wow" comments on YT), I never said that the one likes the story is not clever or must be sexist. I especially emhphasised "I don't say this one was purposeful" and used question marked on the title. It's too much to comprehend?

If you still insist on your unfounded accusations, I must be really right about naivety!

So I have nothing to say on this topic anymore, go on your childish attacks.
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amuleth: I especially emhphasised "I don't say this one was purposeful" and used question marked on the title. It's too much to comprehend?

If you still insist on your unfounded accusations, I must be really right about naivety!

So I have nothing to say on this topic anymore, go on your childish attacks.
Yes, it's too much to "comprehend", because that sentence doesn't make any sense in English. This is obviously going nowhere because you are speaking a different language, so I will just say that my response to you was in direct quotes from your words and you calling it "unfounded" is ridiculous.
Post edited June 11, 2014 by Tooms
As said before, this entire thread is a spoiler.... please stop here... although if you got this far, it's probably spoiled already.
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amuleth: An alcoholic mother doesn't equal a monster, but an abusive mother is yes. We don't have no more hint for her monstrosity than she's alcoholic.
Umm... maybe you missed being slapped away when you first encounter her in the morning, but that to me, taking away all the smokescreens of the child's imagination says abusive.

Look, I just finished the game tonight, actually, and that was the shocking moment for me. NOT that she was seen as a monster. After all, it was about a baby with a child's imagination. Anyone who is "not themselves" could be that role as someone who is drunk might be could easily be a monster at that point... kind or not, they are not themselves and so they are scary.

But that hit yelling "get away from me" was a cold bucket of water.... and really, THAT was what said everything to me.
Post edited June 13, 2014 by Megabyte
Before getting into any major philosophical discussions about gender roles, children, emotional maturation, and unpredictable, egotistical adults scarring their offspring for life with their good intentions - let me just ask one particularly important question here: PCGamer actually called a baby's perspective on a custodial case "a shallow world and story"?
You're believing the absence of information is important. All that matters is the mother wasn't fit to care for her child and the boy's father took care of him instead. You don't need to know any more. Story has been told.
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amuleth: snip
The OP should be ashamed of her monumental stupidity in thinking that misogyny exists in a place where there is none.

Just because a game, movie, music video or any source of entertainment depicts women in a negative manner, DOES NOT mean that they are sexist.

Women are not some innocent angels who can never do wrong. Women lie, cheat, steal, commit adultery and most of all get away with it many times.

Just because the woman in this game is an 'alcoholic female' like millions of females in real life, DOES NOT mean there is sexism here.
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amuleth: snip
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tort1234: The OP should be ashamed of her monumental stupidity in thinking that misogyny exists in a place where there is none.

Just because a game, movie, music video or any source of entertainment depicts women in a negative manner, DOES NOT mean that they are sexist.

Women are not some innocent angels who can never do wrong. Women lie, cheat, steal, commit adultery and most of all get away with it many times.

Just because the woman in this game is an 'alcoholic female' like millions of females in real life, DOES NOT mean there is sexism here.
Only moron here is you because you have lack of understanding what you read. Have you seen the "question" mark on the title?

And why do you open an old post? Show your white american superiority? Shame on you.