You are being very immature. I do not always agree with BKgaming, but I agree with him this time. If someone does not agree with you, counter with arguments. If you can't win the arguement, just admit that or agree to disagree. But this is just not how you respect other people. Shame on you.

What?! are u serious?! so a MMORPG is actually a service, not a game, because it doesn't have single player?! are you a joke?!

What multiplayer servers?! I just want LAN and direct TCP/IP connection. That is the problem, they have crippled/dumbed down the game intentionally just to keep their pathetic DRM in a pathetic game on a website that sells non-DRM games. And you call me 12yo? LOL.

Dude, this crap game saves even the settings on Triumph server, if the servers will shut down YOU WONT BE ABLE TO PLAY THE GAME AT ALL. On the other side I still play a lot of games, like AOE2 or SC1 on Gameranger (SC1 even has Battle.net, they didn't closed their servers). I play Heroes 3 on direct IP with a few friends all the time. Can I do that on AoW3? NO, LAN will require to be online (lol, how fucked up the Triumph can be?! to be online to play LAN :)) ) and no direct TCP/IP connection.



It doesn't end, as I said, I play ANY game I want on multiplayer, except the new DRM games like StarCraft 2 because has the same problem as this shit, DRM.

To play multi I can use custom servers, like SWAT 4, Dark Reign, Knights and Merchants and many more games

I can use official servers for games like StarCraft 1, WarCraft 3, Diablo 2

I can use Gamerangers for games like Age of Empires 1 and 2 and Age of Mythology and almost ANY game that has LAN, here is a list http://www.gameranger.com/games/

I can play on LAN for almost ANY GAME created since the first game that had multiplayer and did not had DRM or was not a MMO or online game.

I can play on direct TCP/IP, almost ANY game from 1995 to date.

But I can NOT do this on a game bought on the OFFICIAL NON-DRM GAME STORE because IT HAS DRM :)))) can you see the problem?!

I have nothing against online accounts, I hate only DRM and stupid people. If you don't know what is the difference between DRM and a online account just read the fricking topic from top to bottom... but I bet you wont admit that u don't :D, who likes to be hated? :D

If GOG adds DRM (and they have added) I see no reason to keep supporting them, I am free, I can but from wherever I want, games with DRM are everywhere, even without DRM, for example, Humble Bundle doesn't have DRM (and THEY DONT LIE about that and are cheaper), the only problem is that you have to install the lame Steam launcher. Anyway, you can download a crack for any game bought on Steam to remove the DRM, so Steam has less DRM than GOG right now :))) because there are no anti DRM cracks for GOG even though they only have 1 game with DRM yet :)))). Is it not ironic? :D. I remember when GOG was leaded by those guys in Cyprus and this website was about solidarity between gamers, after it was bought by Polish this website started to be about greed (not even profit, they had profit anyway. Is all about greed now), subtly adding new "features" like new games, DLC, regional prices, overpriced games and now DRM.

Anyway, I hope that GOG is not as retarded as they look right now, and I hope that they will improve. Lying and cheating is not the best way to make business with decent peoples (I don't try to say that I am one :D ).

Not gonna lie, the login screen was a really unpleasant surprise upon launching the game.
The reason I buy from GoG, whenever it's possible, is precisely because I don't want to deal with that kind of stuff.

I wish the warning about multiplayer restrictions was more visible. Like way more visible. 3 lines of cursive at the bottom of the page are not exactly jumping at you.

To activate it online you have to register it, you don't have to carry your desktop, you just have to write the serial number from your retail box on the battle.net web page, you don't even need a memory stick (I don't even own one :D ).

I know that I am rude, everybody knows that now :))

I won every argument. I didn't wanted to be disrespectful, I meant it!! read post 117 for more details :P.

Yes, but I need to connect the computer that will run the game to battle.net, at least the first time, right? This is not an oldstyle CD check, but an online activation, if I'm not mistaken (since you speak about battle.net). This means this computer needs to have an internet connection, at least for a short time. If I don't have internet at my apartment (which was the case for 6 month last year), I need to do it elsewhere. So I would have needed to carry the computer somewhere with an internet connection. Which was not an option either.
Was I mistaken about the necessity of an internet connection during register?

"Yes, I insulted you, but I do it all the time" is a quite poor excuse, frankly. It doesn't encourage people to take you seriously, either. Just saying.

Please read post 117, is about SC2 registration and about being rude :D. Anyway, the only guys who I would like to take me serious are the guys from GOG and to fix something, but we both know that that wont happen even if I would've write them a email in the most elegant manner. So why would I bother?

Um yes they are actually... yes it's game but since the game depends on there servers to function it's still considered a service that you limited to using until they shut down.
That the dang point. Just because they left out LAN and direct TCP/IP connection that doesn't equal them now having DRM. That is a design decision. What part of this is hard to follow? You can be mad about that but your blaming GOG and using the wrong words to describe this for what it actually is.

Not every game includes LAN or TCP/IP connection... I'm actually surprised by the games that still do today considering it not as popular as it was.
The settings issue is a BUG... and is fixed in the next patch. Geez you have no idea what even talking about. You know how many games don't work with GameRanger? A lot because not every game uses LAN. Why? Because not every developer includes it? What is this? A design choice? What is it not? DRM.
Um no you don't play any game... you play games with LAN that work with GameRanger/Tunngle or whatever or games with player hosted servers. This again is a design decision that is up the the publisher/developer of the game. Just because the developer leaves that out and chooses to use there own servers doesn't make it suddenly DRM.

I have plenty of games that have had there official servers go offline and that no longer work online because they have no LAN support so they don't work with services like GameRanger.

Stronghold 2 being one and maybe Stronghold Legends... I have the complete collection which is DRM free but can't play them online anymore.

At the end of the day even with GameRanger/Tunngle you still depended on a service to play these games online... these services could shut down someday too.
So your fine with online accounts as long as the game provides LAN and ways to play mulitplayer locally? What do we call this a design decision... I love how because a company does't provide you with feature it's now DRM.

If you hate stupid people, I feel bad for yourself... you entire argument reeks of stupidity.

Humble Bundle doesn't have DRM? What do you call steam? I've seen them sell games that only work with Steam which is DRM.

Steam has less DRM that GOG? Really? Now I know I'm arguing with a troll or an idiot.

They lied? I'm sorry they didn't tell you would need a online account and I'm sorry they didn't tell you the game didn't have LAN... oh wait... they did tell you that... my bad from the way you were acting I thought you didn't know before buying.

I find you hilarious honestly... whatever you must tell yourself to sleep at night buddy.

I have bought AoW 3 in GOG because I like GoG and I want games without DRM. I buy , download and I install it in all my computers to play in LAN/MP with my sons. But, after installing it, I have discovered that is not DRM free, I can't play in LAN. Like Steam. I would have to buy three games for playing with my 2 sons.

If AoW 3 were a single player game, no problem with that, because DRM only affects MP, but it's also a MP game, so, it's not what GoG says here:

"Forget activations or malicious DRM - every game on GOG.com is 100% DRM-free

You buy it. You own it. 100% DRM-free.DRM, also called copy protection, tries to control you and your games. We don’t believe in that - all of the games on GOG.com come without any DRM at all!"

Not 100% Free because an important part of the game is DRM.

I hope GoG doen't continue selling games with DRM, I have steam for that. GoG is different, or should be...

Regards

I love how this has boiled down to they included DRM because they left out a feature or did it in a way that you can't play online with one copy between multiple people... something nobody is legally allowed to do anyway because they agree to the TOS.

People always find something to complain about...

No, is a game, the server is a technical thing that does not interest a gamer. If you buy a MP3 player do you buy a bunch of circuits and buttons or a fucking MP3?

Dude, you are really fucking stupid, does they pay you or are you like this for free? they will add LAN and will require authentication on the server to be able to use it (which mean DRM). I said this a lot of times in this thread, just search and read WTF DOES DRM IS!! Start with the post 67. LAN not popular?!!?! are you kidding?! have you ever heard of Gameranger!?!

OMG, :O I just cant help myself... you are awkward... having to log in to the Triumph server which will check you serial number to be able to play LAN, is that a design choice or DRM!?!?!?! you have the exact list of games that work with Gameranger.

How can you make A BUG that will save your setting ONLINE? I bet this is a intentional bug, even though this may have been a mistake from a cheater you just expect to be cheated.

Cut the crap dude, we all know that the main "advantage" of a online game is the control of the developer over the client, when you connect to their server they will check your serial number and they WONT ALLOW you to connect if there is already a client connected on the server with the same serial number (even for LAN). THAT IS DRM. As long as AoW 2 had LAN and TCP/IP this game should've had too, especially as long as it is published on a non-DRM game shop.

Dude, you really are fucking stupid, I don't give a fuck about LAN or any other mode, the only thing I care about is that GOG published a game with DRM and they have LIED all their fans in the most deplorable way possible. You just keep repeating the same stuff over and over again and you make me do the same and I hate to repeat myself. Just read the fucking topic and you will understand WTF is DRM and why this game HAS DRM.

DAMN, YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID, just read what I've said over and over and over again and you may understand some day :O

Humble Bundle HAS NO DRM, you need internet just to install the games, you have to use the Steam Downloader as long as you cant download the games from the website the way you can on GOG.

LOL, I did not bought the game and I will never buy it, as I said, I don't care about this game, I only care about DRM on GOG, you should say that you are sorry because GOG did not told us that AoW 3 has DRM.

First you should try to find your brain :D, than the posts about what DRM is, than you can find me hilarious... if you still can :P.

Doing it in a way that you can not play online with one copy between multiple people, that is DRM, you are beginning to understand. Read post 74, very good post about how to prevent piracy and not only.

Hm....

The fact that you had to make an account was a bad surprise and i agree with people saying that it should be stated clearly on the game's page.

But, didn't Neverwinter Nights 1 + 2 require you to make an account in a similar way to play multiplayer in internet?

What's so special about AoW 3 asking an account for multiplayer....
(I haven't tried to play it as a guest so i'm not so sure about the side effects)

Am I trolling? :)) poor bugger, you're fucked up, don't you need internet to download games from GOG?!! if you need internet to download games from GOG does that mean that ALL GOG games have DRM?! damn, your stupid, thanks for confirm it over and over again. For Humble Bundle games you need internet to download them from Steam and than you can uninstall the Steam launcher and play the games without any DRM. LOL, I have just checked Humble Bundle, now you don't have to use Steam anymore, they have bought their own servers to host the games :)). Just check it out https://www.humblebundle.com/ .

So who is trolling, you poor bugger? ;)))

Okay then your just an idiot? Internet has nothing to do with it. The Steam client is DRM. The client controls everything you can do with your steam games, from playing online, to installing, to how many times you can install, it controls everything. Any game you buy that uses steam is essentially rented for as long as Steam is in business (outside of the few DRM free games one can find on steam which is rare).

Humble does usually provide a DRM free copy with a Steam copy when they can... however there are games they sell that only work with the steam client.

This is very different from GOG as is the reason us GOG users pick it over Steam.

Read this nice little article to get a better understanding:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/01/thought-do-we-own-our-steam-games/